Sending money to relatives

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I have just recieved a request to send money to one of my relatives because they can no longer cover their bills. The amount of money is not significant to me but it would be to them. I am inclined to give it by my fiancee would rather I did not or at least that I indicate it is a one off or that it is an interest free loan. She is worried if I do not, another request will come with another 0 attached to it.

Have you ever been asked by a family member for money and what was your reaction to it?
 
For me, I think it would depend solely on my relationship with said family member. I mean, I'd hope it didn't become a regular thing, but then again I have no problems saying no to someone, especially after helping them out the first time.

I suppose it's all up to you, but bear in mind that maybe they do just need help this once. And, if they up the ante next time, feel free to decline. They should understand.
 
I am going to send something. It is just more of a question on how I send it. In my case, the family member is part of my immediate family eventhough I am estranged from that person and have been for over 20 years.
 
Hmm, well, there's always Western Union, I guess, or the mail?
 
I think the most my family asked from me was 50. I gave it.

I did get a email from, Abdul Abdel who said his family need money from me :/
 
I have just recieved a request to send money to one of my relatives because they can no longer cover their bills. The amount of money is not significant to me but it would be to them. I am inclined to give it by my fiancee would rather I did not or at least that I indicate it is a one off or that it is an interest free loan. She is worried if I do not, another request will come with another 0 attached to it.

Have you ever been asked by a family member for money and what was your reaction to it?
I don't quite understand why your fiancee wouldn't want you to help out a family member financially. Especially if the amount isn't any big deal to you. It isn't like they've ever asked you for money before, right? So there's no guarantee that they will ask for money again. My parents have sent money to family members. Family members should help and look out for one another. That's what family is about.
 
Well, I know there are some people in my family I'd never EVER send money to... I suppose it's all who's in your family.
 
There are two questions that come to mind:

1. Is it money that you can afford to lose and never see again? (by your opening post I am assuming so)

2. Are you okay with that and will it not affect your relationship with that relative?


I always think of the worst outcome on situations like that.
 
I have just recieved a request to send money to one of my relatives because they can no longer cover their bills. The amount of money is not significant to me but it would be to them. I am inclined to give it by my fiancee would rather I did not or at least that I indicate it is a one off or that it is an interest free loan. She is worried if I do not, another request will come with another 0 attached to it.

Have you ever been asked by a family member for money and what was your reaction to it?

We're talking about covering "bills" right, not covering bail or drugs or illegal gambling debts. So this is a family member who is struggling with normal living.

From what I recall you're loaded like a double barrell shotgun in a Bruce Campbell movie. It seems pretty easy to me.

Don't loan them the money. Give it to them. If they keep asking for more and more money from their rich family member... Well. Why assume that they are going to do that when they haven't given you the indication?
 
First off, there is no question I wil be sending the money.

And I am not assuming anything. My first inclination was just to give double the amount they asked. Enough for them to cover their bills until the end of the year. However, she feels given that this person never seeked any contact with me would all of a sudden get hold of me for money. Also, she is worried that they will ask for ten times the amount next time, and I will give it whereas we might have increased expenses in our lives.
 
There are two questions that come to mind:

1. Is it money that you can afford to lose and never see again? (by your opening post I am assuming so)

2. Are you okay with that and will it not affect your relationship with that relative?


I always think of the worst outcome on situations like that.

1. Yes on both fronts.

2. My relationship cannot really get any worse given over the past 10 years I have had 2 phone conversations (which I instigated) and I saw the person just once.


So how about everybody else. Anybody send money to their relatives or have views on the subject not necessarily refering to me.
 
Now... me, am a jaded person who has been stepped on by friends and family... so keep that in mind....

It all depends on two things.... your relationship.... and the undersanding you will get the money back at a later date.....

I know, many times people consider that there is no "lending" money to relatives... you either give it to them, or don't.... because you shouldn't expect the money back...

me, I don't play that game... I have loaned money to my sister, grandma and parents before... sometimes only 50 bucks... sometimes a few grand... and I always tell them, this isn't a present, it's a loan.... I need the money back in installments starting in three months....

my brother borrowed 500 once so he could fix his car... I told him I wanted 5 points on the loan... he fixed his car so he could go to work...

my interest system is a little fairer then most... i want 5 percent interest, every month it's added on with a min 10% payment...

for 500 at 5 points... is 525.... so he owed me 52.5 the first month.... loan is at 472.5... add 5% of that back on.. it's back up to $496.....

thats how I do loans....

I even make them sign a contract... I don't work my ass off every day to bail out people....
 
I think of situations like this if I ever won the lottery. Relatives coming out of the wood work to ask for money and my immediate family asking me to give to them. I have given a little here and there to distant relatives when asked by my family but I did feel guilty when the situation was relayed to me. So yes I would give especially if my family asked.
 
