Riots in Missouri - Part 2

[ShadowBoxer]

I kinda give Wilson the benefit of the doubt with the whole Mike Brown thing but what these cops did to Eric Garner was MURDER plain and simple and they should NOT be able to walk away free. That was beyond excessive and if you hear someone say "I can't Breathe" it's probably a good idea to stop choking the guy. But since he was a large black man he was obviously a threat to innocent white people right???

I am 6,2 about 220 pounds (not really fat) and obviously I am black. It really makes me made reading the comments on Facebook on NBC, CNN, Fox, Good Morning America about these issues and riots. I am not a hateful or racist person, I cool with and have friends of various races but the white people who post those ignorant comments of all blacks being thugs etc piss me off. I don't agree with looting or rioting but I don't mind people protesting peacefully. Some white people don't think racism exist because it doesn't happen to THEM but I wish they could spend a week or two being black.


Here are a few examples of racism I experienced in my 27 years on this earth.

1. Being followed around a store by employees because they think I am going to steal something.

2. Been denied jobs I was qualified for because of my skin color.

3. Having white woman clutch their purse when I enter an elevator with them.

4. Being pulled over by the cops for no reason other than driving a nice car in a "white" neighborhood".

5. Being mistreated at a restaurant because of racial stereotypes

6. Been accused of stealing in a store even though I have never stolen anything in my life.

If you are tired of hearing about racism, imagine how exhausting it is to have to life it everyday!

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, it's hard to prove murder. But there are a lot of charges he could have been indicted on. Like manslaughter, negligent homicide, reckless endangerment, etc.

 

[Kelly]

Well, it's hard to prove murder. But there are a lot of charges he could have been indicted on. Like manslaughter, negligent homicide, reckless endangerment, etc.

Homicide by misadventure, or reckless homicide could have been proven I think, but negligent homicide or manslaughter would be tough to prove in the case of a police officer. IMO,

The following is an example of a case law defining misadventure: Misadventure is "an accident by which injury results to another. When applied to homicide, misadventure is the act of a man who in the performance of a lawful act, without any intention to do harm, and after using proper precaution to prevent danger, unfortunately kills another person.” [Williamson v. State, 1887 Ohio Misc. LEXIS 84 (Ohio Misc. 1887)]

could have easily been proven.

 

[SuperT]

Howlett, you had some cold hard facts on your side but you went off the rail a bit. Every race/creed/culture has experienced racism and oppression.

Please tell me when caucasian people have EVER experienced oppression and racism.

I'll wait...

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Please tell me when caucasian people have EVER experienced oppression and racism.

I'll wait...

Well Jewish white people did but that's about it.

 

[Docker2.0]

As an Asian American, I am sure that there are some, but outside of the Japanese American internment during World War II, there hasn't been much hate.

Probably has to do with this Asian Stereotype:

Your Asian?! All this time I thought you were black and I couldn't tell you why.

I kinda give Wilson the benefit of the doubt with the whole Mike Brown thing but what these cops did to Eric Garner was MURDER plain and simple and they should NOT be able to walk away free. That was beyond excessive and if you hear someone say "I can't Breathe" it's probably a good idea to stop choking the guy. But since he was a large black man he was obviously a threat to innocent white people right???

I am 6,2 about 220 pounds (not really fat) and obviously I am black. It really makes me made reading the comments on Facebook on NBC, CNN, Fox, Good Morning America about these issues and riots. I am not a hateful or racist person, I cool with and have friends of various races but the white people who post those ignorant comments of all blacks being thugs etc piss me off. I don't agree with looting or rioting but I don't mind people protesting peacefully. Some white people don't think racism exist because it doesn't happen to THEM but I wish they could spend a week or two being black.


Here are a few examples of racism I experienced in my 27 years on this earth.

1. Being followed around a store by employees because they think I am going to steal something.

2. Been denied jobs I was qualified for because of my skin color.

3. Having white woman clutch their purse when I enter an elevator with them.

4. Being pulled over by the cops for no reason other than driving a nice car in a "white" neighborhood".

5. Being mistreated at a restaurant because of racial stereotypes

6. Been accused of stealing in a store even though I have never stolen anything in my life.

If you are tired of hearing about racism, imagine how exhausting it is to have to life it everyday!

"It's all in your head. Racism doesn't exist any more. After all, we have a black President now. The only reason it exist is because blacks won't let it go. Slavery happened 400 years ago, I never owned any slaves so I'm not racist."


