The Amazing Spider-Man Reboot composer?

[BatLobster]

The comments about the TDKR samples....only Zimmer nuts could come up with such ridiculousness.

It's interesting, how different people are about things like this.

This score is going against the convention of what's in fashion today, and is being written off or dismissed, all based on some 30 second samples strung together.

TDKR, 30 second samples and they're all hailed as the greatest thing ever conceived of, and all of the things people dump on Horner for are seen as brilliant by Zimmer.

There's something about Zimmer that does that to people. Clearly I don't feel it, never have. I mean I love the Batman scores as much as the next but it's just so over-the-top and in many ways, hypocritical.

Lolok.

Personally, it took me a few days but now I'm pretty excited for Horner's score. I don't think it will replace Elfman's Spidey theme for me (much like Zimmer never replaced Elfman's "Batman"), but I'm coming around to what Horner is doing here. Watching that basketball clip brought it together for me. I think it's good that this film is going to go boldly against the grain with its score. It'll feel fresh, yet classic. That's kind of what you need for a reboot.

 

[Gianakin_]

Why? Embarrassing for whom?

I'm curious by this too? What's embarrassing?

F**k me, I meant encouraging. Better edit my post.

 

[Gianakin_]

I'm already preferring this over Elfman's score, even though, I really did like Elfman's score. I mean, I prefer Elfman's earlier work over what he did on the Spidey franchise, as his Spidey music felt to me like watered down versions of his previous stuff, but I'll never NOT get chills whenever those strings play over the opening logos/titles in those movies.

What I LOVE about this one is that it sounds like Horner's gotten a whole new life to his music that we haven't heard from him in over a decade. It would appear the film hit that sweet spot of inspiration that he's been in desperate need of for a while now, and I just love that this has its own sound and recognizable theme(s) that are so....fresh. Especially for James Horner, who I'm sure I've bashed on these boards at some point for being the worst of the self-plagiarizers in the big-name composer arena, because that's been my general opinion of him for years. This score is completely subverting my expectations.

I totally agree

I always got chills from Elfman's theme (in a good way), but Horner's score is just perfect for this movie

I never really liked Elfman's SM score, or Elfman in general. Thing is, I don't really like Horner either, but the TASM samples are really making me excited to hear the whole music and have gone as far as to make me more interested in the movie itself.

 

[Gianakin_]

The comments about the TDKR samples....only Zimmer nuts could come up with such ridiculousness.

Why can't you just accept that people love Zimmer's work on the Bat trilogy. Why do they have to be nuts and their love for the new tracks be ridiculous?

This score is going against the convention of what's in fashion today, and is being written off or dismissed, all based on some 30 second samples strung together.

Most people in this thread have praised the Horner samples.

TDKR, 30 second samples and they're all hailed as the greatest thing ever conceived of, and all of the things people dump on Horner for are seen as brilliant by Zimmer.

Every superhero board dubs the respective movie score as the best ever. It's the way of the hype and it's logical. People who are more interested in Spidey than Batman will obviously frequent the Spidey boards and will naturally like something Spidey related more. Ditto for Batman, Cap, Avengers. What's the problem here?

There's something about Zimmer that does that to people. Clearly I don't feel it, never have. I mean I love the Batman scores as much as the next but it's just so over-the-top and in many ways, hypocritical.

Oh, you love them, but find them so over-the-top and hypocritical. How does that work exactly?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

You don't like Elfman?

Elevator Man will have a heart attack when he reads that.

 

[Gianakin_]

I appreciate certain pieces of music he's written, but overall no. I certainly understand why many love him, though. Same goes for Horner.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I'm kinda the same way. I love some scores he's written (Batman, Batman Returns, SM1/SM2, Hulk, Red Dragon, Wolfman, and his portion for Kick-Ass).

Everything else is shades of grey for me, I either don't care for it or think it's okay.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I'm now officially hooked to the new score I have been listening the 10 min sampler over and over again, imagining in what scenes they might play in (I didn't read the names of the tracks to avoid all possible spoilers), I just... just... I just can't wait for the movie

 

[NL197]

Why can't you just accept that people love Zimmer's work on the Bat trilogy. Why do they have to be nuts and their love for the new tracks be ridiculous?

