Saving Enterprise - official thread

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  1. wiegeabo

    wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    As official liaison between TrekUnited.com and SuperHeroHype, I've created this thread to provide fans of Star Trek: Enterprise a place to discuss the show and the current efforts to save it from cancellation. All efforts to save Enterprise are being coordinated at www.TrekUnited.com.

    Being the official liaison, I am here to answer any questions and/or concerns the fans may have. If you are a fan, you’re more than welcome to discuss our movement here. If you’re not a fan, you are still more than welcome to do so. We turn no one away who is genuinely interested in discussing Enterprise and our efforts to save it. All I ask is that we be respectful of each other.

    The first question on your mind might be, “How can Enterprise be saved?” Or maybe its, “How can this effort to save a show be any better than others?” Star Trek fans have a history of saving the franchise when the executives think we’ve had enough. The first series was saved by fan efforts twice. And the fans convinced Paramount to give Enterprise a season 4. Now we’re out to get season five.

    While TrekUnited is a grassroots organization of fans determined to keep the show in the minds of executives at Paramount through letter writing, faxes, email, and other methods, we are also going one step further than most other efforts. We are out to make sure that Paramount has no excuse to not produce this show for a fifth season. We are going to buy Enterprise!!!

    That’s right, buy Enterprise! Our goal is to raise the $36 million necessary to pay for a season of production (24 episodes). We know this sounds like a crazy idea, but that’s why it is going to work. So how far have we come? As of this date (3/31/05), since 2/14/05 we have raised over $3 million!

    Granted, $3 million is still a long way from our goal, but our efforts have created other successes. TrekUnited has become incorporated so we can be an official sponsor, and has begun talks with Paramount (which Paramount initiated). Our work has convinced Paramount to not tear down the sets! And, due to the fans reaction, Paramount had decided to begin working on a new Trek movie. The Enterprise actors are still on contract and the show is essentially on hiatus (although it is still officially canceled). We’ve come to the attention of key individuals in the civilian space programs who’ve donated millions and given us their full support. We also have support from cast, crew, and individuals including Manny Coto (executive producer) and Eugene Roddenberry Jr. We even have the support of members of the United States Congress!

    Or focus now is to keep Paramount aware of our efforts. To let them know that there is enough of an audience to support a fifth season and make it profitable. How can you help? One way is to donate your money (online through PayPal, or offline). Pay for 24-hours of a show you like to watch instead of renting a couple of DVD’s or going to the theater once or twice. Think of it as on-demand TV or Pay-Per-View. If you can’t or don’t want to donate money, and even if you do, you can help by writing letters and emails. Send faxes and postcards. Get us mentioned in local media. Hold rallies. Do whatever you can to bring publicity to the campaign. (All we ask is that your efforts remain professional. Don’t be forceful or go overboard.)

    And if you only have enough money to give to either TrekUnited or a charity, then, please, by all means, give to the charity. We realize what takes priority. But know that donating to the campaign and to charity are not mutually exclusive. You don’t have to sacrifice one for the other. Many of our members, myself included, have donated with money from our entertainment budget, not touching money budgeted for other things. As I stated before, just don’t rent movies or games for a month. Don’t go to the theater quite as often. Simple little things can make a difference because any donation, no matter large or small, shows Paramount how much we love this show, and what it stands for.

    We can succeed! Don’t let a program that promotes the heights and goodness of humanity fade away just because the profits aren’t there. Don’t let one of the few programs left that families can watch together disappear. If 3 million people around the world (that’s the world) would only give $12 to the cause, then we win. And since there are 3 million viewers in the United States alone, there is no reason we can’t pull this off. If you love Enterprise and Star Trek, please help. Or if you’re just tired of networks telling us what we can and cannot watch, or have lost a show that you loved, please help. We’re making history. We’re making the future. And you can be a part of it.

