The Dark Knight Scarecrow

[The Battousai]

Eh whatever i still think murphy is a good actor but no scarecrow he was alright but picking up a comic book (liike knightfall) and seeing how scarecrow really is and should have been done is painfull for me Crane isnt a GQ model type shrink who looks younger then bruce wayne. the trouble with the likes of ras,scarecrow and zsasz in BB is i didnt see them as the real rogues gallery villains we know and love they are far too diluted as to make them ordinary and uninteresting reading the likes of dark victory, knightfall ect makes them look even worse imo.

My...my brain hurts...whenever I read your posts...

 

[PopeAdrian37th]

My...my brain hurts...whenever I read your posts...

lol, when i read that i couldnt help but think of it in Dr. Cox's voice from scrubs

 

[Stotch]

I think that kind of made Cillian freakier. He seemed like a guy who had all this good stuff for him. Not bad looking, very smart but he was very sick in the head. He also acted like a pretty boy when things weren't going his way and cowering at Batman and stuff.

Made him more human, but still something else t:

According to wizard scarecrow and dent are shown early in the film

That's what I was thinking, yeah...I actually expected scarecrow to come out at the very beginning(ala how shumacher films started), but thankfully we know that won't be the case

 

[Ryudoz]

That's what I was thinking, yeah...I actually expected scarecrow to come out at the very beginning(ala how shumacher films started), but thankfully we know that won't be the case

I'm sure his apearance, seeing as how it's not at the very beginning, I suspect will coincide with Batman's first appearance in the film. Although I'm sure it'll just be for one scene, I would have liked it to be more than that. And hopefully he doesn't get offed.

 

[Stotch]

I'm sure his apearance, seeing as how it's not at the very beginning, I suspect will coincide with Batman's first appearance in the film. Although I'm sure it'll just be for one scene, I would have liked it to be more than that. And hopefully he doesn't get offed.

I'm sure he won't get offed. But if he does, it has to be by the Jokers hands. I don't wanna accept anything else!

*come july 18th scarecrow dies by accidentally falling off the garage*

 

[Ryudoz]

I'm sure he won't get offed. But if he does, it has to be by the Jokers hands. I don't wanna accept anything else!

*come july 18th scarecrow dies by accidentally falling off the garage*

Agreed. Anything less would be unconscionable. Although, if he were to fall of a garage and then onto some power tools that caused him to collapse onto a trampoline that propelled him through 4 rings of fire into a tank of piranhas, all while the Benny Hill theme played in the background, it would lessen the blow with some chuckles yet still be unacceptable.

 

[Stotch]

Agreed. Anything less would be unconscionable. Although, if he were to fall of a garage and then onto some power tools that caused him to collapse onto a trampoline that propelled him through 4 rings of fire into a tank of piranhas, all while the Benny Hill theme played in the background, it would lessen the blow with some chuckles yet still be unacceptable.

Spoiler

LOL

 

[Figs]

People keep forgetting that BB was building up to all those, its year one guys. Batmans rogues are just starting to shape up and come into the picture, thats was TDK will be all about.

BB was about bruces journey into Batman, so its going to deal more with him trying to defeat his own monsters and find himself and not so much his well established rogues.

QFT!!

A lot of people are either forgetting or just don't realize that BB was the start for everything. Things were semi-normal, crime wise with mainly mob crime. Just like it's hinted/acknowledged in the comics, because of Batman putting on the cape and cowl it kind of inspires the freaks to come out and play. I think in TDK, Nolan is slowly moving it in the realm of the comics in terms of the Rogues Gallery everyone is wanting.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Its funny cause Murphy actually tryed out for the role of Bats in Begins.

 

[Crook]

QFT!!

A lot of people are either forgetting or just don't realize that BB was the start for everything. Things were semi-normal, crime wise with mainly mob crime. Just like it's hinted/acknowledged in the comics, because of Batman putting on the cape and cowl it kind of inspires the freaks to come out and play. I think in TDK, Nolan is slowly moving it in the realm of the comics in terms of the Rogues Gallery everyone is wanting.

Then it was pretty stupid in choosing 2 supernatural villains to start things off.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Eh whatever i still think murphy is a good actor but no scarecrow

And here it is again.

"*Place Batman Begins actor here* is a good actor, but they're no *place Batman character here*"

Disliking Nolan's Batman is fine, but it'd be nice if you could voice your opinion in a way that doesn't make you sound like a broken record.

he was alright but picking up a comic book (liike knightfall) and seeing how scarecrow really is and should have been done is painfull for me

Painful? I like comic books as much as anybody here, but.. painful? I didn't even find Batman and Robin, as hideous as it was, to be painful. And I thought the Scarecrow in Begins was a lot more interesting than the bland (IMO) Scarecrow that was in Knightfall.

