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It's interesting that the first issue of the Carnage story and the first issue of Sins Past were both avaible online but they're both a couple of the highest selling issues.
Didn't everyone call Marvel stupid for putting those issues online?
Didn't everyone call Marvel stupid for putting those issues online?
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September numbers:
Sep Ultimate Spider-Man #65 - 94,174 ( -0.5%)
Almost no change from last month. ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN sales tend to fluctuate all over the place; at the moment, it's at the lower end of its usual range, but it's come back before. Wolverine guest stars in October; guest appearances don't usually do much to boost sales any more, but it'll be interesting to see whether things work any differently for the Ultimate books.
Sep Amazing Spider-Man #512 - 87,236 ( -1.0%)
For all the controversy, the sales increase from "Sins Past" has been relatively modest - 4.3% on six months ago, and still down on a year ago. Once you get past the big number for issue #509 (which was boosted by a Director's Cut edition), the orders for following issues are certainly respectable, but hardly Big Event numbers of the sort that we've seen from AVENGERS or IDENTITY CRISIS.
Of course, it remains to be seen how audiences will react to the Gwen Stacy revelations in issue #512, which have received a somewhat mixed reaction. My instinct is that this is not a storyline, or a controversy, which is likely to attract substantial numbers of new readers to the book. Gwen Stacy is a character who was killed off in 1973, before most of the current audience were born. I doubt most of them could care less about melodramatic revisals to her history. I suspect they'll see the whole thing as drearily backward-looking. Besides, it's very uncommon for readers to join a story in progress, these days.
But we shall see.
Sep Marvel Knights Spider-Man #6 - 71,492 ( -5.4%)
Oh well, so much for the book levelling out. Still, these numbers aren't anywhere near as alarming as the early drops - no need to get too concerned about this. It's obviously not going to be the top performer Marvel might have originally been hoping, but it's still got plenty of potential to settle to decent sales.
Sep Spectacular Spider-Man #19 - 51,874 ( -0.8%)
Still tying in to Avengers Disassembled, at least nominally - but it's making no significant difference to sales. Nor should it, since it's now embarrassingly obvious that most of the Avengers Disassembled "tie-ins" - especially this one - have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
There were issues during CRISIS known as Red Skies crossovers - issues marketed as crossovers in order to boost sales, which turned out to have no connection other than a very passing mention of the Crisis. These are Red Skies crossovers of the worst sort. Some of them are closer to Blue Skies crossovers, to be honest. Readers who picked up these titles expecting an Avengers Disassembled tie-in could be forgiven for feeling that they've been had.
Sep Spider-Man Unlimited #5 - 24,156 ( -8.9%)
Levelling out, I suppose, but the drops are still too big, and it's down below the cancellation mark. How long are Marvel going to stick with this one?
Sep Spider-Man/Dr Octopus: Year One #3 (of 5) - 22,653 (-16.5%)
A stiff drop after a two month absence. (Bet they're wishing they hadn't shipped both of the first two issues in June now.)
Sep Spider-Girl #78 - 22,076 ( +1.5%)
Looks like SPIDER-GIRL might actually be holding on to some of its anniversary boost from issue #75, against all trends.
6 month changes
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+67.7% - Avengers
+39.3% - New X-Men / New Mutants
+32.0% - Powers
+21.2% - Thor
+11.0% - Iron Man
+ 8.6% - Uncanny X-Men
+ 6.7% - Spider-Girl
+ 4.3% - Amazing Spider-Man
+ 3.9% - Daredevil
+ 2.9% - Ultimate Spider-Man
+ 0.9% - Weapon X
- 2.1% - Ultimate X-Men
- 2.2% - Fantastic Four
- 3.1% - Spectacular Spider-Man
- 3.2% - Incredible Hulk
- 3.5% - Exiles
- 4.3% - Runaways
- 5.2% - Captain America
- 6.5% - Punisher
-12.3% - Venom
-14.6% - Wolverine: The End
-16.0% - Marvel Knights 4
-16.5% - Mystique
-16.9% - Pulse / Alias
-19.1% - Emma Frost
-19.2% - Ultimate Fantastic Four
-20.4% - Wolverine
-23.3% - X-Men
-25.6% - Silver Surfer
-26.7% - She-Hulk
-30.1% - Thor: Son of Asgard
-30.4% - Captain America & The Falcon
-35.7% - Cable/Deadpool
-35.7% - Spider-Man Unlimited
-45.3% - Alpha Flight
-57.5% - Marvel Age Spider-Man
1 year changes
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+58.1% - Avengers
+37.0% - Pulse
+25.7% - Powers
+19.0% - Punisher
+17.1% - New X-Men
+15.4% - Thor
+ 8.2% - Iron Man
- 1.6% - Spider-Girl
- 1.9% - Uncanny X-Men
- 5.2% - Daredevil
- 5.5% - Amazing Spider-Man
- 6.4% - Weapon X
- 7.1% - Runaways
- 9.2% - Fantastic Four
-10.7% - Ultimate Spider-Man
-11.3% - X-Men
-12.6% - Ultimate X-Men
-12.9% - Exiles
-14.2% - Captain America
-20.4% - Wolverine
-24.4% - Incredible Hulk
-30.4% - Spectacular Spider-Man
-34.1% - Mystique
-36.8% - Emma Frost
-47.2% - Venom
-57.6% - Silver Surfer
Sep Ultimate Spider-Man #65 - 94,174 ( -0.5%)
Almost no change from last month. ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN sales tend to fluctuate all over the place; at the moment, it's at the lower end of its usual range, but it's come back before. Wolverine guest stars in October; guest appearances don't usually do much to boost sales any more, but it'll be interesting to see whether things work any differently for the Ultimate books.
