SCK vs MCK

[NHawk19]

I was reading around a couple of threads and it got me thinking. . . .

One of the things that we continue to want to focus on is getting the at the end of the series. But what about the shirt and tie covering it? Why choose to wear a costume at work and a costume for \S/ and go from one whole person to a split? How do they get us from Clark as his is in Smallville (SCK) to Clark as he is in Metropolis (MCK)? How should they close some of the loose ends they generated based on todays world.

So in season 6, 7 and beyond when and how do they make the change? I've always liked Birthright's explanation but I wondered what everyone else thought.

Plus things around here have been kinda slow thought I'd work on something new.

 

[AgentPat]

Wait! Did I just coin a new SV acronym? How cool! LOL


I think since Vengeance, the writers will be throwing out more clues ("anvils?") to how SCK goes about choosing qualities for the MCK facade. I just HOPE and PRAY the SV folks scale back the overly goofy and "bumbling" aspects. It looks stupid, and it's DUMB simply because it does exactly what he wouldn't want to do: attract attention. Given his size alone, SCK already stands out like a sore thumb (literally!), and it's only emphasized when he sports his favorite red/blue jacket/T-shirt attire. Combine that with his posture - feet always apart, shoulders back, chest out - he'd be picked off AS Superman in a cocaine heartbeat.

MCK needs to bury his entire gestalt. He needs to holster the 'tude, and turn OFF the hero complex. Completely. MCK can be approachable, but NOT charismatic. He needs to be a Joe Schmo. Nothing unusual at ALL about this guy, which means he can't be overly goofy. Goofy can be endearing. MCK should just be an efficient and loyal reporter for the Daily Planet and that's IT.

Sans the suit, we see aspects of Clark's Superman in every episode. We really haven't seen his MCK yet though. THAT will be a fun transformation to see. I can't wait!

 

[NHawk19]

Wait! Did I just coin a new SV acronym? How cool! LOL

I dont have a problem giving you credit for the acronym . . . .

Personally I think it's a perfect way to describe Clark Kent because by the time he gets to Metropolis Clark is more a disguise than anthing and we really do get to see 2 alter egos & 2 costumes. The World's Greatest Hero, and mild mannered Clark. Only around "true" friends do we get the Clark we're seeing in SV, which is why I think SV could be some much more powerful at times because we're seeing Clark as a whole more than we do in the comics at times.

It also feeds into my it doesnt take a suit to be \S/ arguments. Right now he's SCK, who IMHO is virtually the same as \S/. It's not until he puts on the \S/ that the MCK is forced to appear, and MCK is more of a disguise than \S/ will ever be.

 

[Pickle-El]

Sans the suit, we see aspects of Clark's Superman in every episode. We really haven't seen his MCK yet though. THAT will be a fun transformation to see. I can't wait!

This is why I don't think it would work to play it 'cool and calm'. Particularly,because Lois has seen Clark play it cool and calm, goofy, and outright heroic already. I just don't see how the writers can expect the audience to give THAT much leeway in regards to her not knowing....Lois has seen too much of Clark by now.

I, for one, think they already screwed that part up....unless the amnesia kiss makes a re-appearance. Lois is too sharp to not know the guy she calls 'Smallville' is Superman by the time they work together at the Daily Planet. If they do play it that way, it would be a major disservice to the Lois Lane character.

They've got to do something fairly creative to keep her suspician off of Clark...Smallville is it's own Universe, so they can do pretty much whatever they want. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for something good.

Furthermore, I'm pretty interested in seeing how Tom plays Metropolis Clark. He's gotta come up with a whole new aspect to his approach. Should be very interesting should they even choose to show it. My guess is it'll only be for a few moments on the final episode if they do.

 

[user123456789]

pat u gotta remember the public doesn't know or even fathom of Superman having a dual identity.

 

[BaK]

did any1 patent \S/CK ?

 

[AgentPat]

I don't have a problem giving you credit for the acronym...

Hee! I was just yankin' yer chain. If it works for folks, great!