    If you have any questions at all, you can go to TrekUnited.com or read our FAQ at http://www.trekunited.com/faq.php?lang=en. (Our website is in multiple languages for your convenience.) At the website, you can also find the email address for our legal department, among others. Or you can ask your questions here and have them answered by me.

    You can also ask general questions to our administrators at [email protected]. Other email addresses for departments can be found at the website.
     
  2. Superfreak

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    will this effort include the removal of Rick Berman, and the current writing team? Because IMO, they don't deserve the job. Example: the Vulcan arc this season... although extremely entertaining, it merely a reuse of an episode that they released in the early seasons. It's stuff like this that makes me dislike Enterprise. I thought the show started out great. It was novel. And it bridged the gap between contemporary times, and the star trek universe... once they got phasers, a lot of that feeling went away (phasers as an example). I was interested in the crossover between series and reality that they had going in the first season. Plasma rifles, the farmer shooting the klingon etc. Now, the show's just turned into 2nd rate conventional trek.

    as I stated in the other Enterprise thread, my support will be given, only if I'm wowed by the next few new episodes... but I have a feeling that that is unlikely.
     
  3. War Lord

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    April Fools!
     
  4. wiegeabo

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    Actually, it's not April Fools. Although, admittedly, I could have timed this thread a little better.


    Braga is leaving Enterprise. He's created a new show and will be moving to another network to produce it. Manny Coto will stay on as executive producer and writer.

    And thank you for the support Superfreak!
     
  5. Mr Sparkle

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    might I ask why you deem such a horrible show of getting saved?
    Honestly even Voyager was better than this and it had a horrible captain, you were hoping for ther to be assimilated, unlike Picard, you didn't respect her intelligence unlike sisco, and she didn't get it on with any green women unlike Kirk, and still she was better than that guy from quantum leap, whatever the **** his name was in the series, they even tried to save the show with the "7 of 9" hot alien girl trick and even that didn't work.

    they should've known better...my questions stands......why?????
     
  6. wiegeabo

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    That's a very good question, one that we are asked a lot.

    Some of us do feel this show is worth saving. The quality ot the latest two seasons especially have been outstanding. Many people who have joined up said they did so only because this current season was so good (they didn't care much for the first seasons either). And since season five will also have Manny Coto (who pretty much turned the show around), it promises to be just as good, or even better.

    The previous Trek spinoffs all took 3 seasons to hit their primes, and Enterprise is no different. If you're not a fan of the show, that's fine, we'll respect that. There's plenty of shows out there that I can't stand and wish would go away. But if you've ever been a big fan of a show that was canceled before its time because, apparently, not enough people liked it, then maybe you can sympathize with the way we feel.


    Oh, and Scott Bakula played Samuel Beckett on Quantum Leap.
     
  7. The Lizard

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    There's only one thing that can save Enterprise now........[​IMG]
     
  8. Hogan

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    *yawn*

    I thought this show was cancelled like three years ago...

    Let it go, already... focus on using your talents for good, not evil.
     
  9. wiegeabo

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    Coincidently, the Gorn will make an appearance later this season.
     
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    Stepping up on my high horse


    Enterprise has improved with every season. And what could be more good than the future Star Trek shows us. Where all of humanity is united together and the world has solved the problems that are tearing us apart today.


    Stepping down from my high horse
    :)
     
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    What could be "more good" is letting a tapped-out franchise (that should have been put out of its misery years ago) die already.
     
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    That's a good point. Does the franchise need a break? Obviously many people think so.

    And many of us agree that maybe Trek should take a break. But not right now! Not when it just getting so good! We want to make sure Enterprise gets the seven year run it was originally scheduled for. And the quality of these last two seasons just goes to show that Trek isn't quite ready to take a rest.

    And that's all we want. To ensure Enterprise gets the run it deserves. After the show has run its original course, if Paramount wants to take a couple of years off, we can live with that. Just not now.
     