Sep Amazing Spider-Man #512 - 87,236 ( -1.0%)
For all the controversy, the sales increase from "Sins Past" has been relatively modest - 4.3% on six months ago, and still down on a year ago. Once you get past the big number for issue #509 (which was boosted by a Director's Cut edition), the orders for following issues are certainly respectable, but hardly Big Event numbers of the sort that we've seen from AVENGERS or IDENTITY CRISIS.
Of course, it remains to be seen how audiences will react to the Gwen Stacy revelations in issue #512, which have received a somewhat mixed reaction. My instinct is that this is not a storyline, or a controversy, which is likely to attract substantial numbers of new readers to the book. Gwen Stacy is a character who was killed off in 1973, before most of the current audience were born. I doubt most of them could care less about melodramatic revisals to her history. I suspect they'll see the whole thing as drearily backward-looking. Besides, it's very uncommon for readers to join a story in progress, these days.
But we shall see.
Sep Marvel Knights Spider-Man #6 - 71,492 ( -5.4%)
Oh well, so much for the book levelling out. Still, these numbers aren't anywhere near as alarming as the early drops - no need to get too concerned about this. It's obviously not going to be the top performer Marvel might have originally been hoping, but it's still got plenty of potential to settle to decent sales.
Sep Spectacular Spider-Man #19 - 51,874 ( -0.8%)
Still tying in to Avengers Disassembled, at least nominally - but it's making no significant difference to sales. Nor should it, since it's now embarrassingly obvious that most of the Avengers Disassembled "tie-ins" - especially this one - have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
There were issues during CRISIS known as Red Skies crossovers - issues marketed as crossovers in order to boost sales, which turned out to have no connection other than a very passing mention of the Crisis. These are Red Skies crossovers of the worst sort. Some of them are closer to Blue Skies crossovers, to be honest. Readers who picked up these titles expecting an Avengers Disassembled tie-in could be forgiven for feeling that they've been had.
Sep Spider-Man Unlimited #5 - 24,156 ( -8.9%)
Levelling out, I suppose, but the drops are still too big, and it's down below the cancellation mark. How long are Marvel going to stick with this one?
Sep Spider-Man/Dr Octopus: Year One #3 (of 5) - 22,653 (-16.5%)
A stiff drop after a two month absence. (Bet they're wishing they hadn't shipped both of the first two issues in June now.)
Sep Spider-Girl #78 - 22,076 ( +1.5%)
Looks like SPIDER-GIRL might actually be holding on to some of its anniversary boost from issue #75, against all trends.
