Robert Pattinson IS The Batman

[Zorro]

Sometimes i wonder what WB were doing with this film. Scenes like this shouldn't of been deleted. Val delivers in this scene. yes the massive Bat is abit fantastical but this scene was key to what Bruce and Batman's duality was about.

That and opening at Arkham feels like a different and more interesting movie. Kilmer got screwed in the final product

 

[Invader Joker]

I'm very curious to see what Conroy will do in live action. We'll see in two weeks, but I think he has the potential there to do something really good if he was directed correctly, he knows the character better than any other live action Batman.
Heck, he may end up being the best live action performance as Batman, who knows. Can't wait.

Let’s pretend I had the know-how and time to post a compilation GIF of all the absurd faces Bale made under that cowl.

He by far had the worst mouth expressions out of any live-action Batman, by a wide margin. Pete Holme’s parody of him is so pinpoint accurate I can’t not laugh to myself anytime I watch Bale in those sequels now.

I'm not denying that Bale had some stupid expressions but I feel like most of those expressions were simply a result of the cowl not letting him breathe so he had to breathe through his mouth constantly. I think you can notice it by the mere fact that he didn't make those expressions in Batman begins.

Keaton's on the other hand were 100% intentional.

And I'm not here to say that Bale's Batman was flawless, he wasn't, but I just feel he represented the character and disappeared into it better than Keaton did without relying only on the costume design and cinematography. Again,I believed he was another creature in that interrogation scene, I never got that sense with keaton.

 

[spideyfan77]

As someone that didn't grow up on Keaton, to be quite honest I find him to be the most overrated Batman. Even moreso than Affeck, because at least with Affleck it's a bit of a popular opinion to say he could've been better on a few places.

I mean, I like certain things about his portrayal (such as the way he said "It's just something that I have to do) but man do I think it doesn't hold up at all to scrutiny, his Batman was 100% reliant on cinematography.

Bale I think will hold up because I completely, 100% believe him when he's under the cowl. Does he have ridiculous lines sometimes? Is his voice garbage? Yes. But in scenes like the Flass one, in scene like the Joker interrogation, he still disappears into the role, any shred of how he performs Batman outside the mask is completely gone and I completely believe his anger, I believe his frustration, I believe he's now transformed into this other creature. The body language he exhibited in the Joker interrogation scene, I mean that was brilliant and made me believe him as Batman. That was never the case with Keaton, his goofy faces and the way he spoke always gave him away. And I still don't buy him as Bruce Wayne, his look and the "Let's get nuts scene" summarizes why. He did fine, but I still can't help but look at other actors from that time and think "What would've been?", that's not the case with Bale, Bale was undeniably the best choice for the part when he got cast, Keaton was just a weird one for the sake of weird.

Affleck I'm really, really torn on because I remember really liking his portrayal when BvS came out, but upon rewatching I can see how certain things could've been better and again, he was completely reliant on cinematography for Batman, and I can't really say I ever saw him play Batman with how altered his voice was.

Conroy still remains the best Batman by far to be honest. Yes he's a voice actor, but it's his performance that made me, in the middle of the 2010s, become a fan of Batman. If he still holds that kind of influence after voicing the character for 20 years, then I honestly can't deny he's the best Batman. I think that no matter what year you first hear Conroy's portrayal of Batman, he still has a sort of influence and impact none of the other ones have.

Pattinson has potential. But I hope he does his own thing and not just rehash Keaton like many want him to do here. I honestly think Pattinson has way more in common with Bale than he does Keaton, but I still don't want him to rehash Bale either. Let him come up with something unique but still distinctly Batman. And honestly, I don't believe in that whole "Well Bruce Wayne is the most important part of the performance", it is important, but so is Batman, and I'm glad that whenever Pattinson talks Batman he talks about how to approach it inside the suit.

Strongly disagree. I think bale is the most overrated batman ever. The movies are awesome and joker overshadows him so badly in dark knight that its kind of embarrassing. Bale also did not have a good batsuit (maybe begins but dark knight and rises are just bad). His voice is just brutal. I also dont like his characterization. Made him way dumber than he his and just a brute.

