religion in society

[Sensi]

i think it is a bit of both nos-- first and second choice

 

[JLBats]

Yeah, it seems like on here atheists call christians stupid, and christians call atheiest evil and the muslims and jews get away with it all.

I think a lot of the antagonism between groups on here (whether it be liberals v. conservatives, atheists v. believers, etc.) comes down to the fact that they divide themselves with labels more than anything. Ultimately, the political debates break down into pissy arguments over the behaviour of specific politicians or cultural shifts that MAY have been caused by one political group. I.E. "Bill Clinton inhaled!" "Bush is slightly dumber than Kerry!"

I don't really see how said discussions should necessarily have anything to do with the people on these boards or our own beliefs. The debates become about politicians and celebrities CONNECTED to our beliefs. And at that point, the only thing that changes in the debate is your IQ, as it slowly spirals into a flaming post of insults and weak evidence.

 

[Kelly]

Did i say "Religion is the reson for eveyone dying"? ummmm no! I said it kills inocent people. Take that out and it would lower the percentage of deaths over the world and throughout history

you could say the same for nationalism, traditionalism vs. modernism, politics, and economics.....we don't live in eutopia....When you harvest wheat you have to pull up some other crap as well.....if you didn't harvest the wheat because you were afraid of the crap that comes up with it...you'd harvest nothing and starve.....

 

[Darthphere]

I think a lot of the antagonism between groups on here (whether it be liberals v. conservatives, atheists v. believers, etc.) comes down to the fact that they divide themselves with labels more than anything. Ultimately, the political debates break down into pissy arguments over the behaviour of specific politicians or cultural shifts that MAY have been caused by one political group. I.E. "Bill Clinton inhaled!" "Bush is slightly dumber than Kerry!"

I don't really see how said discussions should necessarily have anything to do with the people on these boards or our own beliefs. The debates become about politicians and celebrities CONNECTED to our beliefs. And at that point, the only thing that changes in the debate is your IQ, as it slowly spirals into a flaming post of insults and weak evidence.

I agree.

 

[sinewave]

So you suggest that without religion, rather than any sort of turn towards philosophy and rational political involvement, they would turn directly to drugs?

Perhaps accurate, but it paints a fairly bleak picture of humanity, doesn't it?

I always like to think of a George Meyer quote when thinking about religion in our culture and society:

it was just a joke, dude. i'd never advocate hardcore drugs in place of religion, silly. that's what booze and weed are for.

 

[JLBats]

it was just a joke, dude. i'd never advocate hardcore drugs in place of religion, silly. that's what booze and weed are for.

There will be none of this "joking" in a thread regarding politics or religion.

 

[Kelly]

I think a lot of the antagonism between groups on here (whether it be liberals v. conservatives, atheists v. believers, etc.) comes down to the fact that they divide themselves with labels more than anything. Ultimately, the political debates break down into pissy arguments over the behaviour of specific politicians or cultural shifts that MAY have been caused by one political group. I.E. "Bill Clinton inhaled!" "Bush is slightly dumber than Kerry!"

I don't really see how said discussions should necessarily have anything to do with the people on these boards or our own beliefs. The debates become about politicians and celebrities CONNECTED to our beliefs. And at that point, the only thing that changes in the debate is your IQ, as it slowly spirals into a flaming post of insults and weak evidence.

Wow......yeah.

 

[Leto Atrides]

Perhaps religion and society is inextricable. When organized religion was displaced during state-enforced atheism in the Soviet Union and China, people turned to personality cult worship instead, elevating Stalin and Mao into Gods. Many of the old guard still worship these dictators to this day.

This is exactly it. People will find someone to look up to, some doctrine to throw themselves behind, etc.

For example, look at the Enlightenment. Many of the promiment figures were not spiritual, whether that was becasue they were Deist (in which God has nothing to do with life anymore), they were atheist or agnostic, or they were simply not religious. However, they proceeded to faction off based on philosophy, methods of reasoning, scientific method.

It's part of human nature to get into groups that think they are more right than others.

 

[Calendar Man]

Religions=evil. Get rid of all of them.

 

[bored]

There will be none of this "joking" in a thread regarding politics or religion.

What the discussions become after four or five pages tend to be jokes in themselves, anyway.