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[TheVision]

^^ Agreed!

 

[Spitfire]

I think Film Crit Hulk describes it best by basically saying we like Bruce more when he's sad, but altruistic and willing to help others before he helps himself.

That's what Ruffalo helped convey.

Its the contrast between the two personas that makes the difference. Banner should be compassionate and altruistic, in contrast to the destructive Hulk personality. But both should have an element of sadness and loneliness to their characters (something they share).

It would make perfect sense in AoU for Banner to go from being friends with the team at the beginning of the movie to being an outcast again at the end.

 

[terry78]

The Hulk persona can kinda be willing to help others if he views them as a friend, but it's like a walking on eggshells thing with him. The smallest slight can make him turn.

 

[TheVision]

I dont like Bruce more when hes sad. That gets really dull. I like him to be the guy who knows the deal and still shines through regardless. He didnt sit and look at the floor in A1, he was sorta pissed off and edgy, much cooler.

 

[CoherentChaos]

I dont like Bruce more when hes sad. That gets really dull. I like him to be the guy who knows the deal and still shines through regardless. He didnt sit and look at the floor in A1, he was sorta pissed off and edgy, much cooler.

Totally agree, but in case you mistook me, I meant, Bruce is sad (that's always a given) but he doesn't let that define him, and thus, that's not how we as the audience define him. "We don't like our heroes mopey".

Film Cit Hulk constantly compares Ruffalo's Banner to Bixby. Bixby was sad and lonely yes, but he always ended up enjoying company and seeking to help people however he could, even if it got him in more trouble than if he would have just sulked in the corner and let things play out without him.

That's what Ruffalo brought back to Banner, and that's why we love RuffaHulk. He doesn't let his sadness or self pity show, because he's too busy being concerned about everyone else.

He's concerned about the people he knows are arrogant and self sure, and bound to bring about an episode (he no longer really blames himself I think. He realizes that over 75% of Hulk-Outs could have been avoided if people weren't *****), and about the people he knows he can help, and feels an obligation to help. This is a Bruce Banner that paradoxically seeks people despite his condition, he just has to make sure it's the right people, like the sick and wounded in a troubled country, one that was referred to as "very stressful".

 

[TheVision]

^^ Really looking forward to seeing how Bruce is doing in AOU. Such a great character.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Ugh, reading that interview makes me angry that they still won't give him a movie.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah it massively sucks, because even how great he was in the first Avengers or as great as he will be in AOU, he's still just one role among many. Forever a bridesmaid and never a bride in the current set up of the MCU.

 

[Mike5575]

Ruffalo revealed in an interview a while back that in AOU has the Hulk hulking out. That just sounds too awesome.

 

[TheVision]

HULK standalone movie is odd because as theyve said, Bruce is a Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde character that doesnt really want to be the hero side of himself. Noone would want to watch a film about a guy NOT trying to be HULK for 2 hours. Also the old cliche story about him as the lonely man evading the government is played out now. My idea is to just not have him be Banner at all and instead get HULK to be Joe Fixit, so its just HULK talking and being the main character the whole time. Since the MoCap stuff is so great, itd be Mark performing as The Hulk anyway. Itd be like what Andy Serkis does in the Apes movies.

 

[terry78]

They could do it as the budget would allow for it these days per Avatar and Apes. But they need to get it in their heads that Hulk is not just a spectacle.

 

[Spitfire]

I don't think the problem with Hulk movies is due to Banner's character trying to avoid becoming Hulk. I think the problem is that the movies stories didn't focus on anything but this and who was chasing Banner at the time.

Put Banner in an interesting situation, facing extreme threats alongside other fascinating characters and the conflict between the two personas could fit nicely into this story. Marvel seems to be changing their approach to solo movies and are moving towards films that include one lead and a couple of popular characters so this could work. For example, Dr Strange and Banner/Hulk fighting demons, or with Thor in Ragnarok. A story focusing on Banner/Hulk, but not dominated by the character, would be great.

 

[InternetPeople]

I must be the only one who doesn't like a talking, thinking, yet still irrational Hulk. From watching EMH, it's my only real reference for the character so please excuse my lack of knowledge, Hulk seems like a giant baby with a short fuse. His dialogue is simple and dumb and I don't find him funny at all. A guy who breaks everything that everyone must be cautious of is not a fun character to be around.

There are plenty of instances in sports where a talented player is such a cancer that the team functions better when they don't have to constantly perform maintenance on that player. Hulk is that player. Highly talented yet detrimental to the team. Banner gives the team someone to work with who can contribute some dialogue that doesn't sound like a toddler.

I may be completely off base here and will be the first to admit I am wrong if/when a talkative Hulk makes the big screen. These are just some reservationsI have coming from my limited knowledge of the character.

I have really enjoyed RuffaHulk so far and am interested in the where they take the character and confident in Marvel's choices.

 

[CoherentChaos]

EMH is probably the most juvenile of the Hulks. He's also present nearly all the time, since he's apparently sunk Bruce in, so Hulk starts to fit the "tough guy" archetype, with nothing intelligent to contribute given Bruce's strange absence for the majority of the series.

