Eternals Rumors about the Eternals coming in Phase 4...

[Tymminator]

If this pans out, I think it would be awesome, and it would fit with the whole “cosmic direction” they are said to take next phase.

 

[Yowza]

Here's my thoughts on the cosmic direction:

I think The Eternals could be done similarly to Thor Ragnarok's tone but better if it can be edited more cohesively with less forced narrative and better dialogue. Still not sure how this could be contained within Marvel's formula though. Serious sort of mythic drama interwoven into a Kirbyesque film would make it unique; just a crowd pleaser probably could go with a property less complicated though.

Anyway, here's some thoughts I had on this months ago:
The Eternals: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=536767&highlight=the+eternals&page=3

Casting Ideas: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=537911&highlight=the+eternals

Relation to Olympians: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=531161&highlight=the+eternals

Misc.:
Quasar Movie Idea: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=536767&highlight=the+eternals&page=4

Warlock and Infinity Watch: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=536767&highlight=the+eternals

Edit: Fixed links above

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm sorry but the last thing I'd want is for the Eternals to have the tone of Ragnarok, as fun as it was.

 

[Damkac]

Don't know anything about them but I'm sure Marvel knows what they are doing.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Don't know anything about them but I'm sure Marvel knows what they are doing.

**cough** (INHUMANS) **cough**

 

[Zarex]

Marvel Studios knows what they are doing.

 

[Random490]

Marvel Studios knows what they are doing.

Very important distinction.

 

[MbJ]

Marvel is allegedly meeting with writers.

 

[Detective Conan]

The more Marvel Studios realizes the Disney/Fox deal is going to be a reality then the less the Eternals is less of a priority for them.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I think the Eternals could work. My thought is the very first Eternals story (very Jack Kirby and all) worked fairly well as an almost Indiana Jones style adventure. Either way, it would be helpful for them to build up the Celestial mythology a bit more.

 

[MbJ]

The more Marvel Studios realizes the Disney/Fox deal is going to be a reality then the less the Eternals is less of a priority for them.

Having at least one curve ball franchise would be consistent with the studio's previous output.

Just because they have the X-Men again doesn't mean they need to stop using lesser known characters.

 

[Detective Conan]

Having at least one curve ball franchise would be consistent with the studio's previous output.

Just because they have the X-Men again doesn't mean they need to stop using lesser known characters.

Sure, but in this case it lessens the likelihood of them using obscure characters as much as they used to. No way they would have even considered Guardians, Ant-Man, and Strange and positioned them in the universe the way they have had they had access to FF and the Mutants at the beginning.

Keep in mind: I'm not saying them having access to almost all their characters means they'll cease doing movies about lesser-known characters(of course not) but my point is them having access to their most well-known properties lessens the desire try them as much as before Feige would be ecstatic to put his own spin on characters that he started his extremely successful career with.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Having at least one curve ball franchise would be consistent with the studio's previous output.

Just because they have the X-Men again doesn't mean they need to stop using lesser known characters.

Yeah, I don't buy the argument that once Marvel Studios has the right to the X-Men it's suddenly going to be the 1990s with X-Men and nothing else. One of Marvel's main focuses has been on variety and having different types of characters and movies.

 

[Tymminator]

Yeah, I don't buy the argument that once Marvel Studios has the right to the X-Men it's suddenly going to be the 1990s with X-Men and nothing else. One of Marvel's main focuses has been on variety and having different types of characters and movies.

They wouldn’t because Feige is simply not that stupid. If Marvel Studios suddenly owned all their stuff and Perlmutter was in charge or any other type of generic CEO then yeah, I could see a shift where only big named titles would be focused on. However Feige is in charge and they now have documented proof that “2nd/3rd” tier titles can bring in huge $$$.

That’s why is was a good thing at first Sony and Fox has/had certain properties as it made Marvel Studio make do, but in the process of that they discovered some of these other “lesser” title would not only just do “OK” or even be a “hit”, but a few would become full fledged blosckbusters with huge fan followings.

X-Men and F4 will take up a slot each in new phases and I could even see a few X-men solos eventually, but now they know they don’t have to devote just to X-Men as that’s simply leaving money on the table. You just don’t know what might be your next Guardians of the Galaxy or Black Panther.