We do agree that conroy is by far the best though. I think the best live action batman is probably affleck and then keaton is second.

I believe that pattinson will be the best live action but still wont beat conroy.

 

[Invader Joker]

I think that Pattinson, more than anything else, needs to nail the Batman voice. If he nails the Batman voice and the physical aspect of the character, he'll be well on his way to be the best Batman to date.

 

[Jekecy]

I'm not denying that Bale had some stupid expressions but I feel like most of those expressions were simply a result of the cowl not letting him breathe so he had to breathe through his mouth constantly. I think you can notice it by the mere fact that he didn't make those expressions in Batman begins.

Bale also had a much different bat-voice in BB. I just don’t think he was able to recapture his original performance, and that resulted in weird decisions in an attempt to match it.

Keaton's on the other hand were 100% intentional.

Feel free to cite what these “faces” are. I genuinely have no idea what you could be referring to. Keaton set the standard for the stoic expression in live-action, so it would be weird to throw criticism that he was doing otherwise.

 

[Invader Joker]

Bale also had a much different bat-voice in BB. I just don’t think he was able to recapture his original performance, and that resulted in weird decisions in an attempt to match it.


Feel free to cite what these “faces” are. I genuinely have no idea what you could be referring to. Keaton set the standard for the stoic expression in live-action, so it would be weird to throw criticism that he was doing otherwise.

I literally just posted this, these were 100% intentional.

 

[Captain Tired]

Literally the first time I'd ever seen those expressions referred to as 'goofy'.

 

[Jekecy]

The expressions that reinforced Batman’s image as possibly being sadistic/psychotic?

Yeah, no… not even remotely a bad decision at all. And certainly should not be compared to Bale’s doofy expressions.

Someone should make a list of your bizarre hot-takes.

 

[Invader Joker]

The expressions that reinforced Batman’s image as possibly being sadistic/psychotic?

Yeah, no… not even remotely a bad decision at all. And certainly should not be compared to Bale’s doofy expressions.

Someone should make a list of your bizarre hot-takes.

I don't think it's a bizarre take to say that Batman shouldn't be smiling like a psychopath while he's putting a bomb on a thug.

I just don't like Keaton's Batman as a whole. I like element and scenes of him, but he just feels wrong in the way that I know the character, he's just too far away from Bruce Wayne in any other version of him, and that's fine, it's a valid take, but it feels wrong to me and I dislike it. That scene alone is worse than anything Bale's.

 

[Zorro]

Christian Bale is very overrated as Batman/Bruce as is the Nolan's trilogy. Bale was great but just not my favorite and the films were awesome but as batman movies they aren't the be all end all cbm.

I do still have Dark Knight at the top of my favorite batman films but B'89 is still actually #1

 

[Daywalker89]

Let’s pretend I had the know-how and time to post a compilation GIF of all the absurd faces Bale made under that cowl.

He by far had the worst mouth expressions out of any live-action Batman, by a wide margin. Pete Holme’s parody of him is so pinpoint accurate I can’t not laugh to myself anytime I watch Bale in those sequels now.

Seriously though the suit looked utter crap in that scene. Particularly the cowl . They couldn't even drap the cape off his shoulders properly. I can't stand the dark knight suit in general though .

 

[Boom]

I don't think it's a bizarre take to say that Batman shouldn't be smiling like a psychopath while he's putting a bomb on a thug.

I just don't like Keaton's Batman as a whole. I like element and scenes of him, but he just feels wrong in the way that I know the character, he's just too far away from Bruce Wayne in any other version of him, and that's fine, it's a valid take, but it feels wrong to me and I dislike it. That scene alone is worse than anything Bale's.

I raise you.

 

[Zorro]

The dark knight suit has grown on me over time..but not enough

 

[Invader Joker]

I raise you.

I'll take that any day over Keaton's gleeful smile as he murders people or the weird reaction he had when Catwoman licked his face.

