Robin Hood

[regwec]

Ethnic identity was quite amorphous at the time, though. A man could speak little English and yet identify himself as English through a spiritual or dynastic attachment to the land of England. You see this with, for instance, Archbishop Lafranc, who was made Archbishop of Canterbury by William I straight after the Norman conquest. Lafranc was one of the new set of immigrants, but chose a degree of English ethnic identity because his office connected him to England and the English.

The concept of France and French is awkward at the time, as well. Richard I was an Angevin, with lands in Anjou, Gascony etc as well as being King of England. He wasn't French, because the political construct of the Kingdom of France didn't extend to his properties, though he did owe allegiance to the French king as Duke of Normandy. The Angevins were generally bitter enemies of the French.

I hope this film touches on some historical figures who generally go unappreciated; Hubert Walter and William Marshal are the big ones.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Aw man, this film looks awesome!

 

[DACrowe]

warrior Marion? Well it was the worst scene in the lats one, so I dunno. We'll see.

 

[regwec]

It seems to be unavoidable, doesn't it? Hollywood logic is to modernise everything in the crudest possible way. C14th English ballads- find the single notable female character and turn her into a Xena clone. Don't bother to make her emotionally, intellectually or politically powerful- a sword and a shrill war cry is much easier for us dumbos to understand.

 

[BestGirl]

Eleanor of Aquitaine would've been a good model for a sexy, powerful, smart medieval woman.

 

[DACrowe]

Well the Middle Ages are full of intriguing woman of power and stories, though notably outnumbered by the men. For example, Empress Theodora, wife to Justinian I of the Byzantine Empire in the 6th century was a courtesan that he fell in love with, despite already being married and she eventually became his new wife before being crowned. They ruled almost as a partnership and succeeded at forming a war campaign that took the North African area, went into Italy and even Visigothic Spain. Sure ten years later a plague ruined their conquests and shortly after Muslims came out of Arabia and "liberated" most of their conquests for Islam, but it s a great story!

Yeah at the time of the late 12th century French and English identities had not really settled. Normans had just taken England and they are descended from Northern Europeans so they have a different history of the Saxons already there and France was forming as the Frankish kingdoms (the former Carolingian Empire) were recovering from collapsing in the previous two centuries and were overshadowed by the Saxons in Germany. English identity and French identity were still on the rise and far from national identities.

But I was unaware that Richard did not speak much English and mostly spoke French. Interesting!

 

[gwynplaine]

"Robin and Marian".
Sean Connery fights Robert Shaw, again .

 

[DocHoliday]

No reason to be disappointed about Warrior Marion. There is no definitive version of Robin Hood anyway. But Blanchett will do a good job, she always does.

 

[stargazer]

No reason to be disappointed about Warrior Marion. There is no definitive version of Robin Hood anyway. But Blanchett will do a good job, she always does.

I think "Robin of Sherwood", the tv show from the 80s is one of the best, though I'm no expert on this mythology but I love it. And Michael Praed is the best Robin ever, imo.

That said, I dunno but it seems to me that the leads to this movie are a little too old, no? I mean, I like both Crowe and Blanchet but I always imagine Robin and Lady Marian to be a lot younger than this, at least at the beginning of the story. We'll see..

 

[BestGirl]

I think "Robin of Sherwood", the tv show from the 80s is one of the best, though I'm no expert on this mythology but I love it. And Michael Praed is the best Robin ever, imo.

That said, I dunno but it seems to me that the leads to this movie are a little too old, no? I mean, I like both Crowe and Blanchet but I always imagine Robin and Lady Marian to be a lot younger than this, at least at the beginning of the story. We'll see..

That's the concern I've had since I first heard about the casting. Robin Hood and Maid Marian starting out middle-aged is curious.

 

[Doctor Jones]

You say that now. But when you see Crowe kick ass and go all Maximus on their asses you may think different.

 

[DACrowe]

No reason to be disappointed about Warrior Marion. There is no definitive version of Robin Hood anyway. But Blanchett will do a good job, she always does.

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ahem,



Fixed.

 

[stargazer]

You say that now. But when you see Crowe kick ass and go all Maximus on their asses you may think different.

Meh, not impressed. Just don't see him as Robin. We'll see..

Now, this IS Robin Hood,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Od6MDpscw


The Lady Marian in that show was perfect too.

 

[Armored Avenger]

Shouldn't we be getting a teaser trailer for this film soon? Perhaps around Christmas?

 

[Authorize]

Since this is a Robin Hood thread. I post this here.

It looks like someone else is taking a stab at the Robin Hood legend. In the vein of horror.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17679

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I dunno, when I heard Crowe was cast as Robin Hood...I thought he was little old too.

But that first picture of him, I think gets the point across I thought, of this being an older, more grizzled veteran Robin Hood. The angle of him having seen some horrible **** in the crusade might come across better too, with having a grizzled Robin.

 

[Armored Avenger]

I didn't see these pictures posted so I took photos of them. They are from the new issue of Empire, which is great and contains quite a bit of new information on the film as well. It's worth getting hold of:

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I always anticipate any Ridley Scott film, so I am really looking forward to this.

 

[dark_b]

i will give it a chance. but i dont like the round head. to much fat around hes face IMO.

 

[DarkKnight88]

trailer

http://www.kidstribute.ca/trailers/Robin+Hood/17591

 

[bunk]

History rock on! **** yeah!

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

I just saw Body of Lies this week. Really a lot of people should have seen that movie. Very under rated Ridley Scott movie.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

ET is showing some Robin Hood stuff on Tuesday and Iron Man 2 on Wednesday.


Okay, that last image of him bloody was pretty awesome.

 

[DACrowe]

Well I'm not sure it's Robin Hood, but it is cool to see Gladiator II: Maximus Goes Medieval (literally).

hehe. I'm sold for the movie.

 

[DACrowe]

Well I'm not sure it's Robin Hood, but it is cool to see Gladiator II: Maximus Goes Medieval (literally).

hehe. I'm sold for the movie.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Not sure what to make of that trailer but there are some cool shots in there.