6 month changes
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+67.7% - Avengers
+39.3% - New X-Men / New Mutants
+32.0% - Powers
+21.2% - Thor
+11.0% - Iron Man
+ 8.6% - Uncanny X-Men
+ 6.7% - Spider-Girl
+ 4.3% - Amazing Spider-Man
+ 3.9% - Daredevil
+ 2.9% - Ultimate Spider-Man
+ 0.9% - Weapon X
- 2.1% - Ultimate X-Men
- 2.2% - Fantastic Four
- 3.1% - Spectacular Spider-Man
- 3.2% - Incredible Hulk
- 3.5% - Exiles
- 4.3% - Runaways
- 5.2% - Captain America
- 6.5% - Punisher
-12.3% - Venom
-14.6% - Wolverine: The End
-16.0% - Marvel Knights 4
-16.5% - Mystique
-16.9% - Pulse / Alias
-19.1% - Emma Frost
-19.2% - Ultimate Fantastic Four
-20.4% - Wolverine
-23.3% - X-Men
-25.6% - Silver Surfer
-26.7% - She-Hulk
-30.1% - Thor: Son of Asgard
-30.4% - Captain America & The Falcon
-35.7% - Cable/Deadpool
-35.7% - Spider-Man Unlimited
-45.3% - Alpha Flight
-57.5% - Marvel Age Spider-Man
1 year changes
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+58.1% - Avengers
+37.0% - Pulse
+25.7% - Powers
+19.0% - Punisher
+17.1% - New X-Men
+15.4% - Thor
+ 8.2% - Iron Man
- 1.6% - Spider-Girl
- 1.9% - Uncanny X-Men
- 5.2% - Daredevil
- 5.5% - Amazing Spider-Man
- 6.4% - Weapon X
- 7.1% - Runaways
- 9.2% - Fantastic Four
-10.7% - Ultimate Spider-Man
-11.3% - X-Men
-12.6% - Ultimate X-Men
-12.9% - Exiles
-14.2% - Captain America
-20.4% - Wolverine
-24.4% - Incredible Hulk
-30.4% - Spectacular Spider-Man
-34.1% - Mystique
-36.8% - Emma Frost
-47.2% - Venom
-57.6% - Silver Surfer
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Wow, glad I dropped Alpha Flight at #1.
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hopefully spectacular gets better after the dissassembled storyline.
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Man, those Spider-Girl figures are DISMAL. Shame, too, because that book is so good it should be doing three, four TIMES that, easily.
The Hell's wrong with you guys? You're missing out on one of the best comics on the shelf, imo.
The Hell's wrong with you guys? You're missing out on one of the best comics on the shelf, imo.
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i wonder how the sale of trade paperbacks affect these numbers. cos if sales of a series are going down but the trades collecting those issues are going up then it could just be a shift in the format people read their comics in.
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Its a Spidey book. Unfortunately it suffers from the same condition that the X-books do. Blind loyalty from fans. The completists.
The reason why a bad book can out sell a good book. Branding and sheep.
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Aloha,masteryoda said:It's interesting that the first issue of the Carnage story and the first issue of Sins Past were both avaible online but they're both a couple of the highest selling issues.
Didn't everyone call Marvel stupid for putting those issues online?
Unlike the record Industry, the comics industry, Marvel in particular has discovered that with comics on line, sales actually increase.Reading the comic on line is fun, then a new or true collector MUST HAVE the hard copy. Either as a comic or trade.
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Aloha,CaptainStacy said:
No accounting for taste.They should give out free copies of Spider-Girl to the Boys and Girls Clubs, Girl Scouts, etc. You have got to prime the pump now a days when it comes to reading anything.Better yet, they should start selling comic books in Video game stores.We need a new generation of fanatics.
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7 ,9. ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #47 - 99,662 ( -5.5%)
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #48 - 98,747 ( -0.9%)
Nov Ultimate Spider-Man #49 - 96,707 ( -2.1%)
Dec Ultimate Spider-Man #50 - 109,819 (+13.6%)
Dec Ultimate Spider-Man #51 - 98,085 (-10.7%)
Jan Ultimate Spider-Man #52 - 95,854 ( -2.3%)
Feb Ultimate Spider-Man #53 - 92,540 ( -3.5%)
Mar Ultimate Spider-Man #54 - 93,025 ( +5.2%)
Mar Ultimate Spider-Man #55 - 91,525 ( -1.6%)
Apr Ultimate Spider-Man #56 - 91,585 ( +0.1%)
Apr Ultimate Spider-Man #57 - 90,784 ( -0.9%)
May Ultimate Spider-Man #58 - 90,963 ( +0.2%)
May Ultimate Spider-Man #59 - 89,863 ( -1.2%)
Jun Ultimate Spider-Man #60 - 104,789 (+16.6%)
Jun Ultimate Spider-Man #61 - 101,159 ( -3.5%)
Jul Ultimate Spider-Man #62 - 98,963 ( -2.2%)
Aug Ultimate Spider-Man #63 - 96,279 ( -2.7%)
Aug Ultimate Spider-Man #64 - 94,682 ( -1.7%)
Sep Ultimate Spider-Man #65 - 94,174 ( -0.5%)
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #66 - 95,917 ( +1.9%)
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #67 - 95,071 ( -0.9%)
6 mnth ( +4.7%)
1 year ( -4.6%)
Remaining very solid indeed in the 95K range.
11. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN
Oct Amazing Spider-Man #500 - 148,928 (+61.4%)
Nov Amazing Spider-Man #501 - 94,558 (-36.5%)
Dec Amazing Spider-Man #502 - 90,484 ( -4.3%)
Jan Amazing Spider-Man #503 - 87,341 ( -3.5%)
Feb Amazing Spider-Man #504 - 84,064 ( -3.7%)
Mar Amazing Spider-Man #505 - 83,613 ( -0.5%)
Apr Amazing Spider-Man #506 - 83,152 ( -0.6%)
May Amazing Spider-Man #507 - 81,944 ( -1.5%)
Jun Amazing Spider-Man #508 - 82,268 ( +0.4%)
Jun Amazing Spider-Man #509 - 101,632 (+23.5%)
Jul Amazing Spider-Man #510 - 86,181 (-15.2%)
Aug Amazing Spider-Man #511 - 88,118 ( +2.2%)
Sep Amazing Spider-Man #512 - 88,628 ( +0.6%)
Oct Amazing Spider-Man #513 - 89,615 ( +1.1%)
6 mnth ( +7.8%)
1 year (-39.8%)
Issue #512 charts at number 271 with reorders of 1,392, which are included in the numbers above. That turns issue #512 into a marginal climber, and shows the title edging up over the last few months. These aren't particularly big climbs, but in fairness, any book which is consistently going up from month to month is bucking the trends, and must be doing something right.
17. MARVEL KNIGHTS SPIDER-MAN
Apr Marvel Knights Spider-Man #1 - 137,314
May Marvel Knights Spider-Man #2 - 99,320 (-27.7%)
Jun Marvel Knights Spider-Man #3 - 82,715 (-16.7%)
Jul Marvel Knights Spider-Man #4 - 75,508 ( -8.7%)
Aug Marvel Knights Spider-Man #5 - 75,562 ( +0.1%)
Sep Marvel Knights Spider-Man #6 - 71,492 ( -5.4%)
Oct Marvel Knights Spider-Man #7 - 69,918 ( -2.2%)
6 mnth (-49.1%)
Seems to be levelling out in the high 60K range. The six-month drop is a comparison with issue #1, so it's not as horrible as it looks - most of that drop came in the first two issues.
22. SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN
Oct Spectacular Spider-Man #5 - 71,665 ( -3.8%)
Nov Spectacular Spider-Man #6 - 67,633 ( -5.6%)
Nov Spectacular Spider-Man #7 - 66,065 ( -2.3%)
Dec Spectacular Spider-Man #8 - 62,721 ( -0.6%)
Jan Spectacular Spider-Man #9 - 58,711 ( -6.4%)
Feb Spectacular Spider-Man #10 - 55,746 ( -5.1%)
Mar Spectacular Spider-Man #11 - 54,066 ( -3.0%)
Mar Spectacular Spider-Man #12 - 53,549 ( -1.0%)
Apr Spectacular Spider-Man #13 - 52,835 ( -1.3%)
May Spectacular Spider-Man #14 - 51,036 ( -3.4%)
Jun Spectacular Spider-Man #15 - 50,997 ( -0.0%)
Jun Spectacular Spider-Man #16 - 50,515 ( -0.9%)
Jul Spectacular Spider-Man #17 - 51,335 ( +1.6%)
Aug Spectacular Spider-Man #18 - 52,271 ( +1.8%)
Sep Spectacular Spider-Man #19 - 51,874 ( -0.8%)
Oct Spectacular Spider-Man #20 - 51,159 ( -1.4%)
6 mnth ( -3.2%)
1 year (-28.6%)
Axed with issue #27, following the departure of Paul Jenkins. Most of the remaining issues are a "Sins Past" tie-in written by one of J Michael Straczynski's proteges; since AMAZING outsells this book by 38,000, the plot tie-in is bound to raise sales substantially.
83. AMAZING FANTASY
Jun Amazing Fantasy #1 - 62,056
Jul n/a
Aug Amazing Fantasy #2 - 37,047 (-40.3%)
Aug Amazing Fantasy #3 - 33,917 ( -8.4%)
Sep Amazing Fantasy #4 - 30,325 (-10.6%)
Oct Amazing Fantasy #5 - 26,349 (-13.1%)
Marvel continue to talk about this book as if it were a hit of some sort, but let's be realistic. These are awful numbers for a book which has been so heavily promoted, and it's still shedding over 10% of its audience each month. Of course, Marvel are pinning their hopes on it performing well in digest format, which is still a possibility. But the digest isn't out yet. At this stage, ARANA is a hit precisely nowhere.
Bizarrely, AMAZING FANTASY is scheduled to continue in the spring as a vehicle for unidentified creators to revamp B-list Spider-Man villains. Does this actually sound like a winning concept to anyone?