 

[Zarex]

One of the rumored ideas for the Inhumans way back when it was a movie was to have the Royal Family as Kree sleeper agents hiding in plain sight, waiting to be activated when the invasion took place. And, of course, deciding to rebel in favor of their adopted home. The other rumored idea was a "Game of Thrones" style royal drama, which Marvel TV was able to carry out to perfection under the skilled leadership of one Scott Buck.

But before I go on too long gushing about Inhumans, I'm thinking the sleeper agent idea could be recycled for Eternals. Have Sersi, Makkari, Ikaris and the gang living on earth setting the stage for a Celestial invasion before ultimately deciding to take the big guy down. Of course Feige may just decide to go all "Inhumans with a proper budget", in which case nevermind.

 

[Comic Book Guy]

2019: Spider-Man 2
2020: GOTG3, Black Widow, Dr. Strange 2
2021: Black Panther 2, Spider-Man 3, Ant-Man 3, The Eternals
2022: Captain Marvel 2, X-Men, Fantastic Four
2023: Avengers: Secret Wars?

Can see the new slate of movies playing out like this. X-Men and maybe FF and definitely elements of the FF rights will be interwoven into movies prior to their own movies in 2022. If the rights close around early-mid 2019, then we could see Silver Surfer and Galactus or some other returned cosmic rights hinted, cameoed, or teased in GOTG3. Maybe the new Wolverine can be introduced in the Black Widow movie, and the FF themselves can first hinted at or mentioned in Dr. Strange 2. Then with the following 2021 movies, you have potential to really introduce the FF in either BP2 or SM3, and have the concept of mutants really introduced and delved into in The Eternals movie since the experimentation by the Celestials that created Eternals and Deviants also created mutants.

What will also be interesting is if Marvel decides to make the big team up film with all the new problems under an Avengers branded title or just label it something like Marvel's Secret Wars and retire the Avengers brand for a while to build up hype and not overuse the property.

 

[Silvermoth]

You know I love marvel and have for years but I actually don’t know that much about the eternals. Who is their arch nemesis?

 

[Comic Book Guy]

The Deviants

 

[Mike Murdock]

You know I love marvel and have for years but I actually don’t know that much about the eternals. Who is their arch nemesis?

The Deviants.

The short version is this: Do you know the Celestials? In the movies, they can be seen in Guardians of the Galaxy in the scene showing the creation of the Infinity Stones. One of the heads of the Celestials is the location of Knowhere. And, in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Ego is described as a Celestial (he's not in the comics) and the Celestials are described as gods.

Well, in the comics, the Celestials came to Earth and decided to mess with evolution. They created three branches of humans - the Eternals (who are basically god-like people similar to Asgardians and including characters like Eros/Starfox), the Deviants (who are hideously deformed and are the rivals to the Eternals), and the rest of humanity who have latent abilities for powers (in other words, the first mutants with the X-Gene).

The Eternals themselves are sort of Greek pantheon-esque, although, confusingly, there's also a Greek pantheon. The main Eternals are people like Ikaris and Sersi. However, a group of Eternals left and went to Titan. Among these is a person known as Mentor, who had two sons - Eros (who I mentioned earlier) and some guy named Thanos who you may have heard of.

 

[Yowza]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(comics)
The information provided on wikipedia provides a lot of good info. I tried to categorize it in chronological sequence while emphasizing certain key points below. (I derived info. from several other sources as noted as well).

5 million Years Ago First Celestial Visit to Earth: Performed genetic experiments on early "proto-humanity" (Also did this on Kree and Skrull homeworlds at other points of time accounting for super beings over there) . This led to the following races:

a) Long Lived Eternals (Homo Immortalis): Way longer lifespans than humans (not originally immortal) keeps them from maintaining contact with humans but remain humanity's protector in time of need especially from the Deviants. They can interbreed with humans but end result is a normal human mostly always.

b) Genetically Unstable Deviants (Homo Descendus) due to Celestial tampering in first generation resulting in an unstable genetic code changing per generation. A Deviant child may not look anything like their parents; they're also not always human looking like the Eternals are. However, in an evolutionary sense they're mutations occur faster than that in humans resulting in more advanced civilization rife with lots of infighting.

c) Some leftover normal Humans with latent capacity for mutations (mutants)

Civil War Amongst Eternals: Kronos and his warlike brother Uranos were the opposing sides.

