BmAaTn3625 said:
If he had accepted, it´d be for the money, and he´d have phoned it in. If the guy doesn´t have any passion for the role, he´s not the right guy. Period.thorstone said:God, I wish Penn had accepted the part.
Cinemaman said:^^^
Well, if TDK is the title, it doesn't mean everything will look like TDKR.
Alright. So if he HAD accepted, why exactly would you think he would "phone it in"? And Penn off all people...ultimatefan said:If he had accepted, it´d be for the money, and he´d have phoned it in. If the guy doesn´t have any passion for the role, he´s not the right guy. Period.
silentflute said:Um...and where did I say that?
raybia said:It makes you wonder though, what is it that Nolan sees in Ledger that would make him the ideal choice for the Joker?
Not that Joker is gay, but would anyone agree that at times he is portrayed with gay tendencies?
If so, maybe there were some mannerisms the Ledger displayed in Brokeback that would transfer to Nolan's Joker. I'm reaching here because I've never seen the movie.
The fact that he declined showed he had no interest in the character. Therefore, the only other reason to make it would be money.E-Mack said:Alright. So if he HAD accepted, why exactly would you think he would "phone it in"? And Penn off all people...
The fact that he did decline, does show he has some disinterest, but if he did accept, there is no reason in my mind at all that he would have turned in a great performance rivaling/surpassing Nicholson.
Some writers indeed make Joker do some sort of homoerotic humor towards Batman, where he either seems to have a perverted crush on him - DKR, Broken City - or he does that to tease Batman´s uptight attitude - Arkham Asylum.antmanx68 said:Yes, I think that the Joker should have some feminine/gay mannerisms. He is definitely "flaming" in a disturbing kind of way wether or not he likes men or not. A big part of Joker's character is that he is pervers and shocking in most everything he does... and being flirty and suggestive to other male characters is part of this.
BUT
NONE of this could be seen in Ledger's Brokeback Mountain character. He isnt "fruity" at all. He doesnt display any of the stereotypical signs of being gay. In fact other than him kissing and having sex with another guy, he's pretty much a man's man. So no, Nolan didnt see any of Ledger's gayness in brokeback mountain as something useful for playing the Joker.
thorstone said:I prefer Joker to be older than Batman.
And Penn has more muscle than Bale.
Cinemaman said:Post #55 in this thread.