Let me guess, that's what you've been hearing right? That's what I hear all the time and it kills me because I've seen what you go through but yet people say minorities, particularly blacks and latinos, are just whiners who won't let go of the past.

 

[The Shape]

Please tell me when caucasian people have EVER experienced oppression and racism.

I'll wait...

Caucasian people from various countries have experienced oppression throughout history, but that's irrelevant now.

As for racism, if you truly believe that there aren't MANY black people in this country who are racist towards whites and have acted as such, you're ****ing nuts.

 

[Docker2.0]

Caucasian people from various countries have experienced oppression throughout history, but that's irrelevant now.

As for racism, if you truly believe that there aren't MANY black people in this country who are racist towards whites and have acted as such, you're ****ing nuts.

All races have experienced racism, including whites. My problem is when people say it doesn't exist or that blacks are just whiners when they have never walked a day in a black guy's shoes. The same can be said for a black person who says a white person can't say the n word but they say it to each other all the time, in every rap song and in every movie. I've heard white dudes call each other the n word as well as asians.

 

[SuperT]

My problem is when people say it doesn't exist or that blacks are just whiners when they have never walked a day in a black guy's shoes.

Also white peoples uncanny ability to ALWAYS find a way to insert themselves into conversations amongst minorities and share with them their perceived experiences of racism as if it's even on the same level, let alone hemisphere.

The same can be said for a black person who says a white person can't say the n word but they say it to each other all the time, in every rap song and in every movie. I've heard white dudes call each other the n word as well as asians.

No. Miss me with this one - why are white people so obsessed with wanting to use the N-word or call us the N-word? It's not okay for white, asian, or latino people to use it either. Why can't you simply just suck it up and not use it? If we say something is offensive, why is it always a white persons job to fight us tooth and nail to tell us it's not?

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Your Asian?! All this time I thought you were black and I couldn't tell you why.


"It's all in your head. Racism doesn't exist any more. After all, we have a black President now. The only reason it exist is because blacks won't let it go. Slavery happened 400 years ago, I never owned any slaves so I'm not racist."


Let me guess, that's what you've been hearing right? That's what I hear all the time and it kills me because I've seen what you go through but yet people say minorities, particularly blacks and latinos, are just whiners who won't let go of the past.

Pretty much what you said!

 

[Docker2.0]

Also white peoples uncanny ability to ALWAYS find a way to insert themselves into conversations amongst minorities and share with them their perceived experiences of racism as if it's even on the same level, let alone hemisphere.



No. Miss me with this one - why are white people so obsessed with wanting to use the N-word or call us the N-word? It's not okay for white, asian, or latino people to use it either. Why can't you simply just suck it up and not use it? If we say something is offensive, why is it always a white persons job to fight us tooth and nail to tell us it's not?

I agree no one should use it but I've heard with my own two ears blacks call white people the n word and as soon as that white person says it back to them, it's a race thing. Rappers have REALLY glorified that word to where now it's cool to use it when it shouldn't be. I don't say it at all. I actually think it should be considered a curse word. No one should use it.


PS- I can't be the only one thinking this but man do you come off angry. If you were Bruce Banner, you'd stay in Hulk mode.

 

[summerteeth]

Please tell me when caucasian people have EVER experienced oppression and racism.

I'll wait...

Well Jewish white people did but that's about it.

Are you two serious?

 

[Kelly]

Why can't you simply just suck it up and not use it? If we say something is offensive, why is it always a white persons job to fight us tooth and nail to tell us it's not?

Hmmm...in my 23 years of teaching, the problem has been my black students using it excessively, not my other students of different races. Most of the discussions have been over them using it, some (other black students) see no problem with them using it, but don't like other races to use it, and others don't want it used at all.

As for myself, I would much rather no one use it, but I know that it is a discussion that will continue to happen for years to come I'm sure.

 

[Docker2.0]

Are you two serious?

They mean as far as slavery or genocide like blacks and American Indians faced. They haven't but the Jews did face the Holocaust. That is the closest thing whites have come close to facing as far as what's being talked about.

 

[Feenix]

Here are a few examples of racism I experienced in my 27 years on this earth.