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Anyways, I was wondering if we'll see a Thunderclap in AoU. I think it's been long enough since TIH, so it could make a comeback without being too redundant. I wonder how they'd portray it, or how powerful they'd be comfortable with making it.

In TIH it was strong enough to extinguish a fiery explosion before it got too bad. Pretty nice feat, but I'd like to see it do something crazy next time we see it. Maybe like, the Hulkbuster fires a volley of missiles at Hulk, and Hulk claps with enough force to destroy and/or deflect the missiles before they can hit him. Or maybe it's not really a clap, but Hulk uses the same motion and force to slam his hands against HB's helmet or something and shatter it.

 

[HKpowerup]

Anyways, I was wondering if we'll see a Thunderclap in AoU. I think it's been long enough since TIH, so it could make a comeback without being too redundant. I wonder how they'd portray it, or how powerful they'd be comfortable with making it.

In TIH it was strong enough to extinguish a fiery explosion before it got too bad. Pretty nice feat, but I'd like to see it do something crazy next time we see it. Maybe like, the Hulkbuster fires a volley of missiles at Hulk, and Hulk claps with enough force to destroy and/or deflect the missiles before they can hit him. Or maybe it's not really a clap, but Hulk uses the same motion and force to slam his hands against HB's helmet or something and shatter it.

I thought a perfect way to re-introduce the thunderclap in A1 was the scene where he was getting laser–blasted by the Chitauri. That would’ve been great to see and an excellent scenario to showcase that move. Too bad it didn’t happen.

Hopefully next time we see it it does way more than what it did in TIH, and maybe even cause some collateral damage. A tsunami would be cool.

I just hope they significantly increase Hulk's strength/durability feats in AoU. After all, they'll be facing Thanos in a few years (as of current plans), and we probably won't see Hulk again until the IW movies.

 

[CoherentChaos]

That's what I like to believe happened, but just wasn't shown. Hulk would find one last burst of willpower and strength to push through the barrage of lasers and let out a powerful clap, which knocks the Chitauri chariots out of the sky. But the damage has already been done, to Hulk and to the rooftop on which he stands.

The damage from the lasers weakened the structure, and the concussive force of Hulk's clap is the final push, and so down the jade giant plummets, while being buried in rubble and in a state of recovery until next we see him.

 

[Dark Raven]

I do not like the Hulk's stretchy pants in this movie, as shown by the Hot Toys figure:

They look like sports pants, as if the Hulk were out for a jog.

I wish it were a darker shade of reddish purple and more ripped looking.

 

[InternetPeople]

The point of those pants is to not rip

 

[TheVision]

Hulks shorts are kinda funny. They make him look like hes an athlete.

 

[Wildcard]

And strangely I'm actually not against the pants. They may look weird at first but it's different...and not a bad kind of different, imo.

 

[terry78]

They make sense also.

 

[Kirmit]

It also helps convey that he's part of the team, suiting up with everyone else .

 

[TX85]

I like it,I think it would look better though if they were dark purple like Hawkeye's shade. Darker shade would be better and a nice nod if purple

 

[Dark Raven]

I like it,I think it would look better though if they were dark purple like Hawkeye's shade. Darker shade would be better and a nice nod if purple

I agree. It looks like a lilac pair of pants. She-Hulk might get away with that colour, but it's a little too light for Hulk.

 

[Coffee]

I don't think the problem with Hulk movies is due to Banner's character trying to avoid becoming Hulk. I think the problem is that the movies stories didn't focus on anything but this and who was chasing Banner at the time.

Put Banner in an interesting situation, facing extreme threats alongside other fascinating characters and the conflict between the two personas could fit nicely into this story. Marvel seems to be changing their approach to solo movies and are moving towards films that include one lead and a couple of popular characters so this could work. For example, Dr Strange and Banner/Hulk fighting demons, or with Thor in Ragnarok. A story focusing on Banner/Hulk, but not dominated by the character, would be great.

I agree! I think the stories have to move beyond "the standard chase". They are plenty of other potential stories that could sustain a solo movie & it's sequels. The Winter Soldier is a great model to follow.

Incorporate the supporting characters (Rick Jones, Betty, Doc Sampson, Jennifer Walters, Jim Wilson etc.) to create a bigger universe & storyline(s). Give all the characters something important to do.

Give Banner a high stakes storyline that doesn't involve "curing himself".
There could be some sort of biological threat that Banner need to stop. Banner is a scientist, use this.

Also by using Doc Sampson (or bringing in someone like Hawkeye), you'll get plenty of "human style action". I think this is needed. Hulk can't "fight" people in a traditional sense, but you could still have big solid set pieces (like the Nick Fury car sequence) that don't involve the hulk. Sampson could engage in "the Rock" style action.

For the hulk, he has plenty of villains to face (Wendigo, halflife, the leader, madman, zzazz) But don't just have a smackdown, find interesting ways to use them.

In terms of the hulk, I don't think he should be mindless. There has to be some sort of control, yet some the public still has a huge distrust of him, while others don't. Make it interesting.