The Dark Knight Robin Threads Merged (Do NOT Make Anymore)

[CConn]

Tim Drake's origin could be used. That's a much more modern take on it.

 

[darwinwins]

bah, snakes on a plane.

 

[Katsuro]

Tim Drake's origin wouldn't work. His whole origin is based around the previous Robins existing. He sees Batman growing darker after the death of Todd, and tries to convince Dick to team up with Batman again, Dick and Alfred eventually decide Tim should become Robin, and convince Batman to let him join. Also, Tim was at the circus the night Robin's parents were killed, which is what made him such a huge fan of Robin (and Batman).

Tim Drake's origin is cool and everything, but it shouldn't be used for the first Robin on film. Dick Grayson's classic circus origin could easily be modified to work in these films. I wish Keyser Sushi were here, he has this long argument for how Robin could realistically be done that he posts whenever this topic comes up. He calls it Robin 101 I believe.

that's too unrealistic. i'll accept a grown man in a suit and even a microwave device that for some reason spared people's internal systems from boiling instantaneously, but a circus that would shun taking care of of its own is too far.

But would he really want to stay with the circus? I mean, he was part of a team act, and with his parents dead, would he even have a place with the circus?

 

[CConn]

Tim Drake's origin wouldn't work. His whole origin is based around the previous Robins existing. He sees Batman growing darker after the death of Todd, and tries to convince Dick to team up with Batman again, Dick and Alfred eventually decide Tim should become Robin, and convince Batman to let him join. Also, Tim was at the circus the night Robin's parents were killed, which is what made him such a huge fan of Robin (and Batman).

That could be rather easily modified to a solo Batman. It really depends on who directs the film. If Nolan's doing, I'd really think there'd have to be quite a few modifications to the character like Scarecrow was in BB.

If someone a bit less realistic was doing, I coudl see the circus origin and whatnot. Granted, I haven't seen Keyser's "101" so maybe it could work with Nolan.

 

[darwinwins]

how about bruce has a son and he becomes robin? you know, since everyone seems to want robin but what's wrong with one more incarnation of him? this makes more sense than taking in a ward.

 

[Doc Holliday]

No. Bruce never has a child. Do you realize how much something that different from the comics would upset all the hardcore Bat-fans?

 

[Ronny Shade]

That could be rather easily modified to a solo Batman. It really depends on who directs the film. If Nolan's doing, I'd really think there'd have to be quite a few modifications to the character like Scarecrow was in BB.

If someone a bit less realistic was doing, I coudl see the circus origin and whatnot. Granted, I haven't seen Keyser's "101" so maybe it could work with Nolan.

I'd find it for you, but I'm lazy. It's good.

 

[darwinwins]

No. Bruce never has a child. Do you realize how much something that different from the comics would upset all the hardcore Bat-fans?

it's such an arbitrary argument on the origin of characters. for him to have a son and teach him all the things he knows makes more sense than taking in some kid who suddenly can do ninja and crap.

 

[Doc Holliday]

He still teaches him all the stuff, it's just that Robin isn't his child. The reason he takes him in is that he feels compassion for him, because his parents were killed when he was a child also.

 

[darwinwins]

He still teaches him all the stuff, it's just that Robin isn't his child. The reason he takes him in is that he feels compassion for him, because his parents were killed when he was a child also.

yeah yeah everyone has a sob story. batman is dragged down by robin in the movies. it makes it more of an ensemble performance instead of having bats be the center of the movie with a supporting cast. remember why batman & robin sucked?

but then again, these arguements are dumb cos we know robin won't make an appearance as robin for quite a while. long live nolan.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Yes, I do remember why Batman and Robin sucked.


your point?

 

[darwinwins]

Yes, I do remember why Batman and Robin sucked.


your point?

the main difference between batman forever and batman & robin was that the latter film took focus off of batman and made it into a movie of the bat family. no one cares for it because batman suddenly became a warm father figure. the villains sucked in their execution but that hardly mattered because the portrayal of bruce as that warm father figure basically sucks the life out of the batman that was established in the first three films. even in forever, he was a cold bastard till he found a woman he would giveup being batman (when the film took a turn for the worse real quick).

 

[Ronny Shade]

That's because it was poorly written.

Both of these films had Robin and Batgirl, and neither of them sucked.

 

[darwinwins]

That's because it was poorly written.

Both of these films had Robin and Batgirl, and neither of them sucked.

they can pull off a cartoon world because in your head, people know it's a cartoon. in the threatrical films, robin can't work. also, those plots were straight forward and simple.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I dare you to say the plot of RotJ was straightforward and simple again.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Darwin, do you realize your argument is completely empty?

Everyone keeps presenting things to prove Robin can work if done right, but you keep saying it doesn't matter, because Robin can't work in a film.

Oxymoron anyone?

 

[Ronny Shade]

thank you shaggy.

you shall go on my list of newbies not to be eliminated.

EDIT: You're not really a newbie, been here a year, just low post count.

 

[Two-Face]

I care less if Robin is in or not but I don't want him in BB2 or BB3 till 4th.

 

[CConn]

Darwin, do you realize your argument is completely empty?

Everyone keeps presenting things to prove Robin can work if done right, but you keep saying it doesn't matter, because Robin can't work in a film.

Oxymoron anyone?

Or just plain moron.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I care less if Robin is in or not but I don't want him in BB2 or BB3 till 4th.

concurment

 

[CConn]

Agreed, as well.

In fact, I declare anyone who does not agree senile.

 

[Ronny Shade]

*presents CConn with a medical doctorate*

 

[CConn]

Awesome.

That's my third one this month.

 

[Ronny Shade]

You deserve them all

 

[Two-Face]

Agreed, as well.

In fact, I declare anyone who does not agree senile.

concurment

*gives a Budweiser to Ronny and Conn*