The Defeated Faction After-Effects:
Uranos Colony: Uranos's side defeated so left Earth where re-built colony on planet Uranos.

Titan Colony: Some of Uranos's group tried returning to Earth for re-attack on Kronos but attacked by passing Kree armada forcing them to land on Titan where built colony here on an abandoned Kree outpost.

Inhumans: The passing Kree armada managed to capture one of the members of group that settled on Titan named Aflok . Vivisection on this Eternal made Kree realize derived from Earth which made them decide to go to Earth and perform genetic experiments on regular humans where created the Inhumans.

Kronos's Winning Side of Eternals:
New Strain of Eternals with Activated Genes: Kronos while conducting experiments in his lab on cosmic energy accidentally caused a catastrophic release of energy throughout the Eternals' city of Titanos destroying it. The Eternals populating the city were bombarded with this cosmic energy irradiating latent genes that became now activated. The Eternals now found they could channel large quantities of cosmic energy themselves, granting them near-godlike power. Kronos on the other hand was disintegrated to an extent where his atoms were scattered, but his astral form still survives on this plane of reality, quietly observing life in the universe. (some of this additional info. gleaned from http://marvel.com/universe/Eternals#ixzz5Clha1HwE)


New Leader: The accident left Kronos in an immaterial state, so a new leader had to be chosen. For the first time, the Eternals merged into a single being, the Uni-Mind, to decide which of Kronos's sons, Zuras or A'lars should be the new leader. Zuras was chosen, and A'lars chose to leave Earth to avoid causing another civil war, and journeyed to Titan.

Back to Titan:
Re-Populating Titan-A war started by "the dragon of the moon" had wiped out all but one member of the Titan colony, a woman named Sui-San. A'lars (who later would be known as "Mentor") fell in love with her, and in time they repopulated Titan. Due to the mix of activated genes from A'lars and unactivated ones from Sui-San, these new Titanian Eternals are not as powerful or immortal as Terran Eternals, but are more powerful and longer-lived than the earlier pre-civil war Titanian Eternals.


Back to Earth:
3 Cities Established: Besides 1st city of Olympia, the other two Eternal cities were Polaria (located in Siberia) and Oceana (in the Pacific).

Distinguishment from Greek Pantheon: Olympia, located in the mountains of Greece, near the main portal between the Earth dimension and the Olympians' home dimension, which lead many ancient Greeks to confuse some of the godlike Eternals with members of the Olympian pantheon. Eventually, an agreement was reached with the gods where some Eternals, such as Thena, would impersonate the Olympians before their worshipers.







18000 Years Ago Celestials Re-visited Earth for 2nd Time

Great Cataclysm: Deviants (whose civilization peaked around this time period) attacked Celestials resulting in Celestials countering sinking Lemuria and remaining remnants of Atlantis (destroyed mostly anyway due to war with Lemuria) and Mu and lots chaos worldwide. (As gets away from focus on Eternals, just see "Great Cataclysm" section on following link for more info. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Atlantis) Eternals helped rescue many humans at this time and Valkin entrusted by Celestials with artifact of great power.

Many Years Later: Ikaris and crew in conflict with mutant Apokolips.







The 3rd Host of Celestials Arrive:
The 3rd Arrival of Celestial Host:

Around the 10th Century, the Council of Godheads of Earth met with the Third Host of Celestials with the Eternal Ajak speaking for the Celestials. A pact of non-interference with humanity was agreed upon by the Celestials, Earth's Godheads, the Eternals and the Deviants until the arrival of the Fourth Host. The Eternals and the Deviants formed a truce until the Celestials' return.https://comicvine.gamespot.com/eternals/4060-13344/

Who Are the "Council of Godheads" mentioned above?

