Rocky 6

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Contrary to Superman Returns and Basic Instinct 2, RB has a good original story.

Isn't it just him returning to the ring for one last shot? If so, doesn't sound very original IMO. I'm probably missing stuff tho.

 

[Bad Superman]

Isn't it just him returning to the ring for one last shot? If so, doesn't sound very original IMO. I'm probably missing stuff tho.

It's the basic plot line, but it's not that linear. It's also about "Skill VS. Will" and how age is not a limitation for people to try to do things. Sly got his inspiration from George Foreman's comeback when he won the Heavyweight title for the second time. I think the trailer sums up the film's premise quite well. Did you watch it?

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

It's the basic plot line, but it's not that linear. It's also about "Skill VS. Will" and how age is not a limitation for people to try to do things. Sly got his inspiration from George Foreman's comeback when he won the Heavyweight title for the second time. I think the trailer sums up the film's premise quite well. Did you watch it?

Yeah, I saw it, but I didn't get all that from it. I love the first, second, and fourth Rocky movies, so it would be awesome for this one to be good, its just that I feel it won't be.

 

[HUMAN]

The Rocky saga comes full circle in this film. Rocky has been through some tough times and he decides that there's really nothing left to loose so why not keep fighting? The story is more about realizing that even as we age we can continue to grow and triumph, no matter what the obstacle. The boxing is just an added treat.

 

[Bad Superman]

From the Hype's front page:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16166


NY Rocky Fans Knocked Out by New Trailer

Source: Jonathan Baylis August 23, 2006


I don't know what came first. My fascination with Muhammad Ali and the sport of boxing? Or my crazed fandom of the "Rocky" movies. Though Schwarzenegger may have won the box office war back in the day, my heart has always held a place for Sly Stallone and his #1 character, the Italian Stallion. So it is with great anticipation that I await "Rocky VI," even if it means we're one step closer to that throwaway gag poster of "Rocky XXXVIII" from Airplane II.

For the original Rocky, Stallone drew inspiration from a boxer named Chuck Wepner, an unknown that was given the chance to fight Ali. And it is perhaps from George Foreman's well that he drinks from this round for the story of "Rocky VI," or rather, Rocky Balboa, the story of a once great heavyweight making a comeback at an age not thought possible.

I watched the trailer for Rocky Balboa before an outdoor screening of the original Rocky on a lovely night in Manhattan at the Bryant Park Film Festival. The first chords of Bill Conti's famous theme brought out loud cheers from the big crowd. "I love Rocky, man!" shouted Chris, 38. The story plays on the age-old fantasy of what would happen if two boxers in their prime, but of different generations, fought in the ring. Like, "Who would win in a rumble between Joe Louis and Mike Tyson?" In this case, it is the fictional Rocky Balboa (Stallone) vs. Mason "The Line" Dixon (real life boxer Antonio Tarver). But what if Rocky came out of retirement to actually make this happen? Could he pull it off?

I spoke with a few people on surrounding blankets at the outdoor festival. "I can't believe Rocky is going to fight again. I want to see it" said Kim, 28. Stallone, 60, who has clearly kept up his workout routine, brought out the believer in some fans. "Stallone looks in great shape!" continued Chris. My philosophical boxing buddy John, 34, chimed in, "I think that the trailer looks great! The series is a great look at American filmmaking throughout the decades. I'll be first in line!"

I might be in line with him, if to only fantasize about there being an American Heavyweight Champ (all current belts are held by former Soviets (and no, none of them are named Drago)). The original Rocky is one of the greatest underdog stories of all time. Rocky Balboa looks like the return of that underdog, and I for one will buy ringside seats.

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All positive reactions.

 

[HUMAN]

It's amazing. The Da Vinci Code was made with $100+ million and is a huge bookseller and did poorly at the movies. Superman Returns was made with $200+ million and did poorly at the movies. But a movie that was made with barely $30+ million is probably going to do great. Just goes to show how people crave substance no matter what your budget is.

I'm looking forward to Rocky Returns!!

 

[Bad Superman]

It's amazing. The Da Vinci Code was made with $100+ million and is a huge bookseller and did poorly at the movies. Superman Returns was made with $200+ million and did poorly at the movies. But a movie that was made with barely $30+ million is probably going to do great. Just goes to show how people crave substance no matter what your budget is.

I'm looking forward to Rocky Returns!!

You're right. I compare this with Alexander and Blair Witch Project. The first one had a huge budget, great special FX's and cast but the writing was weak making the film fail at the BO. On the other hand you have Blair Witch Project which had a very small budget and because of it's story was a huge BO success. I think Rocky Balboa will surprise the critics and will do good on the BO.

 

[Fenrir]

It's amazing. The Da Vinci Code was made with $100+ million and is a huge bookseller and did poorly at the movies.

Um, with a domestic total of $217 million and a foreign gross coming in around $535 million for a grand total box office gross of more than $752 million worldwide can hardly be called as doing "poorly at the movies".