1. Being followed around a store by employees because they think I am going to steal something.

2. Been denied jobs I was qualified for because of my skin color.

3. Having white woman clutch their purse when I enter an elevator with them.

4. Being pulled over by the cops for no reason other than driving a nice car in a "white" neighborhood".

5. Being mistreated at a restaurant because of racial stereotypes

6. Been accused of stealing in a store even though I have never stolen anything in my life.

If you are tired of hearing about racism, imagine how exhausting it is to have to life it everyday!

How exactly do you know that you were passed up for a job because you're black?

Maybe you just weren't as qualified as the person who got hired.

People who look for racism will find it, whether or not it really exists.

 

[Docker2.0]

How exactly do you know that you were passed up for a job because you're black?

Maybe you just weren't as qualified as the person who got hired.

People who look for racism will find it, whether or not it really exists.

So...........all the points he made, that's the only one you could combat? Oooooookkkkkkkkkkkkk!

 

[SuperT]

PS- I can't be the only one thinking this but man do you come off angry. If you were Bruce Banner, you'd stay in Hulk mode.

Not angry, just frustrated beyond belief that we still have to have these conversations yet people still stay so clueless.

 

[Feenix]

So...........all the points he made, that's the only one you could combat? Oooooookkkkkkkkkkkkk!

No, I could say more about the other ones, but I chose not to because I don't want to get into a debate about it.

 

[Docker2.0]

No, I could say more about the other ones, but I chose not to because I don't want to get into a debate about it.

But you did.

 

[RockSP]

These protests are getting ridiculous.

I know, right? How dare people protest being abused & slaughtered by "authority" figures!

 

[Kelly]

They mean as far as slavery or genocide like blacks and American Indians faced. They haven't but the Jews did face the Holocaust. That is the closest thing whites have come close to facing as far as what's being talked about.

There are a few more than that...

Japanese war crimes WWII
Soviet Famine
Armenian
Cambodian
Zunghar
Circassian
Cossack
Utashe

All of which at their lowest numbers were more than 40,000...

The Balkans alone have seen more than 6 different genocides over the centuries...

I don't really feel like looking up any more.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Perhaps I missing the point of the current conversation, so forgive me. But isn't the point not that all races haven't faced persecution, but that the US has had a long and systemic issue when it comes to racism?

 

[regwec]

A description of "whites" implying one group is fairly ridiculous, but you don't have to look too hard into history to find acts of brutal oppression against groups of white people. Since, broadly speaking, the west has however won, it is difficult to fit western peoples into the fashionable hierarchy of victimhood.

I can't say I have ever suffered racial oppression, but I hope that doesn't make me less sensitive to it, or less determined to oppose it.

 

[Docker2.0]

A description of "whites" implying one group is fairly ridiculous, but you don't have to look too hard into history to find acts of brutal oppression against groups of white people. Since, broadly speaking, the west has however won, it is difficult to fit western peoples into the fashionable hierarchy of victimhood.

I can't say I have ever suffered racial oppression, but I hope that doesn't make me less sensitive to it, or less determined to oppose it.

Quite possibly one of the best post here.

 

[SuperJediHero]

1. Being followed around a store by employees because they think I am going to steal something.

2. Been denied jobs I was qualified for because of my skin color.

3. Having white woman clutch their purse when I enter an elevator with them.

4. Being pulled over by the cops for no reason other than driving a nice car in a "white" neighborhood".

5. Being mistreated at a restaurant because of racial stereotypes

6. Been accused of stealing in a store even though I have never stolen anything in my life.

If you are tired of hearing about racism, imagine how exhausting it is to have to life it everyday!

BUT

1) Would you still be followed, if you are a very rich black man, put on a very classy suit like you are a CEO or something?

2) How do you know it's because of skin color and not qualification?

3) Do they usually not clutch their purses the same when they see another rude/immature white guy or crazy, wild Asian like he ain't a smart nerd?

4) I am a minority, and has not been pulled over for a LONG time. There was only 1 time, when I got pulled over for being tired and I argued with the officer for "Reckless driving" but tireness didn't cause me drive reckless at all. it was the ONLY time I felt unfair. Other times, it was fair.

5) As a minority, felt that this may be true for some of the servers, or anyone, but most of the people are nice and didn't mistreat. Those who treat me wrong was certainly not a majority by far.

The MAJORITY is what you want to look at, not to make examples of very few people that do bad and think the disrespect is SO BAD. That's NOT how you want to look at it! That itself is generalization.

6) I have been accused a lot of times too, even by other minorities a lot, but I know enough to know that it's not just the Whites.