Robin Begins

[Bruce Banner]

If they ever decide to this, they'll have to do it in a different continuity as Begins.

Why?

 

[S_H_F_4839]

Here's how you do Robin in a movie...

1. You can use the Dick Grayson name if you want, and you can even use to the dead circus parents part, but you need to combine it with Tim Drake. Say his parents were killed when he was around the same age as Bruce was when his did, and he was shipped off to foster homes. He hears about the Batman, and starts to develop detective skills as time goes by. When he gets to be 16/17 he finally realizes who Batman really is, and seeks him out. There you go for the origin. That also fixes his age problem. And because he was a circuis performer, he was already in good shape, and because he's been obbsessed with finding and joining Batman since he was 12, he's probably trained himself how to fight and survive quite a bit.

2. Use the Red Robin costume from Kingdom Come, with darker tones and no yellow. That solves your costume issue, and would disguise his age to criminals.

maybe throw in a cool escape sequence from the foster home and him be brought back by the cops.

 

[DawnWarrior]

maybe throw in a cool escape sequence from the foster home and him be brought back by the cops.

Yeah, and then Batman can come and rescue him from the dirty cops and mow down all the cop cars with the Batmobile, laughing maniacally as the patrols erupt in flames and screaming I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN!! OMG...

Seriously, I don't see the point of combining Dick's origin with Tim's. Is it a 'Best of both worlds' thing? Or a 'make the movies look as much like the comics as possible' thing? Remember, when the writers created Tim, they connected him with Dick's origin so that we would accept him as the new Robin over Jason Todd.

 

[UndyingPhoenix]

If we do have a Robin..thats sweet..I like Robin.. Though, to be honest..I really want to see Jason Todd get beat the hell up by the Joker and killed in a Nolan movie <.<..I really do..Im sure it'd be sweet as balls.

And if for some reason he decides to do a time skip in the third or fourth movie..and mention to Jason, "Im not trying to compare you to Dick, he was his own Robin, just as you are..but what you need to do is gain more control over yourself." to establish that Dick was Robin prior to Jason..then..Im fine with that. <.<..I just wanna see him die in a movie.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

robin should stay as far away from batman as possible. the only reason he is still aorund is because of fan backlash.

 

[Peyton Westlake]

The whole idea, the suspension from Batman really is like re-writing the character. To quote Lex Luthor from Superman Returns , "WRONG!" .

 

[Doom Patrol]

I think dick would have a better shot at the big screen as nightwing instead of robin. robin's kinda corny

 

[The Marvel]

Or better yet just call him KNIGHTWING.
I just like the idea of him and Batman being The Dark Knight and his sidekick Named Knightwing.

 

[Booznian]

I think during the period of Shadow of the Bat (Batman 3), they should report that not only Batman but there is another vigalante in the streets, capturing criminals, and mob affiliates. Batman comes across Nightwing, an 18 year old whos parents were murdered, and Batman tells him to stay out of his business, and stop playing dress up. Nightwing follows him, and Batman gets captured (???), Nightwing rescues him, and takes him to his place. They talk and Nightwing explains his story, how his parents were murdered, and asks Batman if he could help him battle crime in gotham. Batman agrees so now..Batman and Nightwing!


Good story!?

 

[Doom Patrol]

Or better yet just call him KNIGHTWING.
I just like the idea of him and Batman being The Dark Knight and his sidekick Named Knightwing.

that is kinda a good idea

 

[wellsy]

Or better yet just call him KNIGHTWING.
I just like the idea of him and Batman being The Dark Knight and his sidekick Named Knightwing.

Thats a pretty good idea, actually.

 

[DawnWarrior]

This all sounds a lot like Batman Forever to me.

Yeah, but in my version, the stuff they're arguing about actually makes sense.

 

[Apollo]

I say drop the Dick name and just call him Richard or Rich

 

[Darknightnomis]

How about just a Nightwing Movie where he deal with being a "superhero" in the shadow of the Batman and going on his on in BloodHaven.

I already know who I would cast as Dick Grayson/Nightwing.

Milo Ventimiglia would be perfect in this part (and I think he mentioned he would be interested in doing something about Robin in an interview recently).

And if you've seen Heroes these past 2 weeks he's buff up a lot. It wouldn't even be neccessary to show Bruce/ Batman just have him communicated by phone or some obscure referneces to his "mentor".

 

[moguy]

For all those Robin haters, people should realize that Robin's been around for 67 out of the 68 years Batman's been in print.

So like it or not, he is a huge part of the Batman mythos.

I do agree that it would be difficult to put him in a film in a believable and serious manner. But I still do think it is possible.

Also, Dick Grayson is supposed to already be a supreme athelete when he meets Batman. That's how the comics have always explained his accelerated training.

In fact many times (throughout many stories) he's referred to as superior, even to Batman, in athletic ability (not strength, but agility, speed, and dexterity).

 

[Wally West]

That's not exactly true. All Nolan said was that Robin shouldn't be introduced for a couple films, and that he doens't think he'll be making Batman movies long enough for that to happen. In other words, he only wants to make a few, and that's not enough time to bring Robin in.

Bale has stated "as soon as you bring Robin in, it becomes campy" So don't count on seeing him in a film with Robin. He seems very anti-crossover...no jla, no robin, it's gotta be all about batman, or nothing with him.

 

[RakuMon]

The Mask: (Subcategory of costume.) Sure, Clark Kent gets by with a pair of glasses, but bullets bounce off his head, too. And when you’re jumping across rooftops and going up against bad guys armed with everything from baseball bats to anti-tank guns, one would think that Bruce would insist that his young sidekick wear something to better protect his skull than that little Zorro-band.
Remedy: Maybe Dick gets a cowl that covers his head. Maybe wearing a cowl throws off his balance as an acrobat. Maybe his cape comes with a hood. Stranger things were explained away in Batman Begins (memory cloth anyone?).