103. SPIDER-GIRL
Oct Spider-Girl #65 - 22,561 ( +0.5%)
Nov Spider-Girl #66 - 21,864 ( +0.3%)
Dec Spider-Girl #67 - 21,403 ( -2.1%)
Jan Spider-Girl #68 - 20,544 ( -4.0%)
Jan Spider-Girl #69 - 20,384 ( -0.8%)
Feb Spider-Girl #70 - 20,541 ( +0.8%)
Mar Spider-Girl #71 - 20,709 ( +0.8%)
Apr Spider-Girl #72 - 20,533 ( -0.8%)
May Spider-Girl #73 - 20,275 ( -1.3%)
May Spider-Girl #74 - 19,959 ( -1.6%)
Jun Spider-Girl #75 - 24,674 (+23.6%)
Jul Spider-Girl #76 - 22,157 (-10.2%)
Aug Spider-Girl #77 - 21,758 ( -1.8%)
Sep Spider-Girl #78 - 22,076 ( +1.5%)
Oct Spider-Girl #79 - 21,893 ( -0.8%)
6 mnth ( +6.6%)
1 year ( -3.0%)
A Marvel Age title, so it gets leeway despite being below the normal cancellation point. Solid sales, as ever.
6 month changes
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+60.2% - Thor
+38.3% - New X-Men / New Mutants
+29.9% - Powers
+17.9% - Wolverine
+16.2% - Iron Man
+13.4% - Uncanny X-Men
+ 7.8% - Amazing Spider-Man
+ 6.6% - Spider-Girl
+ 4.7% - Ultimate Spider-Man
- 2.3% - Daredevil
- 2.5% - Ultimate X-Men
- 3.2% - Spectacular Spider-Man
- 3.3% - Captain America
- 3.5% - NYX
- 5.9% - Secret War
- 6.7% - Exiles
- 9.4% - Fantastic Four
-10.3% - X-Men / New X-Men
-14.3% - Punisher
-17.9% - Mystique
-18.6% - Marvel Knights 4
-19.0% - She-Hulk
-19.2% - Emma Frost
-19.9% - Incredible Hulk
-22.7% - X-Men Unlimited
-24.2% - Captain America & The Falcon
-24.4% - Silver Surfer
-26.6% - Cable/Deadpool
-26.8% - Thor: Son of Asgard
-39.9% - Alpha Flight
-49.1% - Marvel Knights Spider-Man
-53.6% - Marvel Age Spider-Man
-66.3% - Marvel Age Fantastic Four
1 year changes
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+49.6% - Thor
+23.7% - Powers
+10.5% - New X-Men / New Mutants
+ 5.4% - Uncanny X-Men
+ 1.8% - Wolverine
- 0.1% - Punisher
- 1.9% - Iron Man
- 3.0% - Spider-Girl
- 4.6% - Ultimate Spider-Man
- 9.2% - Fantastic Four
- 9.4% - Daredevil
-11.9% - Captain America
-13.2% - Ultimate X-Men
-13.3% - Exiles
-16.1% - X-Men / New X-Men
-28.6% - Spectacular Spider-Man
-32.4% - Incredible Hulk
-34.7% - NYX
-36.8% - Emma Frost
-38.4% - Mystique
-39.8% - Amazing Spider-Man
-59.2% - Silver Surfer
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #47 - 99,662 ( -5.5%)
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #48 - 98,747 ( -0.9%)
Nov Ultimate Spider-Man #49 - 96,707 ( -2.1%)
Dec Ultimate Spider-Man #50 - 109,819 (+13.6%)
Dec Ultimate Spider-Man #51 - 98,085 (-10.7%)
Jan Ultimate Spider-Man #52 - 95,854 ( -2.3%)
Feb Ultimate Spider-Man #53 - 92,540 ( -3.5%)
Mar Ultimate Spider-Man #54 - 93,025 ( +5.2%)
Mar Ultimate Spider-Man #55 - 91,525 ( -1.6%)
Apr Ultimate Spider-Man #56 - 91,585 ( +0.1%)
Apr Ultimate Spider-Man #57 - 90,784 ( -0.9%)
May Ultimate Spider-Man #58 - 90,963 ( +0.2%)
May Ultimate Spider-Man #59 - 89,863 ( -1.2%)
Jun Ultimate Spider-Man #60 - 104,789 (+16.6%)
Jun Ultimate Spider-Man #61 - 101,159 ( -3.5%)
Jul Ultimate Spider-Man #62 - 98,963 ( -2.2%)
Aug Ultimate Spider-Man #63 - 96,279 ( -2.7%)
Aug Ultimate Spider-Man #64 - 94,682 ( -1.7%)
Sep Ultimate Spider-Man #65 - 94,174 ( -0.5%)
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #66 - 95,917 ( +1.9%)
Oct Ultimate Spider-Man #67 - 95,071 ( -0.9%)
6 mnth ( +4.7%)
1 year ( -4.6%)
Remaining very solid indeed in the 95K range.
11. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN
Oct Amazing Spider-Man #500 - 148,928 (+61.4%)
Nov Amazing Spider-Man #501 - 94,558 (-36.5%)
Dec Amazing Spider-Man #502 - 90,484 ( -4.3%)
Jan Amazing Spider-Man #503 - 87,341 ( -3.5%)
Feb Amazing Spider-Man #504 - 84,064 ( -3.7%)
Mar Amazing Spider-Man #505 - 83,613 ( -0.5%)
Apr Amazing Spider-Man #506 - 83,152 ( -0.6%)
May Amazing Spider-Man #507 - 81,944 ( -1.5%)
Jun Amazing Spider-Man #508 - 82,268 ( +0.4%)
Jun Amazing Spider-Man #509 - 101,632 (+23.5%)
Jul Amazing Spider-Man #510 - 86,181 (-15.2%)
Aug Amazing Spider-Man #511 - 88,118 ( +2.2%)
Sep Amazing Spider-Man #512 - 88,628 ( +0.6%)
Oct Amazing Spider-Man #513 - 89,615 ( +1.1%)
6 mnth ( +7.8%)
1 year (-39.8%)
Issue #512 charts at number 271 with reorders of 1,392, which are included in the numbers above. That turns issue #512 into a marginal climber, and shows the title edging up over the last few months. These aren't particularly big climbs, but in fairness, any book which is consistently going up from month to month is bucking the trends, and must be doing something right.
17. MARVEL KNIGHTS SPIDER-MAN
Apr Marvel Knights Spider-Man #1 - 137,314
May Marvel Knights Spider-Man #2 - 99,320 (-27.7%)
Jun Marvel Knights Spider-Man #3 - 82,715 (-16.7%)
Jul Marvel Knights Spider-Man #4 - 75,508 ( -8.7%)
Aug Marvel Knights Spider-Man #5 - 75,562 ( +0.1%)
Sep Marvel Knights Spider-Man #6 - 71,492 ( -5.4%)
Oct Marvel Knights Spider-Man #7 - 69,918 ( -2.2%)
6 mnth (-49.1%)
Seems to be levelling out in the high 60K range. The six-month drop is a comparison with issue #1, so it's not as horrible as it looks - most of that drop came in the first two issues.
22. SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN
Oct Spectacular Spider-Man #5 - 71,665 ( -3.8%)
Nov Spectacular Spider-Man #6 - 67,633 ( -5.6%)
Nov Spectacular Spider-Man #7 - 66,065 ( -2.3%)
Dec Spectacular Spider-Man #8 - 62,721 ( -0.6%)
Jan Spectacular Spider-Man #9 - 58,711 ( -6.4%)
Feb Spectacular Spider-Man #10 - 55,746 ( -5.1%)
Mar Spectacular Spider-Man #11 - 54,066 ( -3.0%)
Mar Spectacular Spider-Man #12 - 53,549 ( -1.0%)
Apr Spectacular Spider-Man #13 - 52,835 ( -1.3%)
May Spectacular Spider-Man #14 - 51,036 ( -3.4%)
Jun Spectacular Spider-Man #15 - 50,997 ( -0.0%)
Jun Spectacular Spider-Man #16 - 50,515 ( -0.9%)
Jul Spectacular Spider-Man #17 - 51,335 ( +1.6%)
Aug Spectacular Spider-Man #18 - 52,271 ( +1.8%)
Sep Spectacular Spider-Man #19 - 51,874 ( -0.8%)
Oct Spectacular Spider-Man #20 - 51,159 ( -1.4%)
6 mnth ( -3.2%)
1 year (-28.6%)
Axed with issue #27, following the departure of Paul Jenkins. Most of the remaining issues are a "Sins Past" tie-in written by one of J Michael Straczynski's proteges; since AMAZING outsells this book by 38,000, the plot tie-in is bound to raise sales substantially.
83. AMAZING FANTASY
Jun Amazing Fantasy #1 - 62,056
Jul n/a
Aug Amazing Fantasy #2 - 37,047 (-40.3%)
Aug Amazing Fantasy #3 - 33,917 ( -8.4%)
Sep Amazing Fantasy #4 - 30,325 (-10.6%)
Oct Amazing Fantasy #5 - 26,349 (-13.1%)
Marvel continue to talk about this book as if it were a hit of some sort, but let's be realistic. These are awful numbers for a book which has been so heavily promoted, and it's still shedding over 10% of its audience each month. Of course, Marvel are pinning their hopes on it performing well in digest format, which is still a possibility. But the digest isn't out yet. At this stage, ARANA is a hit precisely nowhere.