 

[supzfan]

At first I was hyped about this film as I figured Stallone was determined to redeem himself after the last "Rocky" disaster. But seeing a 60 year old guy fighting the heavyweight champion of the world is ridiculous, even by Stallone standards. Foreman was 45 when he won back the title and was way behind on points till he landed that right hand bomb on Michael Moorer. Now that loudmouth Antonio Tarver (Mason Dixon) has had his butt whipped royally by Bernard Hopkins, a lot of the luster of this movie has been tarnished. The first two Rocky movies worked so well because he was an endearing character who combined humor with pathos: the eternal underdog. But they were terribly flawed from a technical standpoint and lacked originality. Basically, they ripped-off every boxing movie that had come before as well as Brando. Stallone makes an unconvincing fighter as he does almost everything wrong. He wouldn't last 5 minutes in the ring if he fought like that. But, hey, that's Hollywood. What baloney. But those shortcomings were balanced out by the humanity of those characters: Burt Young's Paulie, Talia Shire's Adrian and, most of all, the great Burgess Meredith as Mick. I think I'll pass on this one. The best boxing movie? For me it's "Body And Soul" with John Garfield". After that, "The Set Up" with Robert Ryan" and "Somebody up There Likes Me" about the REAL Rocky (Rocky Graziano) with Paul Newman. Just for the record, here's a list of some Hollywood actors who were boxers: Anthony Quinn, Jack Palance, Robert Ryan, Rod Taylor, George Reeves, Victor McGlaglen. Real tough guys.

 

[HUMAN]

Um, with a domestic total of $217 million and a foreign gross coming in around $535 million for a grand total box office gross of more than $752 million worldwide can hardly be called as doing "poorly at the movies".

Well, poorly considering how well the book did compared to the expectations for the movie.

 

[Bad Superman]

At first I was hyped about this film as I figured Stallone was determined to redeem himself after the last "Rocky" disaster. But seeing a 60 year old guy fighting the heavyweight champion of the world is ridiculous, even by Stallone standards. Foreman was 45 when he won back the title and was way behind on points till he landed that right hand bomb on Michael Moorer. Now that loudmouth Antonio Tarver (Mason Dixon) has had his butt whipped royally by Bernard Hopkins, a lot of the luster of this movie has been tarnished. The first two Rocky movies worked so well because he was an endearing character who combined humor with pathos: the eternal underdog. But they were terribly flawed from a technical standpoint and lacked originality. Basically, they ripped-off every boxing movie that had come before as well as Brando. Stallone makes an unconvincing fighter as he does almost everything wrong. He wouldn't last 5 minutes in the ring if he fought like that. But, hey, that's Hollywood. What baloney. But those shortcomings were balanced out by the humanity of those characters: Burt Young's Paulie, Talia Shire's Adrian and, most of all, the great Burgess Meredith as Mick. I think I'll pass on this one. The best boxing movie? For me it's "Body And Soul" with John Garfield". After that, "The Set Up" with Robert Ryan" and "Somebody up There Likes Me" about the REAL Rocky (Rocky Graziano) with Paul Newman. Just for the record, here's a list of some Hollywood actors who were boxers: Anthony Quinn, Jack Palance, Robert Ryan, Rod Taylor, George Reeves, Victor McGlaglen. Real tough guys.

It's your loss kid. . . It's your loss. . .​

 

[DACrowe]

Anyone who can say Rocky VI has an original plot is dillusional. That is like saying ANY of the Rocky sequels had original plots which is too ridiculous save for perhaps Rocky V but that was easily the worst movie in the franchise (at this point).

Here let me guess:

Rocky has aged well past his prime and is alone again and working a dead in job. He gets some hope from somewhere (apparently a computer match-up about him in his prime) and is going to do local fights but he is C-list at this point and is far beyond going to the real ring (like in Rocky I) but the world champion feels insulted by what happened (on a computer) and needs to prove it was a lie and a fluke and will beat a greying Rocky up to prove he is the better fighter (like Rocky II and Rocky V) but through hard training and determination Rocky is going to train himself back into shape for one last shot to go the distance in this incredibly one-sided fight. He'll go to the ring as the underdog, fight and probably within 5 rounds knock his opponent out proving he is the greatest underdog story of all time....agian.

Yeah.....REALLY original. It makes me laugh some call Superman Returns unoriginal and then call Rocky SIX original. Really funny stuff, really.

 

[PalmerTheThing]

I'm exited for this movie so badley.

 

[Milkman95]

Anyone who can say Rocky VI has an original plot is dillusional. That is like saying ANY of the Rocky sequels had original plots which is too ridiculous save for perhaps Rocky V but that was easily the worst movie in the franchise (at this point).

Here let me guess:

Rocky has aged well past his prime and is alone again and working a dead in job. He gets some hope from somewhere (apparently a computer match-up about him in his prime) and is going to do local fights but he is C-list at this point and is far beyond going to the real ring (like in Rocky I) but the world champion feels insulted by what happened (on a computer) and needs to prove it was a lie and a fluke and will beat a greying Rocky up to prove he is the better fighter (like Rocky II and Rocky V) but through hard training and determination Rocky is going to train himself back into shape for one last shot to go the distance in this incredibly one-sided fight. He'll go to the ring as the underdog, fight and probably within 5 rounds knock his opponent out proving he is the greatest underdog story of all time....agian.