If you go with the cowl, you have Red Robin (an adult Dick Grayson) from Kingdom Come:

 

[moguy]

If you go with the cowl, you have Red Robin (an adult Dick Grayson) from Kingdom Come:

Love those Ross figures

 

[Nighthawk_Fan]

If you go with the cowl, you have Red Robin (an adult Dick Grayson) from Kingdom Come:

That's cool!

 

[FVD]

I'm all for Robin appearing in the Nolan universe as long as he doesn't say tripe like "Holy Rusted Metal, Batman" etc. Nolan would never allow it anyway so yes that is a good thing. Having a Batfilm devoted to Robin's upbringing would be a good premise as long as Tony Zucco is included. Don't know which villains would be in the same movie though. Can't see Zucco as the main villain in that one film. I suppose if it were a third film we'd be seeing Twoface anyway.

And like The Dark Knight may we can actually have a movie called Robin Begins. Then again with Twoface in that same movie that may be pointless.

 

[Jordacar]

I'm all for Robin appearing in the Nolan universe as long as he doesn't say tripe like "Holy Rusted Metal, Batman" etc. Nolan would never allow it anyway so yes that is a good thing. Having a Batfilm devoted to Robin's upbringing would be a good premise as long as Tony Zucco is included. Don't know which villains would be in the same movie though. Can't see Zucco as the main villain in that one film. I suppose if it were a third film we'd be seeing Twoface anyway.

And like The Dark Knight may we can actually have a movie called Robin Begins. Then again with Twoface in that same movie that may be pointless.

Many years back, when I was young and stupid, I wrote an outline for a Batman movie with origins of Robin and Two-Face. I called it "Batman: Black & White"
Please note, I was young and stupid

 

[Jordacar]

I wouldn't mind Robin sporting a hood, like the one Damien wore with the suit he stole:

It would certainly do more to cover his face (and hide his age) than just the mask. And it would explain why Dick's hair is always messy

 

[Joker's Lackey]

This is how i would do a "Robin Begins" storyline. and brace yourself this is very long.

* First it would be after three Batman films so part four.

* The first part of the movie which tells robins origin would be as follows.

* The first part would take place between Batman Begins and The dark knight

*I would start the movie with a Man that looks like a low level Mafia enforcer(Anthony Zucco) trying to extort some money from a man named Haley( or Something Haley). A young boy(Dick) is watching, and hears Haley refusing this man. Later much like Batman Forever, I would have all the whose who(Bruce Wayne with an escort, Lucius Fox, Commish Gordon with his very young Daughter or Niece Barbara, Kathy Kane for a cameo, and much more) of Gotham making an appearance at a big circus production (Haley's Circus) which is also a charity event with the Flying Grayson's as the Headliner. The show is going very well, then the Grayson's are up. They Wow the crowd, Bruce is shown even more impressed with the Young Grayson(who would be 8 years maxed). At the end, when setting up their final acrobat move, a wire comes lose and kills Dick's parents. Dick is left alone atop a tower watching over head tears in his eyes, people are heard screaming, Haley and Commish Gordon are rushing to the parents, and Bruce looks up and makes eye contact with Dick. Hours later we get a Batman Begins scene, in the Police office, except instead of a young Bruce, it's Dick Grayson. He tells Gordon what he saw before the event. Bruce is shown already at the Cave looking for leads. Dick is sent to an orphanage out in Bludhaven(a reason why Dick would return later to be Nightwing). Zucco is never caught(which would be important as Batman never catches him, and it can come into play later on his decision to keep Robin).

*Bludhaven should be a small city next to Gotham.

* The next parts of the Movie would be moved 7-8 years ahead.

* Dick is now an angry Teen, has never been adoted, gets into a lot of fights at his school.

* A scene should show Dick in a meeting with the head figure of his Orphanage, where Dick is told how poorly is attitude is,and poor his grades are and the only thing he excels at is his training at the Richard Dragon's Martial Arts Academy(it would be a cool nod).

* This is how I see the Bat's and Robin meeting. Bruce is investigating another vigilante that is capturing old and Current Mobsters. Batman eventually finds out it's Dick Grayson, Batman decides to reopen the case that he once failed. On separate paths, they are both looking for the murder of Dick's parents. Dick finds out first, he visit his old boss Haley in some sack outside of Gotham, and forces him to talk about that night. Haley tells him that Anthony Zucco was the man responsible. Later Batman does the same visit, and finds out the same information. After a little investigating Batman finds out that Zucco works for the Black Mask Mafia, run by Roman Sionis. Dick now in the Guise of Robin, finds Zucco's hideout. He knocks a few people out and confronts Zucco. During the talk someone appears behind Robin and knocks him out. So the Movie's climax is Batman rescuing Robin from the Black Mask Mafia. After the bad guys are captured, Batman has to talk Dick out of killing Zucco. Batman succeeds, the Police come and take Zucco away.

* The last part is Bruce apdoting Dick, and telling Dick that he is Batman, and if he wants true Justice he has to be above revenge, and that he can help. Dick agrees. The last scene should be Bruce and Dick in the cave surrounded by candles, Robin is saying an oath, and puts on his mask. The End.

* I really like the candle light oath idea.

* He shouldn't have a costume till the end.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Interesting work there, Lackey. Yes, there definitely is something to the idea that Dick becomes a vigilante on his own long before Batman ever takes him under his wing. I would likewise prefer to introduce Robin in part four. You ought to add a very young Tim Drake to the cameos at the circus (I know he'd be like 3 on this timeline, but still).