It goes to what I was saying about how people either must love and worship, or they're nothing but a troll for disagreeing or not even disagreeing but just not taking it to the same extreme. The comments are so over-the-top, about ''dying" and "I came" and all of it, it's just so silly. Not wrong. Silly. Too extreme.

Most people in this thread have praised the Horner samples.

At the least, people here aren't so ridiculous about it.

Every superhero board dubs the respective movie score as the best ever. It's the way of the hype and it's logical. People who are more interested in Spidey than Batman will obviously frequent the Spidey boards and will naturally like something Spidey related more. Ditto for Batman, Cap, Avengers. What's the problem here?

It's nothing to do with superheroes, it's everything to do with how people (here and elsewhere) take Zimmer worship to extremes. Batman has nothing to do with it.

Oh, you love them, but find them so over-the-top and hypocritical. How does that work exactly?

The scores I love, yes. Took a few years to appreciate them, especially after hearing the complete recordings (the albums are terrible) but it's not the music I find over the top and hypocritical, it's all the comments, praising Zimmer for doing the same things other composers have done but are condemned for. Zimmer gets praise because he's such a "God" to people. That's what's over the top as I've been saying all along.

I'd be more than embarrassed to say half the things I've read about Zimmer's music out loud, or typed on a board. "be the death of me", "I came", and many others all over 30 second samples of Zimmer's music. Not Elfman, Not Williams, not Horner, not anyone else. Something about Zimmer brings out the over-the-top comments and it's something that I just don't get and because I don't get it, or because my comments about things are more tempered, I'm considered a 'hater' or a 'troll' because I find such things to be too much and don't feel exactly the same way.

It's total bull, and considering a moderator sent me some 'infraction' about it, I know where his bias remains. Guess I'll be gone from this place soon. Good riddance, I'm sure many will say.

No hard feelings.

 

[Tony Stark]

Zimmer's batman music works for the films but it's not a great score, the music is average at best. I have to hear the entirety of Horner's Spider-man score to finally judge it.

I linked this on the other thread. The moment Hans Zimmer comes up with anything remotely close to this let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv8dl9jCn58

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Chaveliers De Sangreal is even better.

 

[BatLobster]

It goes to what I was saying about how people either must love and worship, or they're nothing but a troll for disagreeing or not even disagreeing but just not taking it to the same extreme. The comments are so over-the-top, about ''dying" and "I came" and all of it, it's just so silly. Not wrong. Silly. Too extreme.


At the least, people here aren't so ridiculous about it.


It's nothing to do with superheroes, it's everything to do with how people (here and elsewhere) take Zimmer worship to extremes. Batman has nothing to do with it.


The scores I love, yes. Took a few years to appreciate them, especially after hearing the complete recordings (the albums are terrible) but it's not the music I find over the top and hypocritical, it's all the comments, praising Zimmer for doing the same things other composers have done but are condemned for. Zimmer gets praise because he's such a "God" to people. That's what's over the top as I've been saying all along.

I'd be more than embarrassed to say half the things I've read about Zimmer's music out loud, or typed on a board. "be the death of me", "I came", and many others all over 30 second samples of Zimmer's music. Not Elfman, Not Williams, not Horner, not anyone else. Something about Zimmer brings out the over-the-top comments and it's something that I just don't get and because I don't get it, or because my comments about things are more tempered, I'm considered a 'hater' or a 'troll' because I find such things to be too much and don't feel exactly the same way.

It's total bull, and considering a moderator sent me some 'infraction' about it, I know where his bias remains. Guess I'll be gone from this place soon. Good riddance, I'm sure many will say.

No hard feelings.

Dude, you do realize that if you repeatedly come out and say "I have no problem with Zimmer, only his fans" and try to scold them for reveling in some intentionally over the top praise, a clash between you and some of his fans becomes inevitable, right? That's why people are going to keep thinking you're a troll. If you're stirring the pot and trying to get a reaction out of people, that is borderline trolling.

And reactions have a lot to do with superheroes on this particular message board.

Very sorry to all for further derailing the topic. I'm very excited for Horner's score. I think the modern feel of the film mixed with the classic feel of the score has potential to be a great mix.

 

[Gianakin_]

It goes to what I was saying about how people either must love and worship, or they're nothing but a troll for disagreeing or not even disagreeing but just not taking it to the same extreme. The comments are so over-the-top, about ''dying" and "I came" and all of it, it's just so silly. Not wrong. Silly. Too extreme.