To be honest I've found every live action Batman so far to be underwhelming, so when I say that Bale was the best, to me that's not saying much because even then he was full of flaws.

 

[Mani-Man]

I don't think it's a bizarre take to say that Batman shouldn't be smiling like a psychopath while he's putting a bomb on a thug.

I just don't like Keaton's Batman as a whole. I like element and scenes of him, but he just feels wrong in the way that I know the character, he's just too far away from Bruce Wayne in any other version of him, and that's fine, it's a valid take, but it feels wrong to me and I dislike it. That scene alone is worse than anything Bale's.

Yeah thats my thing too.
I love the visuals and a few scenes...but overall Keatons batman is so far from my "perfect" batman.
He way too often felt like a psychopath...which makes a bit sense because no sane person dresses up as a bat...but we arent talking about real world things here.
I will always cherish the keaton movies for its tone and visuals, but god damn Keaton as bruce or batman is just messed up character wise.

Christian Bale is very overrated as Batman/Bruce as is the Nolan's trilogy. Bale was great but just not my favorite and the films were awesome but as batman movies they aren't the be all end all cbm.

I do still have Dark Knight at the top of my favorite batman films but B'89 is still actually #1

Yes, i think its not Bale that carries the trilogy at all.
His Bruce and batman feel rather flat to me.
He was okay but nothing really that elevated the movies.
To me there hasnt been the "perfect" Batman/bruce yet, they all had their moments but thats it.
Something is missing with every one of them.

 

[Invader Joker]

I actually think that may be part of the reason as to why a lot of people are either very open minded or very excited about Robert saying "He'll be the best one yet" even though there have been a lot of Batmen already.

To some extent, it kinda feels like the only way to go after everything they've done in previous films is to finally give a more comic book accurate portrayal of Batman that's full of complexities and so on. We're still waiting for that "perfect Batman" that just feels like "Perfect casting, perfect portrayal", in much the same way Conroy feels like so in voice acting.

We've gotten hints of it through the many dfferent actors that have played him but they all lack something, so it kinda feels like that's the only way left to go.

 

[Daywalker89]

The dark knight suit has grown on me over time..but not enough

Yep, I mean come on . All they had to do was drap the cape over his right shoulder and as mentioned the cowl doesn't match up with bale's face at all. He still gave a solid performance i guess . Batman Begins was the better performance and in some ways the better " Batman " film

 

[Eddie Dean]

The top is fine, but the nose and mouth opening are terrible and contort Bale's face in awful ways.

 

[Whatupman]

I'll take that any day over Keaton's gleeful smile as he murders people or the weird reaction he had when Catwoman licked his face.

Haha, what? Now I'm really curious, in your opinion, how should a person react when they get their face licked?

 

[Zorro]

The actors are shadowed by the material given and one reason why I think Pattinson will be fantastic is because Matt Reeves is a good film maker that is embracing the mythology and source material without going the campy route or too dark & gritty.

One thing this film already has going for it that stands out nicely is the detective element. One thing that has always lacked in live action is Batman being a super sherlock holmes.

The rumor about the story being similar to Long Halloween is perfect imo for a bat film than another origin or action spectacle(although that's a nice element). This all feels different for a batman movie but also feels so right already as fans of the bat mythology

 

[Boom]

Just make him interesting when he's in the cowl. That's all I ask.

 

[Jekecy]

Haha, what? Now I'm really curious, in your opinion, how should a person react when they get their face licked?

Audibly yell in disgust, because COOTIES. Obviously.

Totally not erotic at all. Nope.

 

[Zorro]

I would have reacted the same as batman did there. Is that mysterious cat lady wants to get kinky. So be it

 

[Eddie Dean]

Ewwww... I would hate to be pinned downed by 1992 Michelle Pfeiffer wearing skin tight latex as she licks me... haha, so gross! Anything but that! Please!

 

[Zorro]

Yeah because 1992 Pfeiffer was a a bad looker