Bizarrely, AMAZING FANTASY is scheduled to continue in the spring as a vehicle for unidentified creators to revamp B-list Spider-Man villains. Does this actually sound like a winning concept to anyone?
103. SPIDER-GIRL
Oct Spider-Girl #65 - 22,561 ( +0.5%)
Nov Spider-Girl #66 - 21,864 ( +0.3%)
Dec Spider-Girl #67 - 21,403 ( -2.1%)
Jan Spider-Girl #68 - 20,544 ( -4.0%)
Jan Spider-Girl #69 - 20,384 ( -0.8%)
Feb Spider-Girl #70 - 20,541 ( +0.8%)
Mar Spider-Girl #71 - 20,709 ( +0.8%)
Apr Spider-Girl #72 - 20,533 ( -0.8%)
May Spider-Girl #73 - 20,275 ( -1.3%)
May Spider-Girl #74 - 19,959 ( -1.6%)
Jun Spider-Girl #75 - 24,674 (+23.6%)
Jul Spider-Girl #76 - 22,157 (-10.2%)
Aug Spider-Girl #77 - 21,758 ( -1.8%)
Sep Spider-Girl #78 - 22,076 ( +1.5%)
Oct Spider-Girl #79 - 21,893 ( -0.8%)
6 mnth ( +6.6%)
1 year ( -3.0%)
A Marvel Age title, so it gets leeway despite being below the normal cancellation point. Solid sales, as ever.
6 month changes
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+60.2% - Thor
+38.3% - New X-Men / New Mutants
+29.9% - Powers
+17.9% - Wolverine
+16.2% - Iron Man
+13.4% - Uncanny X-Men
+ 7.8% - Amazing Spider-Man
+ 6.6% - Spider-Girl
+ 4.7% - Ultimate Spider-Man
- 2.3% - Daredevil
- 2.5% - Ultimate X-Men
- 3.2% - Spectacular Spider-Man
- 3.3% - Captain America
- 3.5% - NYX
- 5.9% - Secret War
- 6.7% - Exiles
- 9.4% - Fantastic Four
-10.3% - X-Men / New X-Men
-14.3% - Punisher
-17.9% - Mystique
-18.6% - Marvel Knights 4
-19.0% - She-Hulk
-19.2% - Emma Frost
-19.9% - Incredible Hulk
-22.7% - X-Men Unlimited
-24.2% - Captain America & The Falcon
-24.4% - Silver Surfer
-26.6% - Cable/Deadpool
-26.8% - Thor: Son of Asgard
-39.9% - Alpha Flight
-49.1% - Marvel Knights Spider-Man
-53.6% - Marvel Age Spider-Man
-66.3% - Marvel Age Fantastic Four
1 year changes
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+49.6% - Thor
+23.7% - Powers
+10.5% - New X-Men / New Mutants
+ 5.4% - Uncanny X-Men
+ 1.8% - Wolverine
- 0.1% - Punisher
- 1.9% - Iron Man
- 3.0% - Spider-Girl
- 4.6% - Ultimate Spider-Man
- 9.2% - Fantastic Four
- 9.4% - Daredevil
-11.9% - Captain America
-13.2% - Ultimate X-Men
-13.3% - Exiles
-16.1% - X-Men / New X-Men
-28.6% - Spectacular Spider-Man
-32.4% - Incredible Hulk
-34.7% - NYX
-36.8% - Emma Frost
-38.4% - Mystique
-39.8% - Amazing Spider-Man
-59.2% - Silver Surfer
Adrian_Tepes
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That just proves more people can't resist a good car crash.
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I really think Sins Past is doing so well because of two groups of people:
1) The ASM fans:
These are the people who don't want to drop ASm for anythign in the world, so they keep on getting it, whether they feel it is good or not.
2) The Collectors.:
These are the people that buy books solely for the purpose of making money off of them later. They heard about the controversy, and they decided to pick it up in case it gained value down the road.
Then you have these people (most of this board, including myself):
The fans:
These are the people who hate seeing the comics and their characters ripped apart in the name of sales. They bicker, b****, and complain in the hopes that maybe people will listen, and quit rewarding people for butchering their favorite characters.
I really think it's a shame that MKSM has dropped the way that it has. I suppose the heftier price tag isn't helping it out, but it also means that it is still making the money that ASM is, even if it isn't selling the same number of copies. The book is still quite profitable.
1) The ASM fans:
These are the people who don't want to drop ASm for anythign in the world, so they keep on getting it, whether they feel it is good or not.
2) The Collectors.:
These are the people that buy books solely for the purpose of making money off of them later. They heard about the controversy, and they decided to pick it up in case it gained value down the road.