  13. wiegeabo

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    Bump--with an update

    TrekUnited has just become an Amazon.com associate. This means that if you go to Amazon.com from a link on our website and purchase something (anything) then we get 5% (as long as you don't leave Amazon between visiting TrekUnited and making the purchase). All money from this will go directly to paying for season 5.

    You can also buy TrekUnited merchandise from the website. The deal with our manufacturer/distributor will provide us with $5 for each product sold to use for server, upgrades, and bandwidth costs. (Currently our founder Tim Brazeal is paying $500/month from his own pocket.)

    These provide you with a couple of ways to help the cause while getting something more out of it than season 5 alone. If you're a fan and are going to buy something from Amazon anyway, why not go through TrekUnited.com? It won't cost you anything extra, and you can help support the show.
     
  14. Hogan

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    This is just sick. Why not use that money for something useful like donating to charity or feeding starving people? Why waste it on a crap TV show that most people won't even watch anyway?
     
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    Straight from the FAQ:

    5. Why spend money on a TV show?
    We are in no way suggesting that you should contribute to Star Trek rather than to charitable organizations. However, Star Trek has always been a beacon of hope in an all too cynical and pessimistic world, positively influencing the lives of millions. To use just a little of the money you'd spend on entertainment anyway for the cause of keeping Star Trek alive isn't a bad expense then either, is it?


    In essence, people can spend their money on whatever they want. Why is it ok to spend money on movies, games, and comics and not this? Why not give that money to charity? By your logic we shouldn't spend any money on entertainment and give it all to charity. Maybe we should. This isn't an either-or thing. They're not mutually exclusive. I only used money in my entertainment budget to try and pay for a show that I like. I'm just not going to rent as many movies.

    If you don't like Enterprise, then by all means, spend your money on something else. And if it is a choice between giving to Enterprise or a charity, please give to the charity.
     
  16. Hobbes

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    Hogan, you're clearly looking to pick a fight, why the anger?
     
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    I am a Star Trek fan. That's why I don't want Enterprise to continue. It's a disgrace to the franchise.
     
  18. wiegeabo

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    That's fine, we wouldn't expect you to contribute to something you didn't believe in.


    Just out of curiosity, when did you stop watching Enterprise? You don't have to answer if you don't want to.
     
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    Bump--with some more information

    Just in case you're wondering what would happen to your money if we failed...

    All money donated to TrekUnited would be refunded-minus 5% transaction fees charged by Paypal and the banks.

    Because of the varying transaction fees from the different possible banks involved, the 5% flat fee is used. Any money remaining in excess of the 5% will be donated to American Tsunami relief.
     
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    Not picking a fight, just don't see the point in wasting time with a sub-par show from a tired, played out franchise. If you really need Star Trek in your life that bad, why not turn to other outlets like comics, books, fan sites, stalking George Takei, etc. Instead of wasting energy on a show that with all likelyhood is never coming back, put your money, time, and talent into something worthwhile. After all, it's just a friggin' TV show, not a religious organization (although you might not know it by the way these people act).
     
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    Please don't typecast all the fans out there based on just a few examples. The idea that all Trek fans are religiously fanatical geeks that have nothing better to do with their lives is no more accurate than the idea that all comic book fans are religiously fanatical nerds that have nothing better to do with their lives.
     
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    Honestly, I stopped quite early on. I haven't seen the show in a long time. Maybe it's gotten better. I don't know.
     
  23. wiegeabo

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    Ever since Manny Coto came on board, the show has really turned around.
     
  24. Hobbes

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    Man, I want to make fun of wiegeabo for liking this show, but he's so damn respectable:( Stupid calm, collected, logical fan:(
     
  25. Mr Sparkle

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    damn you! you almost make me want to save that show.
    but don't you think that format is wrong, and that the high camp value is killing it in it's way.

    well, if you like it that much and have such valid reasons.

    I really liked "The Ben Stiller Show" it lasted one year.

    I understand.
     

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