Daredevil Season 1, Episode 7 "Stick" (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[ernesth100]

I felt sad for Matt when he gave Stick the bracelet and the dude immediately left.

 

[Quasimod0]

I felt sad for Matt when he gave Stick the bracelet and the dude immediately left.

Yeah that was a really *****e move by Stick. Felt so bad for little Matt.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Well, that's because Stick is a *****e.

 

[Snikt]

Well, that's because Stick is a *****e.

I never really followed Stick in the comics...but yeah he was a huge *****e.

Sad thing is, he's right...kind of. Matt's friends will be his undoing and will cause him much pain. But they will also be the reason he disses out so much pain. He'll do anything to protect his friends and his city.

So in the end, I was happy to see Stick have his ass handed to him.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spoiler

"You're a d***"

"You wanted a father, I wanted a soldier"
"Guess we were both disappointed then"


This version of Stick is less grouchy than the comic book version.

 

[gdw]

Although I loved this episode, and love that we are getting to see DD and Ninja(s) (don't worry, more ninja fighting coming,) it definitely stuck out in the series so far.

It's, so far (just finished ep 10) the only episode that really sidestepped the main plot, almost completely. Matt is almost completely taken away from his mission to help Stick with his'.

From the sounds of it, these

Spoiler

"weapons"/kids, (what were they called, black skys?)

are tied, in some way, the main plot, at least in as far as the Japanese guy's plans are concerned. Whether or not even that will be significantly tied to Fisk and Murdock, I don't know.

I can appreciate the drop ins for setting up future stories, not to mention the Defenders, but so far, it feels like that this was all just dumped into one, more or less isolated, episode. Just made it really stick (ok, seriously, no pun intended) out.

 

[RockSP]

Nitpick: they could've done something to make Stick look younger during the flashbacks. Dude hasn't aged in 20 years, lol.

 

[Six]

Nitpick: they could've done something to make Stick look younger during the flashbacks. Dude hasn't aged in 20 years, lol.

I disagree. I thought they did a great job in aging everyone including Stick.

Flashbacks

Present

 

[Solaire]

Just finished the episode, who or what was Black Sky??? Was surprised when it was revealed to be a kid.

 

[chintai80]

Well, that's because Stick is a *****e.

it was a *****ey move, but i also got a sense that Stick left because he himself was starting to care for Matt.
because having feelings or attachment will "compromise" his mission in the upcoming war he speaks of. .
scott glenn's did some subtle expression like he was surprised when matt gave him that bracelet. he was actually moved, but was trying to hide it by being cruel.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, I think it was clear based on the fact that he ultimately kept the bracelet.

 

[TheToker87]

I was really disappointed with this episode. It's the latest one I've seen so I don't know where the story goes after episode 7 but I felt like (great acting aside) this episode didn't fit in with the rest of the series in a lot of ways.

- No Fisk. The simultaneous rise of Fisk and Murdock leading to inevitable confrontation is what makes this show great IMO.
- Not a great deal of follow-up to the incredible (IMO) episode 6. I was expecting things to heat up even further in episode 7.
- Stick was well-acted but I found him too harsh and couldn't understand why kid Matt wouldn't have just said 'I hate you, I'm going back to the convent' multiple times. The guy was a grade-A *****e who transcended 'bad ass' and was basically just a spiteful old b******. By the end I was willing Matt to physically destroy him.
- Much more fantastical stuff compared to previous episodes; I feel this show works better with minimal fantasy, or at least kept vague. Kid Matt doing flips and cartwheels, old man Stick doing the same, Stick having the same abilities as Matt (what did the chemical-in-the-eyes do to Matt then?), the (presumably super-powered) Black Sky, and so on. It felt more like an episode of Arrow.

I was really disappointed, and feel like this episode - whilst foreshadowing future plot points and providing more backstory - lets the series down quite a bit, and is the first that is pretty much skippable; that's a shame.

From what I've read, the rest of the series is in keeping with the opening 6 episodes so I'm happy about that.

EDIT: Also, the amount of swearing was over the top IMO. In previous episodes it was used sparingly, in necessary places, and gave the show an added edge, but here it just seemed like they were trying to say 'yeah, we're not afraid to do that, even though it's a Marvel show' which is the opposite of the nuanced style they'd used on the previous 6 episodes.

 

[Six]

Yeah, I think it was clear based on the fact that he ultimately kept the bracelet.

Saw that coming a mile away.

 

[pixen]

Just finished the episode, who or what was Black Sky??? Was surprised when it was revealed to be a kid.

I took it as being The Beast, which is Hand related:

The Hand is a ninja order that serves a demon referred to by members as the Beast. The Hand's attempts to spread its dark influence over the world have led them into battle countless times through the centuries with an order known as the Chaste.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Hand#ixzz3XXTl9Db0

But I have no idea if that's accurate. It's just something Stick/The Chaste seem to go up against often.

 

[HFK]

I thought it was a great episode. The first two did a fantastic job of showing origins and current events. After the death of his father we haven't gotten anymore of his youth or origin so I felt this story really helps 'make' the character.

As for the swearing, really? They are just words people. What exactly happens if you happen to hear one? It is a word. Maybe if a child hears a swear word they grow up to be murderers or drug dealers? Or even worse, a politician? I could never understand this.

 

[Kane52630]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/119600200454/1x07-stick-daredevil

 

[Kane52630]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/119630080504/1x07-stick-daredevil

 

[Silliminite]

Fantastic episode. Scott Glenn portrayed Stick with perfection.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

this episode felt very much like a filler episode, but it was necessary filler.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

If it was necessary then it wasn't filler.

 

[Mike Murdock]

The episode wasn't really necessary for this season, but it was useful in foreshadowing future seasons.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It didn't feel much like filler to me. We got a huge slice of Matt's past plus his relationship with Stick. Sure it pulls away from the Union Allied/Fisk stuff but superheroing is a busy gig.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

If it was necessary then it wasn't filler.

no. it did not really advance the story being told, hence it was filler. but it was necessary filler because it gave more origin to daredevil.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

"In my book, there are no heroes, no villains, just people with different agendas."
Man, if there is one person Mandarin has no need to teach something, it's Ben Urich.

I'll miss Ben when season 2 comes.

 

[coluanprime]

I feel like people have this prejudice against episodes that don't advance the overall arc. If an episode is good or does character work, it isn't filler. Filler should only be used for the bad episodes that fail to accomplish anything, whether that thing is character work, plot work, or a different type of idea.