It also feeds into my it doesn't take a suit to be \S/ arguments. Right now he's SCK, who IMHO is virtually the same as \S/. It's not until he puts on the \S/ that the MCK is forced to appear, and MCK is more of a disguise than \S/ will ever be.

Bingo! I agree wholeheartedly.

This is why I don't think it would work to play it 'cool and calm'.

You mean MCK? I just think he should be invisible. Somebody who comes to work every day, does his job, gets along with his coworkers, but for all intents and purposes, is a "nobody." We all work with such individuals. Some of us ARE those people. You know, the folks with "no lives?" LOL

Particularly,because Lois has seen Clark play it cool and calm, goofy, and outright heroic already. I just don't see how the writers can expect the audience to give THAT much leeway in regards to her not knowing....Lois has seen too much of Clark by now.

You're falling into the trap, Pickle. As an extended origin story, there are a few events that SV viewers are guaranteed. We know for example, that Clark Kent will eventually work at the Daily Planet, fall in Love with Lois Lane, and become Superman. We know that eventually, Lex Luthor will be Superman's greatest enemy. But that's about it. We have no idea how the writers will deal with who knows what about whom. I rather fancy the idea that Lois will know from the moment she sees *Clark* in a colorful ow-fit, FLYING. It would be a welcome twist to SV's re-imaging of the mythos, albeit radical. The concept of Lois knowing who Superman actually is, all while Clark continues to pretend to be two different people around her and everybody else - would be hysterical. And the way Durance plays Lois, I would totally buy it. But that's just me.

Lois is too sharp to not know the guy she calls 'Smallville' is Superman by the time they work together at the Daily Planet.

Exactly! And Lois aint the only one either.

They've got to do something fairly creative to keep her suspicion off of Clark...Smallville is it's own Universe, so they can do pretty much whatever they want. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for something good.

They've already planted the seeds. From Pariah...

Chloe: Lois, if you found out something, something someone didn't want you to know about them, would you tell them?

Lois: That depends. Is that person someone you care about?

Chloe: Yeah.

Lois: And does keeping the secret hurt anyone?

Chloe: No.

Lois: Then my answer is no. If I really cared about that person, I wouldn't tell them that I knew. But I would go out of my way to be supportive of them so that hopefully, one day, they would be comfortable enough to tell me themselves.

Chloe: No offense, Lois, but that's the last thing I expected to hear from you.

Lois: I've learned the hard way that people keep secrets for a reason, even from the people they're closest to.​

Furthermore, I'm pretty interested in seeing how Tom plays Metropolis Clark. He's gotta come up with a whole new aspect to his approach. Should be very interesting should they even choose to show it. My guess is it'll only be for a few moments on the final episode if they do.

Well, I'm hoping it will be more than just a few moments in the final episode. And I hope Welling picks an approach that's unique to his characterization and nobody else's. I don't want to see him mimic Reeve or Cain.

pat u gotta remember the public doesn't know or even fathom of Superman having a dual identity.

And? LOL

Aight... show and tell time...

Hair slicked:

Not slicked:

Lois and Lex would have to be complete MO-RONS not to figure this one out...

And that goes for everybody else in Smallville that's seen THIS walk down a street or school hallway...

^ THAT's Superman, sans the costume. Even ten years later, SOMEBODY would remember Clark. My GOD, how could they not? LOLOLOL!!!

I don't expect a SV writer's deus ex machina on this un. No magic crystal. No population-wide mind wipe. No LuthorCorp experiment gone haywire. And definitely no reverse speed flights around the planet, spinning it backwards. I'm good with the conceit that in the Superman mythos, people just don't recognize Clark Kent for who he really is - unless the writers telling that version of the tale want the character to do so.

Put some glasses on him, break out the hair gel, round the shoulders a bit, un-poof the chest (LOL) and voila, MCK can be born...

 

[NHawk19]

Ever see the SNL sketch with the Rock as \S/. It was funny, but it also fed into everyone around MCK knowing because there's not much of a disguise especially in todays world with camera phones and high quality photo's everywhere.