I respect that and I've told you so in the TDKR Score thread. But why are calling them out on it? What are you hoping to accomplish? You seem a cool-minded person, so to try and... teach them, I guess, is something you should know is completely futile.

It's nothing to do with superheroes, it's everything to do with how people (here and elsewhere) take Zimmer worship to extremes. Batman has nothing to do with it.

It's exactly the same everywhere. Yes, the Batboard has more posters ergo more voices of praise, but the thing is, that stuff happens everywhere. Fanatic fans are eveywhere. Just 2 days ago I was called out by a poster here for hating a Horner track. It's the nature of the beast.

The scores I love, yes. Took a few years to appreciate them, especially after hearing the complete recordings (the albums are terrible) but it's not the music I find over the top and hypocritical, it's all the comments, praising Zimmer for doing the same things other composers have done but are condemned for. Zimmer gets praise because he's such a "God" to people. That's what's over the top as I've been saying all along.

I'd be more than embarrassed to say half the things I've read about Zimmer's music out loud, or typed on a board. "be the death of me", "I came", and many others all over 30 second samples of Zimmer's music. Not Elfman, Not Williams, not Horner, not anyone else. Something about Zimmer brings out the over-the-top comments and it's something that I just don't get and because I don't get it, or because my comments about things are more tempered, I'm considered a 'hater' or a 'troll' because I find such things to be too much and don't feel exactly the same way.

Due, you do realize there are forums and sites out there with hyperbolic statemements for EVERY composer? Williams? Are you kidding me, there are people out there that will eat you alive if you dare to criticize Williams. If anything, him and Elfman are really the untouchable Gods (so to speak).

The bottom line is, you can always express your like or dislike about an artist and/or his work on a respective thread. Yes, some idiot(s) will probably flame you and call you a troll, but then you have nothing to be blamed for. You can report them and be proud of it, too. But if you go to a thread and call people out for hyperbole or silliness, you do (even unintentionally) troll. You have no right and no obligation to correct their line of thought or anything close to that. Just let it go.
You hear the TDKR samples and do/don't like them? Go say it and be done with it, even argue as to why. But don't go there telling people they're silly for saying what they say. Fanboys are fanboys and reactions when they first see new footage or hear new stuff from one of their most (if not their most) anticipated movies are going to be less level-headed than most people's.

All that is my friendly advice to you, because I see your points and I agree with most of them. In my opinion, you're handling the issue wrong. So if you want to take my advice, even better, I'd be glad to talk and argue with you in the future.

 

[Gianakin_]

Zimmer's batman music works for the films but it's not a great score, the music is average at best. I have to hear the entirety of Horner's Spider-man score to finally judge it.

I linked this on the other thread. The moment Hans Zimmer comes up with anything remotely close to this let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv8dl9jCn58

It's funny because this score is the first one that made me dislike Horner when I studied his discography. It's just that I don't like his style and I think that Zimmer has come up with better, let alone remotely close, to this.

I know you're probably going to think of me as ignorant, if not outright call me that, but just my opinion.

So far, what he's doing for Spidey far surpasses ST:TWOK, imo.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I'm not a huge horner fanatic, to be honest. I enjoy some scores he's written extremely (the pagemaster, jumanji, aliens) but I don't really care for the rest. ASM sounds good, so let's hope I like it

 

[Gianakin_]

I like his work on Aliens and I love his work on the Mask of Zorro.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

You'll scoff, but i've never even seen Mask of Zorro. I should really check it out one day.

 

[Gianakin_]

It's a really great movie. One of the best 90s action/adventures (if not my absolute favorite). And Horner's theme is incredible. So is the rest of his music, for that matter. Of course, save for that obligatory ominous theme he's used in most of his movies intact.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

You'll scoff, but i've never even seen Mask of Zorro. I should really check it out one day.

me neither. though, I never really liked Zorro-anything tbh

 

[Gianakin_]

Zorro's a strange type of hero. He's actually one of the first superheroes if you think about it. Batman was even based on him partially. I haven't seen the tons of movies that have been out, but I've always meant to. Definitely check the Mask of Zorro (but avoid the sequel ifyou can, the LEgend of Zorro).

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was mask of zorro done by Martin Campbell? Or was it legend?

 

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