Yeah.....REALLY original. It makes me laugh some call Superman Returns unoriginal and then call Rocky SIX original. Really funny stuff, really.

I guess I wouldn't say original, but it is a script that's realistic to a point for this franchise and has a great approach using a real-world idea in the computer match-up. It's been done many times already with NFL teams (1989's San Francisco 49ers and the late '70's Pittsburgh Steelers teams just to name one example).

Rocky owns a restaurant called Adrian's (his wife that has passed on), has a rough relationship with his Son that's now successful in the Corporate world, and his closest friend is Paulie. He does end up re-uniting with an old friend from the first film as well. Owning a restaurant is far from a dead-end job and after seeing the computer match-up, he does end up doing some local club fights to fill the emptyness of Adrian being gone and his Son not being around as much as he should.

Rocky will not win either. Going the distance with the world champ at 55 is indeed an underdog story in itself. This film isn't about winning, remember that.

 

[Milkman95]

New pics:

 

[Bad Superman]

Anyone who can say Rocky VI has an original plot is dillusional. That is like saying ANY of the Rocky sequels had original plots which is too ridiculous save for perhaps Rocky V but that was easily the worst movie in the franchise (at this point).

Here let me guess:

Rocky has aged well past his prime and is alone again and working a dead in job. He gets some hope from somewhere (apparently a computer match-up about him in his prime) and is going to do local fights but he is C-list at this point and is far beyond going to the real ring (like in Rocky I) but the world champion feels insulted by what happened (on a computer) and needs to prove it was a lie and a fluke and will beat a greying Rocky up to prove he is the better fighter (like Rocky II and Rocky V) but through hard training and determination Rocky is going to train himself back into shape for one last shot to go the distance in this incredibly one-sided fight. He'll go to the ring as the underdog, fight and probably within 5 rounds knock his opponent out proving he is the greatest underdog story of all time....agian.

Yeah.....REALLY original. It makes me laugh some call Superman Returns unoriginal and then call Rocky SIX original. Really funny stuff, really.

First, this is a Rocky Ralboa thread.

Second, thank you for "enlightening" us with your "unique" and "analytical" summary you read or saw from the trailer. The plot has been known now for quite some time. You're a couple of months late. The story is not as simplistic as you think it is. If you don't like it, that's fine. Just don't use your dislike of the film as an excuse to "get even" from my previous SR comparisson comments.

The only thing "new" you have "contributed" to this thread was the "Superman Returns is the greatest thing since sliced bread" pathetic rant.

Go cry somewhere else.

 

[DACrowe]

Pfft. Hardly. I in fact thought SR was only decent and heavily flawed. I was just making a point that it was every bit as original (and a bit moreso) than this movie.

Now I personally like the first two Rockys and think the third and fourth are guilty pleasures (I hate the fifth with a passion for the record) but you called this film original when everything inthe trailer is so obviously not.

And so he will not win in this? Well technically that is a rehash of the first film anyway, but the only conceivable way of being different is if he gets KOed which I just doubt will happen. Simply because this is the "last" one (as Rocky V was the "last" one) and him losing at the end doesn't work. I could see them redoing Rocky I where he doesn't win but he goes the distance but the idea of a 60 year old Rocky going 15 rounds and not staying down with the world champion is ridiculous.

I am merely saying that everything we've seen in this film we've seen before, but I'm sure Sly will put it together in a way with that rousing theme music to make it entertaining. But it is far from original as I think the whole movie is predictable. And if in fact he doesn't get KOed (which I HIGHLY doubt he will) the last seen will be Rocky win or lose (going the distance) in the ring saying "Adrian I did it!"

And hopefully Stallone will finally let sleeping dogs lie now.

 

[SoulManX]

New pics:

Sweet he is wear the Chucks like in the first film. And Milk love the avatar.

 

[Milkman95]

Sweet he is wear the Chucks like in the first film. And Milk love the avatar.

Thanks my friend, glad to see you here - I usually enjoy your pics in the Hottest Chicks thread.........

Hunter Rider deserves all the credit for the avatar............

Here's a link for you to check out all new updates concerning the film:

http://rockybalboablog.blogspot.com/

 

[Milkman95]

New picture from Rocky Balboa - Duke is back...........

 

[Milkman95]

Yet another new pic from the production:

 

[Lex Luthor]

I'm really looking forward to ROCKY VI. I've been a fan of the Rocky films since I was a kid. And I believe that this film will definately be a more justifiable way to end the series than the lackluster Part 5. I was really hoping to see alot of cameo's from characters who have appeared in the past films (i.e. Ivan Drago, Thunderlips), but I guess I'll have to settle with what is presented.

Heres hoping for the best.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i don't care if this is an "unoriginal" story or if it's Rocky 1,248...it looks like it has heart and that's all i want from this movie. screw the script and all the technicalities in making a movie...give me heart and i'll be happy.

 

[Tissues]

I think it looks pretty good.

 

[Armand Z Trip]

The Rocky statue will return to the Philadelphia Museum of Art! About ******* time!

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