As far as Lois goes . . .I think pariah offered something we can go with, but it doesnt really matter because she's basically on Clark's side. Lex is more of a concern.

As Pat pointed out SCK is basically \S/ with hair gel and a snazzy spandex suit. The writers have their work cut out for them . . . .

I am curious though whether we'll see the transition to MCK and SCK's perceived need for him or if we'll just fast forward to a point where MCK just exists. The latter would suck.

 

[AgentPat]

Ever see the SNL sketch with the Rock as \S/. It was funny,

Wish I saw it. I heard about it, but haven't watched SNL since the days of land sharks and Samurai cheeseburgers.

Yeah. Really! LOL

I am curious though whether we'll see the transition to MCK and SCK's perceived need for him or if we'll just fast forward to a point where MCK just exists. The latter would suck.

Agreed. But I don't think they'll do that. They've got potentially 44 more episodes to fill in the blanks. That's what the show is about. Everybody moans about wanting to see Clark accept his destiny. Pfft. That's kind of a given, y'know? Just be patient I say. It'll happen, and we'll see it. What we DON'T know is if the writers will show us the "small" details. What's behind all of those things we already accept about an established Superman?

Take for example Lois. In most (not all) Superman lore, Clark doesn't meet Lois till he gets to the DP. SV has taken a refreshing new approach. By having them meet when they did, audiences will see that Clark's love for Lois wasn't a light switch. The writers have the opportunity to peel back the layers of their early relationship like an onion. We are being shown what the keystones are and why these two are perfect for each other.

The other thing of course (as it relates to Clark) is the hows and whys of the MCK facade. With the exception of the whole "strange visitor from another planet" origin and back-story, the "secret identity" angle is a major part of the fun of the myth. By removing it from the plots - another radical approach the SV producers took in order to focus on the man behind the legend - the show has taken on a more serious and grounded (no pun intended LOL) flavor. Some of the stories are no doubt "out" there - this IS a tale about a superhuman alien living on Earth, after all - everything is treated as realistically as possible within the confines of the genre. But SV's Fourth Wall isn't going anywhere; in point of fact, it's firmly in place.

So, introducing the facade and how *Clark* goes about his approach will probably be a very unique episode. There was quite a bit of inside humor in Vengeance - Andrea's quick change in the phone booth, her eye glasses and bumbling demeanor - but those were all sight gags. SV is known for digging deeper - getting under the skin of the characters. The writers have their work cut out for 'em.

BTW, great topic, Hawk!

 

[NHawk19]

So, introducing the facade and how *Clark* goes about his approach will probably be a very unique episode. There was quite a bit of inside humor in Vengeance - Andrea's quick change in the phone booth, her eye glasses and bumbling demeanor - but those were all sight gags. SV is known for digging deeper - getting under the skin of the characters. The writers have their work cut out for 'em.

Lesbian Vampires aside yes I would agree that this medium allows for more depth and exploration of character than film.

I guess I should open this this: My idea of acceptance of destiny is not but rather Clarks decision to learn more about the world in an attempt to help it. to me represents fulfillment.

Which brings us to this problem; the current full time cast in place how can Clark continue to be around them, work through acceptance, and then support the appearance of an anonymous Superman when he splints into \S/ and MCK. (Nothing we havent already discussed)

So Mr. Writer as season 6 approaches it makes me wonder if they shouldnt begin to think about writing some of them off the show, or greatly reduce their roles to only to have them receive reports about Clark getting hurt problems with his eyes etc., in order for them to expect Clark to be in glasses when they meet up later.

The other thing they havent explored is why Clark would want to wear the MCK disguise. I understand that they may have "just barely" touched on his wanting to hurt Lana (just once), but why else because by the time he does put on \S/ she shouldnt be much of an issue. So what else has he seen . . .Why have good people lied about their identity throughout the world? How have they been persecuted?

BTW, great topic, Hawk!

Thanks

 

[Kaboom]

if i ever use the sck and mck acronym, i will make sure to give credit where credit is due.

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