Crane isnt a GQ model type shrink who looks younger then bruce wayne.

Whether he's younger than Wayne depends on who's telling the story. He's not always an old man. In Scarecrow Year One, he's definitely younger than Wayne, though not a GQ model. Then again, neither was Murphy.

the trouble with the likes of ras,scarecrow and zsasz in BB is i didnt see them as the real rogues gallery villains we know and love they are far too diluted as to make them ordinary and uninteresting reading the likes of dark victory, knightfall ect makes them look even worse imo.

Fortunately, the writers of the movie didn't limit themselves to just the comics that were around in the 90's as you would apparently have them do. And I'm glad that they didn't put too much focus on The Long Halloween/Dark Victory, otherwise we would've had a Scarecrow that went around singing nursery rhymes.

 

[rockportspidey]

Nolans movies are class not ass

lmao, I had to snag that one for my sig man

 

[The Guard]

Jeff Goldblum? No thanks. Steve Buscemi, maybe.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Honestly, if you are worried about batman having GQ models, look at Jim lee's artwork, if woman had hips and boobs like this, they'd tip over easily, and the world would be a better place.

While batman begins has pretty people, Both Bale and Gary Oldman are lusted by females, including TDK, Aaron Eckhart and Heath Ledger are also pretty handsome men, still argue that it's a far cry from Joel Schumacher's batman, who with alot of movies, such as the lost boys, deliberately try's to make things sexy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Schumacher

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Yes, terrible artwork.
Why does he bother?

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Barring the overly attractive woman, I disagree, but respect your opinion.

 

[Vengeance of Bane]

If you look at one of the leaked photos where all the Bat lookalikes are sitting on the ground you can actually see Cillian Murphy is second on the left of the photo.

 

[Vengeance of Bane]

If you look at one of the leaked photos where all the Bat lookalikes are sitting on the ground you can actually see Cillian Murphy is second on the left of the photo.

 

[Damiean Dark]

Jeff Goldblum? No thanks. Steve Buscemi, maybe.

That what i mean actors who are weird and a bit quirky Murphy was alright but i still dont think he suited the role.

 

[The Guard]

He wasn't a spot on representation of Crane from the comics...but none of them were. They got a guy who was an intelligent creepy geek. Worked well enough, I guess.

 

[Damiean Dark]

Woman in comics are almost always good looking batmans villains looks should reflect thier personalitie/psychosis imo eg Crane being really lanky and weird looking, Joker looking like a clown ect.

 

[Damiean Dark]

And here it is again.

"*Place Batman Begins actor here* is a good actor, but they're no *place Batman character here*" =quote]

I dont know what you want me to say BB is an amazing movie? its the definate interpretation of the character? Christian Bale=god?

Believe it or not there are some folks who where not inpressed by begins and they think some of the cast where wrong for the roles isnt that crazy!?

 

[Bat-Mite]

I dont know what you want me to say BB is an amazing movie? its the definate interpretation of the character? Christian Bale=god?

It's like you didn't even bother to read my post. Either that, or you're purposely trying to come off as obtuse. I said in the very post that I don't have a problem with people disliking Nolan's Batman. It's my favorite Batman film, but at the end of the day, it's just as flawed as the Batman films that came before it.

My problem lies in the repetition of your "argument" in which you state something like "So-and-so was a good actor, but they were no *place Batman character here*" It seems that simply being in Batman Begins is enough to not make these actors the character for you. Sir Laurence Olivier could've come back from the dead to play Ra's al Ghul and you would have said he did a horrible job. ...Unless Tim Burton were the one directing the film. This kind of thing is one of the many reasons why I can't stand the Burtonite/Nolanite BS.

Believe it or not there are some folks who where not inpressed by begins and they think some of the cast where wrong for the roles isnt that crazy!?

Yep. but there are many people here who aren't fond of the movie who can give more fleshed out criticisms than "they weren't the character". Of course, most of them (unlike some people) don't go into the theater expecting to see the interpretation of the character that they're most fond of, because they know that they're going to see a version of the character that works best within the context of the film itself.

 

[lixdexia]

i was really hoping we'd get the joker/scarecrow chair bashing scene from knightfall, but i don't think we're getting it

 

[DaddyGrayson]

Would be cool, but I doubt it.