The Council of Godheads is an organization comprised of the heads/rulers, usually the sky-fathers, of the many respective mythological pantheons of gods worshiped by the Earth's various cultures. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/council-of-godheads/4060-48159/

Around Time of This Meeting Thor saw some Eternals:

1,000 years ago, the Asgardian god Thor encountered some Eternals, but the encounter was erased from his mind, to prevent him from learning about the Celestials, who were about to return to Earth. An Eternal named Ajak became the Celestials' spokesperson, and put himself to sleep when the Celestials left, to wait for their return 1,000 years later to judge humanity.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(comics)

Early 20th century Miscellaneous Information:

A human scientist made contact with the Uranian Eternals and was taken to live with them along with his young son, who would later become Marvel Boy.[20] The Uranians were eventually killed by Deathurge.[21] After World War II, some Eternals allied with humans and Deviants to form the Damocles Foundation, which tried to create a new breed of superhuman to rule Earth.[22] Some Eternals, such as Makkari, were also active as superheroes, or living amongst humans, keeping their true nature hidden. The Eternals also helped to move the Inhumans' city to the Himalayas to keep it hidden.
At some point, Thanos of the Eternals of Titan nearly destroyed their colony, but they rebuilt it, and would help Earth's heroes to oppose him on several occasions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(comics)

Arrival of 4th Host
Typically Celestials visit a planet 4 times; the 4th comes judgement where deem planet as worthwhile or not.

When the Celestials returned to judge the worthiness of their creations a few years ago, the Eternals found themselves clashing with the Deviants again, and decided to publicly reveal their existence to humanity. Zuras feared what would happen if the Celestials judged unfavorably. They encountered Thor again, and were attacked by Thor's father Odin and the Olympian gods, who tried to prevent their interfering with the gods' plans to attack the Celestials. Eventually, the Eternals decided to help the gods and formed a Uni-Mind to assist the Destroyer's assault on the Celestials. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(comics)

After the Fourth Host arrived on Earth and then departed in peace, the other Eternals joined into one last Uni-Mind and travelled into space.?Ikaris, however, stayed on Earth at the behest of his people to protect the humans he cherished so much.
Ikaris now serves as leader of the remaining Earth Eternals.?He views himself as one of humanity’s greatest champions – forever protecting the planet against the plots of the Deviants. http://www.writeups.org/ikaris-eternals-kirby-marvel-comics/

Eternals have for the most part departed Earth. The Terran Eternals have departed their homes in Olympia, Oceana and Polaria in order to explore the universe as the Uni-Mind, leaving a handful of adventurers and renegades behind. An External outpost on Saturn's moon Titan is ruled by Mentor, father of Starfox and Thanos.http://classicmarvelforever.com/cms/eternals.html

Popular Eternal Characters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(comics)
First Generation Eternal (those born before the fall of Titanos): Arlok, Astron, Daina, Kronos/Chronos/Chronus, Master Elo, Oceanus, Shastra, Thyrio, Uranos.

Second Generation Eternal (those alive at the time of Chronus's experiment): A'lars, Amaa, Cybele, Forgotten One/Gilgamesh, Helios, Perse, Rakar, Tulayn, Valkin, Virako, Zuras.

Third Generation Eternal (those born after Chronos's experiment but before the Second Host): Aginar, Ajak, Arex, Atlo, Domo, Ikaris, Interloper, Mara, Phastos, Sigmar, Thanos, Thena, Veron, Zarin.

Fourth Generation Eternal (those born after the coming of the Second Host, 20,000 years ago): Argos, Ceyote, Chi Demon, the Delphan brothers, Druig, Khoryphos, Makkari, Psykos, Sersi, Kingo Sunen, El Vampiro.

Fifth Generation Eternal (those born after the coming of the Third Host, 3,000 years ago): Aurelle, Sprite, Titanis.

 

[Dasher10]

Having at least one curve ball franchise would be consistent with the studio's previous output.

Just because they have the X-Men again doesn't mean they need to stop using lesser known characters.

I agree. Guardians and Ant-Man were both films which found an audience despite being virtually unknown properties.

 

[VenomsMom]

Being virtually unknown means squat to Marvel these days. Its the brand that sells now. They could make Eternals just as big as Xmen since its a new and fresh concept.

 

[Uncanny1]

Sersi was a member of the East Coast Avenger team in the 90s.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Gonna be real, I'd love to see obscure marvel flicks like this. But truthfully, only if they bump it up to 4 a year.

I can't see it being feasible otherwise. Not when I'm already so invested in Doctor Strange, Black Panther and Spider-Man sequels as well as eventually seeing the F4 and Doom.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Eternals is also something if it ended up 1 and done, I would be less mad about. But I would like to see it.