Reintroducing Superman: An Open Discussion

[GreenKToo]

At this point, I would take an origin, a requel, an established superman film, etc etc.

 

[Webhead2006]

I perfer to take a straight on new origin to show us things are different. Or even start up with an established supes but then bits and pieces of his origin(different then donner/etc....) are seen.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Why not a Godfather Part 2 like movie. Were they have past and present storylines. Past shows Superman's orgins, growing up on his home planet, then growing up as a teen in Smallville. Even show him traveling the world after high school is over.

In the present he is in his 3 year crime fighting. Lex Luthor is a mad scientists instead of corporate buisnessman. And has Braniac take down Superman.

 

[Webhead2006]

i rather have corp lex who is smart/genius inventer but i dont want him to just be a crazed scientist/petty criminal any more.

 

[Fresh Prince]

He can still be great as a mad scientists and not a petty criminal. Him making cure for diseases would garner him billinos of dollars. Why would he do petty crimes if he has tons of money. Besides he can be an inventor as a scientists. He would not be the Donnerverse Conman we seen for 4 Superman films.

 

[mjbull23]

I think that at this point it's almost a foregone conclusion that when the Superman Franchise gets reinvented, one of the primary characters that will undergo a severe makeover is Lex. We will see the scientific innovator, the corporate power player.

 

[Kal-El Fan]

Why not a Godfather Part 2 like movie. Were they have past and present storylines. Past shows Superman's orgins, growing up on his home planet, then growing up as a teen in Smallville. Even show him traveling the world after high school is over.

In the present he is in his 3 year crime fighting. Lex Luthor is a mad scientists instead of corporate buisnessman. And has Braniac take down Superman.

Not a bad idea. I prefer Lex as the scientist who builds Lexcorp from the money he makes off of his work, but as long as it isn't the "Donner" version, I'm cool with it.

 

[Webhead2006]

that is what i want corp lex.

 

[Fresh Prince]

I want mad sicentists Lex. We can get corporate Lex later.

 

[Octoberist]

why not have both? Did Grant Morrison do that with his Lex in All Star Superman?

 

[Wally West]

I like the idea of Luthor finding Kal-El's space ship, or the fortress and using genius level intellect to unlock some of that alien tech to start Lexcorp. So you have some mad scientist/some corporate elements to his character, and it ties into the story nicley.

 

[Octoberist]

Wally,

wow. that was my idea for my alternative Superman Returns storyline (tieing in the old movies with the new series), tranforming Lex into the genius/tycoon that we all know and love when Superman was away. Sweett.

 

[Octoberist]

Wally,

wow. that was my idea for my alternative Superman Returns storyline (tieing in the old movies with the new series), tranforming Lex into the genius/tycoon that we all know and love when Superman was away. Sweett.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Sadly they did not use that storyline for Superman Returns.

 

[Christmas]

And tying in Brainiac to Superman's return trip to Krypton. They also missed out on that.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea so many missed things they could have done in SR. As for your ideas guys of genius lex then become corp lex i could see that working if they have a good reason for it. I just dont want to see dam petty criminal/donner lex any more for film series. Since the lex character has grown alot since the 70s. I rather have more corp/political take this go around then foot around in silver age stuff again.

 

[MadVillainy]

There are no cons to doing an orgin story in old SPIDEY'S opinion.

I think everybody already knows how much I want a new orgin story so I'll forego rambling about it again.

exactly I dont see any downside to an origin story either

 

[stargazer]

And tying in Brainiac to Superman's return trip to Krypton. They also missed out on that.

I disagree. That could have been done in a sequel, easily.

Bryan Singer definitely planted some interesting seeds in SR for potentially great sequels, IMO.

 

[stargazer]

exactly I dont see any downside to an origin story either

I do. It's been done, and very well.

I LOVE STM, and highly doubt that they will surpass that origin with another origin movie. It isn't always about the new technology and especial FX, it's about the heart and the level of storytelling, which was done so well in STM, IMO.

 

[Venom'sDad]

exactly I dont see any downside to an origin story either

Exactly... there is none.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Yeah I do not wanna see crooked/conman Lex either anymore. That persona of him was straight up lame.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah I do not wanna see crooked/conman Lex either anymore. That persona of him was straight up lame.

Yep Yep

Exactly... there is none.

BOOM. I have yet to hear good reasoning it's not like Superman's origin has been shown on the bigscreen recently or in live action in general

I mean come on would you really tell someone who had no idea about Superman's origin to watch Smallville?

 

[Ita-KalEl]

So Spiderman is again on track while Superman is struggling to be considered a franchise...

 

[Wally West]

Wally,

wow. that was my idea for my alternative Superman Returns storyline (tieing in the old movies with the new series), tranforming Lex into the genius/tycoon that we all know and love when Superman was away. Sweett.

Yeah, they dropped the ball in a big way with Lex in SR. It should have been a no-brainer - They had an excuse for him to get off the hook in court, he knew about the fortress and it's technology, there was a five year gap for him to get Lexcorp off the ground and running...

They had a perfect opportunity to have that character evolve from the 70's/80's films into something that resembles who Lex is today and instead they chose to basically rehash old story-lines with another silly over-the-top real estate scheme.

 

[GreenKToo]

Yeah, they dropped the ball in a big way with Lex in SR. It should have been a no-brainer - They had an excuse for him to get off the hook in court, he knew about the fortress and it's technology, there was a five year gap for him to get Lexcorp off the ground and running...

They had a perfect opportunity to have that character evolve from the 70's/80's films into something that resembles who Lex is today and instead they chose to basically rehash old story-lines with another silly over-the-top real estate scheme.

Alot of us have had similar ideas.

I would still have had Lex steal the crystals, but it would have been to create new tech, not to create a land mass. He would have studied the crystals and learned their secrets and sold all kinds of new inventions and cures for diseases to the highest bidders, and then in turn formed Lex-corp from the proceeds.

Lex also would have created metallo from some of the tech he created.

The people of Metropolis would have forgotten all about Superman and replaced him with Lex as their hero. Lex of course would have cared nothing for the little people.
That's when Superman would have returned. He would have found a world that had truly moved on without him.