Then you have these people (most of this board, including myself):
The fans:
These are the people who hate seeing the comics and their characters ripped apart in the name of sales. They bicker, b****, and complain in the hopes that maybe people will listen, and quit rewarding people for butchering their favorite characters.
I really think it's a shame that MKSM has dropped the way that it has. I suppose the heftier price tag isn't helping it out, but it also means that it is still making the money that ASM is, even if it isn't selling the same number of copies. The book is still quite profitable.
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Adrian_Tepes said:
Yes but this as a long term sales tactic is not realistic.
The only thing that will keep sustained long term high sales,- is good old fashioned great writing. Something ASM is sorely lacking right now.
This car crash mentality of Marvels is gonna burn itself out and then Marvel will be left w/ a fan backlash the likes of which have not been seen since the mid-nineties and continuity in disarray.
Marvels current company policy is a time bomb waiting to implode.
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Agreed.dangerous' said:
That's why I advocated boycotting the other items not the comics per se.
If the fans stop buying the Spiderman video games, plushies, shirts, etc...
Then the retailers stop seeing a big return on their license to use the characters. That in turn causes them to pay less for the rights to use that particular character.
As things stand now, it will take years for Marvel to notice or to even feel the effects of a fan backlash. By that time, the damage done will be considerable.
Attacking their primary source of income however, will get their attention MUCH quicker.
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Amazing is the best Spidey comic right now, cannot wait for the next issue -524.
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I never realized how low Spider-girl's numbers were (relatively). Fans better start convincing their friends to buy this title, because I don't think Marvel will support this title forever.
Also, the "novelty" of any Ultimate title has long since worn off, and it is consistently even with or outperforming Amazing (Is this the same with the other Ultimate titles- FF,Avengers, X-men?) I am VERY curious to see if USM will maintain those numbers through a creative team change. I would suspect that they won't. They better get Ult Peter to move on to college before that happens. I don't see much interesting happening there, other than Bendis (and honestly, I think it's his worst title. I've been waiting for almost 70 issues for something to happen.)
It's always funny to look through these lists and see the "jump" that they get for "anniversary" and 1st issues. You can complain all you want about it being bad policy, but you can't deny that there is a significant jump. And hey, if you keep giving your alcoholic brother a drink, when does it begin to be your fault?
Also, you're aiming your boycott message at the wrong people. People on forums like these (long-time Spidey/comics fans) are not the ones buying all the Spidey merchandise right now (not in numbers that matter anyway). It's all the people who took their kiddies to the movies and have to decorate their rooms now. And those people wouldn't know the difference between a gate-fold foil covered 1st issue revamp from ASM #121. Convince THOSE people to stop buying Spider-man trashcans and then you'll make a difference. Good Luck.
Also, the "novelty" of any Ultimate title has long since worn off, and it is consistently even with or outperforming Amazing (Is this the same with the other Ultimate titles- FF,Avengers, X-men?) I am VERY curious to see if USM will maintain those numbers through a creative team change. I would suspect that they won't. They better get Ult Peter to move on to college before that happens. I don't see much interesting happening there, other than Bendis (and honestly, I think it's his worst title. I've been waiting for almost 70 issues for something to happen.)
It's always funny to look through these lists and see the "jump" that they get for "anniversary" and 1st issues. You can complain all you want about it being bad policy, but you can't deny that there is a significant jump. And hey, if you keep giving your alcoholic brother a drink, when does it begin to be your fault?
Also, you're aiming your boycott message at the wrong people. People on forums like these (long-time Spidey/comics fans) are not the ones buying all the Spidey merchandise right now (not in numbers that matter anyway). It's all the people who took their kiddies to the movies and have to decorate their rooms now. And those people wouldn't know the difference between a gate-fold foil covered 1st issue revamp from ASM #121. Convince THOSE people to stop buying Spider-man trashcans and then you'll make a difference. Good Luck.
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Tell these dads and moms there's cheating going around the current storyarc and that the writer claims that cheating in your partner makes you a stronger person with his own declarations to make the story make sense.
NEXT!
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I encourage everyone to boycott Amazing Fantasy. Unless you advocate the classic Spider-Man rogues gallery created by Lee and Ditko getting "re-vamped" by a bunch of no name wannabes.
I mean, the utter NERVE of some people! It's like Charles ****ing Manson escaped from the nut house, and is currently the CEO at Marvel Comics or something.
I mean, the utter NERVE of some people! It's like Charles ****ing Manson escaped from the nut house, and is currently the CEO at Marvel Comics or something.
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Those people are not a factor, long term wise in the market. They're fad buyers, they buy whatever the fad is. A few years ago, they were buying Pokemon and DBZ for their kids.iloveclones said:
It's the long term fans that hold Marvel's fate in their wallets.
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