The Dark Knight Sancturary for those who dislike the IBIHDT Joker Pic

[Dark Guardian]

I want to put this thread here as a place where those of us who dislike the Joker pic from I Believe in Harvey Dent Too can state our grievances without resorting to "IT SUCKS!" I really would prefer to avoid flaming in here, so if some idiot who does like the pic comes in and shouts "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK, THIS PIC IS AWESOME!" just ignore him. This is here so people can read the various reasons why this pic isn't what some of us expected.

Here's my reasoning:
The scarring - I know Nolan is going for realism, which is fine by me. However, I really would like him to stay true to the comics, and in no way is this image sticking to the source material. The essence of the Joker is a very dapper, stylish guy in a purple suit, who happens to be insane due to being dumped in toxic waste, and who has this unbearably large grin on his face.
He is NOT supposed to be some guy who's face looks like ten miles of Death Valley fire trails.
The point of the Joker is that if you saw him from a distance you might think he's just a happy guy with an interesting fashion sense. This is just going overboard on the realism.

Now, if this were the rough cut version, how the Joker looked just after his accident, and he does manage to clean it up a little, then fine. But if this is the finished product, is this what I have to watch for an hour and a half, some guy who's face looks like it got in a fight with a chainsaw and he smeared lipstick on it to cover it up? Then I'd rather not watch the movie.

 

[wikum]

my only real complaint is not the size of the smile, it's the huge gash on the left hand side of his face. plus the way the right side of his lip melts into the rest of his face.

do i love it? no
can i stand it? just about
am i convinced thats what it's going to look like on film? not yet.

 

[ToddIsDead]

I'm not exactly happy about the look we're getting, but I'll deal. I really just wanted The Joker, and not a guy with a huge gash on his face.

 

[Boom]

I'm on the fence right now.

I will hate the look if:
The carved smile is self-inflicted, and the entire look is self-applied makeup.

I will tolerate the look if:
The carved smile is NOT self-inflicted, and (at least) the skin is naturally bleached white. I would have preferred for everything to be natural, but as long as his white skin is, then I don't mind the red lipstick and green hair dye being self-applied.

 

[Dark Guardian]

I agree with you completely. Its just the messy way that the smile is made that ticks me off.

 

[Steelsheen]

i need to see other photos of it, from another angle and under different lighting conditions. so i'm not sure if i would be a permanent member of this thread. heh.

right now, the whipplashed zip line cord wont be a good enough reason to cause the kind of damage on Joker's face unless after the incident Joker takes a dive head first onto one of the pools of Gotham's Sewerage Treatment Plant to have the kind of infection that would result in a ugly scarring like that.

 

[Dark Guardian]

so i'm not sure if i would be a permanent member of this thread. heh.

Thats ok, part timers are welcome!

 

[millennium movies]

I really hope he will have a different look. I guess to late for that

 

[wikum]

If I see it from another angle or in full costume and I decide I like it, then I will be the first one to say that i was wrong. I get a slight feeling that might happen too.

@ everyone else, does it look to you like his face is exactly like one of those masks, or is it just me?

 

[Dark Guardian]

That would be great if this was just a mask. It would be just like Nolan to give us a scare like this and then cart out something really awesome wouldn't it?

 

[Super Kal]

I still don't know yet... I need to see it in action before I make up my mind.

 

[Cycloptis]

I'm not disliking it, but I'm not entirely convinced either. I get the feeling that we're not getting the whole picture yet. I don't mean that literally, since that much is obvious: we can't see the hair, the teeth or the eyes.

I think to really be convinced one way or the other, I need to see those three things and then know what context this picture is in in the movie.

 

[GoogleMe94]

i too am not quite sure yet. we've only seen a pic so far, and it does indeed look sucky. but that could change once we see it in action. to me, it still looks like a bad fan made manip.

 

[Katsuro]

I'm very unpleased. It seems pointless to me. Why does he need a gash across his face? Why does he have to slobber lipstick on his face in a way that makes him look like he was very messily eating a cherry pie? It's needlessly gruesome.

I also cant imagine him being able to smile with a gash like that.

 

[bstringer]

i am also still undecided, i need to see the hair and suit

 

[Deaths Head II]

I don't like it that much right now, but I'll wait until I see him smile before I decide whether I completely hate it or not.

 

[wikum]

one thing i do like is that even though his makeup is smiling, his real lips are closed (i know they wont be all the time, i mean in the pic).

gives off a very disturbing look.

i have never seen the joker look like this before in any media.

at the moment do i love it? no. in the vote i have it a 6.

 

[RiffDope]

just wait until the movie comes out... wait until you see him in action... the joker is not just about the look... its about who he is... its the personnality of the character the most important... as long as we have a white face, green hair and red lips the looks is all good... and thats what we have here... yeah im not quite excited with the look too... but ill wait until i see him in action before saying that this joker sucks... you cant say the character is going to be bad just because of only ONE picture... you need to see more and especially you need to see him in action... when the movie or clips will come out thats where we will get to see if we have the joker from the comic
Riff

 

[batman7289]

pointless thread. close

 

[Steelsheen]

I also cant imagine him being able to smile with a gash like that.

smile? i couldnt even think of how he can talk properly without some kind of speech impediment. from the looks of the photo, the lower left corner of his lips are gone.

 

[ToddIsDead]

pointless thread. close

Not quite, since you can't post a dissenting opinion in the other two threads without a thousand jackasses jumping down your throat for not agreeing with the masses.

 

[Dark Guardian]

pointless thread. close

I beg to differ, as you can see we are having a very dedicated, calm and purposeful discussion. Join it or leave please.

 

[Boom]

pointless thread. close

I don't see how. There's a thread in the Transformers board dedicated to fans who dislike what Bay has done with the movie. What's wrong with a thread dedicated to those who dislike this look for The Joker, especially when the board is so divided over it?

 

[Judson Caspian]

Alright, here's why I hate the new look. And thanks for this thread – it really is needed.

■ The "lipstick" goes outside his lips. What the hell is that all about?
■ The black color around his eyes. Looks too excessively.
■ The huge gash. It just looks really bad.

All this crap makes him look like Marilyn Manson, instead of scary.

 

[ToddIsDead]

Alright, here's why I hate the new look. And thanks for this thread – it really is needed.

? The "lipstick" goes outside his lips. What the hell is that all about?
? The black color around his eyes. Looks too excessively.
? The huge gash. It just looks really bad.

All this crap makes him look like Marilyn Manson, instead of scary.

I'm pretty sure that the black around the eyes is just shadow. He's got a very intense light right above his head, which is covering his eyes. You can't even see his eyes, which are clearly open, because of the excessive shadow.