Riots in Missouri - Part 2

[Thundercrack85]

Disenfranchising a people for... well, until the late 70's on a national level, and until now in some areas (like St. Louis) is going to have a serious effect.

 

[Howlett]

If it's not genetics or socioeconomics then what is the reason?

You can't fix what you don't understand.

and if black murderers are held accountable then why not cops who kill? Isn't that what people are asking for?

I don't know. No one does or we'd have fixed it by now.

Cops are a different animal altogether. Could you imagine going to work everyday wondering if you might be attacked and killed that day?

 

[Howlett]

Disenfranchising a people for... well, until the late 70's on a national level, and until now in some areas (like St. Louis) is going to have a serious effect.

So when can I expect the Native American riots?

 

[Asgard]

Oh, we want to play this game?

http://www.infowars.com/blacks-screamed-kill-the-white-people-before-brutal-murder-of-zemir-begic/

Well, you started the game with your bs "blacks are killing too many people" line which had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion of statistics of police killings so here you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/snapshot-hate-crime-america-numbers-n81521

Hate crimes against blacks remain far more numerous than hate crimes against the far larger population of whites.

While thats sad for that man and a terrible thing to have happened, thats an outlier. Black men are FAR more likely to receive that kind of treatment from whites.

 

[Howlett]

Well, you started the game with your bs "blacks are killing too many people" line which had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion of statistics of police killings so here you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/snapshot-hate-crime-america-numbers-n81521


While thats sad for that man and a terrible thing to have happened, thats an outlier. Black men are FAR more likely to receive that kind of treatment from whites.

Totally spurious graph. "hate crimes" are only ever labeled that when it's against a black person for whatever reason. Still doesn't take away from the other facts listed earlier.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I don't know. No one does or we'd have fixed it by now.

Cops are a different animal altogether. Could you imagine going to work everyday wondering if you might be attacked and killed that day?

I can. But then I live on a planet full of people.

 

[Thundercrack85]

So when can I expect the Native American riots?

This is such a ridiculous post, I'm not even sure how to reply to it.

 

[Howlett]

I can. But then I live on a planet full of people.

Then you're a liar. Cops live on the planet with the rest of us.

 

[Howlett]

This is such a ridiculous post, I'm not even sure how to reply to it.

It's difficult when things don't fit into your agenda.

 

[Dr. Evil]

African Americans have largely been marginalized and treated like crap for centuries. They have been treated a lot worse then other minorities, although the other minorities have not been immune to hate by White Americans themselves: the recent immigration issue, the treatment of Arab/Muslim Americans after 9-11 and the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II and the History of Native Americans, which has died in in recent decades (Washington Redskins issue not withstanding)

It's just that African Americans haven been treated a lot worse.

 

[Howlett]

African Americans have largely been marginalized and treated like crap for centuries. They have been treated a lot worse then other minorities, although the other minorities have not been immune to hate by White Americans themselves: the recent immigration issue, the treatment of Arab/Muslim Americans after 9-11 and the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II and the History of Native Americans, which has died in in recent decades (Washington Redskins issue not withstanding)

It's just that African Americans haven been treated a lot worse.

Prove this point please.

 

[Thundercrack85]

It's difficult when things don't fit into your agenda.

What agenda? You keep implying stuff without ever actually saying anything.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Prove this point please.

Read a ****ing history book?

 

[Howlett]

What agenda? You keep implying stuff without ever actually saying anything.

I've given facts and statistics, you have not.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Here in Phoenix Latino's get a whole lot of nightmarish **** happen to 'em. There's a Federal probe on the Sheriff's racist actions towards Latino's. I don't know about any Asian abuse by police forces, but I'm sure it's out there in some variety.

As an Asian American, I am sure that there are some, but outside of the Japanese American internment during World War II, there hasn't been much hate.

Probably has to do with this Asian Stereotype:

 

[Howlett]

Read a ****ing history book?

Black people were treated worse than Native Americans?

Learn to read.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Prove this point please.

As an Asian American, the only thing I've heard that has been bad to Asian Americans was the forced internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I've given facts and statistics, you have not.

All you have said in this thread is that black people kill more people than white people. That's it. No one (far as I can tell) has disputed that.

 

[Howlett]

All you have said in this thread is that black people kill more people than white people. That's it. No one (far as I can tell) has disputed that.

That's it?

That's the whole point

 

[Thundercrack85]

As an Asian American, the only thing I've heard that has been bad to Asian Americans was the forced internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.

Well, there was the Chinese Exclusion Act, and centuries of systematic racism.

But compared to what blacks had, that was fairly minor.

Two centuries of slavery, then a century of near slavery, and Jim Crow.

 

[Thundercrack85]

That's it?

That's the whole point

Yet you rather... ignorantly dismiss everything else people say. In a way that makes me suspect you're trying to get at something.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Well, there was the Chinese Exclusion Act, and centuries of systematic racism.

But compared to what blacks had, that was fairly minor.

Two centuries of slavery, then a century of near slavery, and Jim Crow.

Those things were minor. It's better with Asian Americans now, probably due to the way White America perceives Asian Americans (ie Nerds)

 

[Asgard]

Totally spurious graph. "hate crimes" are only ever labeled that when it's against a black person for whatever reason. Still doesn't take away from the other facts listed earlier.

Uh huh, and the 16.3 % of whites that experienced a hate crime are totally legit...

"Whatever reason" is the color of their skin.

 

[Howlett]

Yet you rather... ignorantly dismiss everything else people say. In a way that makes me suspect you're trying to get at something.

Presenting facts. What a monster I am.

 

[SuperJediHero]

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