Scarecrow continuaty origin??

[Cyclops3235]

Is there a continuaty origin for scarecrow that i could find?? He's my favorite batman villian and i was wondering if there was a graphic novel i could buy that had Jonathan Crane's origin as scarecrow.

 

[union_jak]

Four of a Kind is very much a Scarecrow origin (along with Man-Bat, Poison Ivy and the Riddler).

I'd definitely recommend getting Batman Terror- it's the sequel to Batman Prey and is set after Four of a Kind, but still looks at the Scarecrow's past.

 

[Cyclops3235]

is four of a kind in continuity? i'll look into. is that also bats first encounter with Crane? thats also what i'm looking for.

 

[union_jak]

is four of a kind in continuity? i'll look into. is that also bats first encounter with Crane? thats also what i'm looking for.

As far as I know they're set during Batman Year One, so they should be in continuity. It's his first encounter with Batman, who gets gassed and leaps from a burning building like in Begins.

 

[Cyclops3235]

thanks. the reason this question got asked is i read through the long halloween and it seems that Batman had encountered him before in that story.

 

[union_jak]

thanks. the reason this question got asked is i read through the long halloween and it seems that Batman had encountered him before in that story.

Yeah, I like to think The Long Halloween is Batman's third year. He comes across the Scarecrow in Four of a Kind, then again in Terror, which is one of my favourite books because the artwork seems inspired by Batman Returns.

 

[Cyclops3235]

Yeah, I like to think The Long Halloween is Batman's third year. He comes across the Scarecrow in Four of a Kind, then again in Terror, which is one of my favourite books because the artwork seems inspired by Batman Returns.

thats interesting. i usually thought that long halloween was in year two... i'll have to contemplate this....

 

[Cyclops3235]

just did some reasearch and turns out that batman four of a kind is a reprint of batman annual 19, which is scarecrows origin. thanks for all the help union jak! i'm going to get that online...

 

[Rynan]

Is there a continuaty origin for scarecrow that i could find??

What's to know? Kid who enjoys frightening things grows up and becomes a professor of psychology specializing in fear. He becomes fascinated by the fear that crime creates and decides to harness this fear for profit by becoming THE SCARECROW!

That's really all you need to know.

 

[Cyclops3235]

What's to know? Kid who enjoys frightening things grows up and becomes a professor of psychology specializing in fear. He becomes fascinated by the fear that crime creates and decides to harness this fear for profit by becoming THE SCARECROW!

That's really all you need to know.

yes, i knew the origin. i just wanted to have it collected in book form. and your missing some key details.....

 

[Cyclops3235]

i just read up on two issues called "Batman and scarecrow year one" and it details the twos first encounter, but it has robin, so it can't be in continuity.... i hate continuity....

 

[BubbaGump]

I wish someone rewrites Scarecrow's origin. I don't like him being the kid who likes to scare other kids. It's just dumb.

 

[Cyclops3235]

I wish someone rewrites Scarecrow's origin. I don't like him being the kid who likes to scare other kids. It's just dumb.

well, nowadays i think his origin is that he was bullied as a kid and then brought a gun to prom as a senior, and killed his bully and the kid's girlfriend by scaring them to death. then he loved scaring people to death that he started to become a psychologist/pharmopsychologist and then scarecrow was born.

 

[union_jak]

i just read up on two issues called "Batman and scarecrow year one" and it details the twos first encounter, but it has robin, so it can't be in continuity.... i hate continuity....

Well stick with Four of a Kind and Terror... no Robin and Gordon is still a Captain!

 

[Cyclops3235]

yeah i am ordering those of the internet. union jak youve been a great help.

 

[BubbaGump]

well, nowadays i think his origin is that he was bullied as a kid and then brought a gun to prom as a senior, and killed his bully and the kid's girlfriend by scaring them to death. then he loved scaring people to death that he started to become a psychologist/pharmopsychologist and then scarecrow was born.

A gun to prom is a thumbs up from me. Well...not really a thumbs up, but it makes for a good story. You get what I mean.

I still don't like the rest though. Scarecrow should have some childhood trauma. I don't like the concept of him just scaring people because he likes it. It just makes him no more than a bully with a fear-fetish (hehe). Btw, where'd you get that from?

 

[Cyclops3235]

his wikipedia listing lol. i think its from the Batman/Scarecrow year one book.

 

[union_jak]

He killed his own mother according to either The Long Halloween or Dark Victory, I forget which.

I will point out though, the people who teased him at the prom were mentioned as dead, thanks to Crane, in Four of a Kind. But in Terror they are actually alive and become the focus of more... umm...terror.

 

[Cyclops3235]

^^^ coolio. i just ordered the portion of four of a kind that has to do with Scarecrow (batman annual 19) of the internet. i'm pretty excited. also, the thing about his mother is in Long halloween, batman mentions it because a guard tells him Crane's "mother" came to visit (who turns out to be mad hatter)

 

[The Joker]

He killed his own mother according to either The Long Halloween or Dark Victory, I forget which.

Batman said it in The Long Halloween, when Scarecrow escaped from Arkham on Mother's day. According to Batman, Crane strangled his mother to death.

 

[The Empire Ape]

Batman said it in The Long Halloween, when Scarecrow escaped from Arkham on Mother's day. According to Batman, Crane strangled his mother to death.

TLH doesn't count in continuity. Scarecrow was a professor of psychology and not a psychiatrist, he didn't strangle his mother and he doesn't say nursery rhymes. This is all Loeb's world.

 

[Cyclops3235]

TLH doesn't count in continuity. Scarecrow was a professor of psychology and not a psychiatrist, he didn't strangle his mother and he doesn't say nursery rhymes. This is all Loeb's world.

i'm pretty sure that TLH is in continuity. sure, some of the characters are different and do not count in continuaty, but the story is. i think it still is the official twoface origin. i may be wrong tho....

 

[The Joker]

TLH doesn't count in continuity.

TLH is very much in continuity.

 

[Cyclops3235]

TLH is very much in continuity.

quoted for emphasis and agreement (read post above)

 

[The Empire Ape]

i'm pretty sure that TLH is in continuity. sure, some of the characters are different and do not count in continuaty, but the story is. i think it still is the official twoface origin. i may be wrong tho....

The offical Two-Face origin is this annual from 1990(?). Another example: According to the Scarecrow origin he (TwoFace) did appear before the Scarecrow. Bruce Wayne doesn't know Selina Kyle in Knightfall, and so on.

Ah, well. They might have changed it, but at first TLH didn't count.