1. Yes on both fronts.

2. My relationship cannot really get any worse given over the past 10 years I have had 2 phone conversations (which I instigated) and I saw the person just once.

So how about everybody else. Anybody send money to their relatives or have views on the subject not necessarily refering to me.

Seems pretty sketchy of this person to ask for money out of the blue like that. I don't have a problem helping family members out from time to time, there are some family members I wouldn't do it for because I know the money won't be used well though. Heck, I'm the cosigner on my sister's car, I completely trust her though and know it won't come back to bite me in the ass unless something truly screwed up happens.

I personally wouldn't loan the money to this person, based solely on the fact that you barely talked to them in the past 10 years.
 
Wow, really touchy issue.

Since you said you already have a pretty much nonexistent relationship with this person, can I assume it's not just a case of drifting apart for no reason? Can we basically assume there is a reason you are estranged from them? If so, that alone tells me you should probably simply send them whatever amount of cash you are comfortable sending, with a note saying you will help out this time (especially if it's true as some folks said that you have plenty of cash so it won't be a burden on you), but that they should really not ask for any more money because you'll just not respond.

Then inform them it's not a "loan", that you are giving them this money to help out because they need it, they are family, and you can afford it at the moment. If they still chose to send you money to repay the debt, great. If not, though, you've already assumed it won't be paid back. I agree strongly with Majic Walrus on this, just assume it won't be paid back. And tell them you don't want it paid back.

I've had family members ask me for money. Sometimes it's someone I totally trust and I don't even think about loaning or giving them the money. Usually, it's for a temporary thing like not having enough to pay a dinner bill or something immediate like that, where I get paid back within a day or so. Other times I've had a sibling ask for a loan for bills, and I made the loan to one of them but not to others. The ones I refused were due to having a very strained relationship and suspecting they wouldn't pay bills but would instead buy drugs with it. I recommend NEVER giving money to family or friends if you have any suspicion that the money is going to anything other than what you're told it's for.

If you know for sure it's really a need for money to pay bills, is it a situation that will improve in the future, or will it just recur as a problem for them again? Will they make good decisions about how best to use the money in their bill situation? And do they have kids who will be harmed if they don't get the financial assistance? If they really need it for bills and will apply the money properly, and if there are also kids involved, then that's important. Is the cause of your estrangement something of a serious nature -- abuse, for example -- or is it just a more typical family estrangement issue? If it's the latter, then it doesn't mean they are a bad person or someone you don't care about at all, right? You can love someone in your family even if you don't like them. So wanting to help a person truly in need (and especially if kids are involved) can outweigh personal dislike.

If the sum is a large amount, and you are willing to provide it, making it a gift instead of a loan has the added benefit of not creating additional tension in an already strained relationship. Even among friends and family you are on good terms with, a sizeable "loan" that is expected to be paid back can make things weird if they are unable to pay it back as soon as expected, and there's the awkwardness of whether they mention it or you do, it can cause resentments (even if you don't want it to, it's sometimes hard to help feeling that way, and it could be them who feel resentment over feeling embarrassed or guilty etc, it might be irrational but humans are humans and we feel irrational things sometimes).

It's worth also remembering, though, that your fiancee should actually have some say in the matter -- you're going to be married, and financial decisions (regardless of who makes the most money, keeping separate finances, whatever) should be joint decisions even when or especially when it's family and friends. It can cause tensions and resentments between you and your partner, the repercussions (family getting upset or resentful, asking for more money, etc) will affect your fiancee as much as you, and you should ask yourself if doing this for your family member is worth the potential disagreements and potential fallout that could unduly affect your relationship with your fiancee. People tend to think "it's my money, it's my family" but you're making a life with this other person and how your decision affects the two of you is important.

If you give the money, you might want to talk to your fiancee and ask what would make them feel comfortable with the loan. Ask them to set parameters for the situation, what sort of amount they are most comfortable with, and assure them you want to make the decision in a way that you are both able to accept. Tell them you will make it clear to your family that this is absolutely a one-time thing, and that if another request for money does come then you will refuse it.

I suspect part of your fiancee's reluctance is due to the nature of your relationship with this family member, mixed with some resentment that the family member would ask you for money despite your strained relationship. And your fiancee also likely sees this as a sort of test-run for how things could play out when you are married if you are caught between a family request and your fiancee's disagreement with it. Right or wrong, it probably appears to your fiancee to be a question of whether your strained relationship with a family member is still going to outweigh your good relationship with your fiancee. Competing wishes.

It'd be much easier if there are kids involved and if the estrangement isn't due to anything that makes them a really bad person. Your fiancee would probably be much easier to convince to come to some sort of compromise if they understand the kid aspect and that your dislike for this relative isn't due to a really big issue that goes to the relative's character. And, if it is a more typical family estrangement problem (they acted like a jerk a lot, they were insensitive, they make a lot of bad decisions and expect other family to bail them out, etc) then there is the chance that this could, if you want it to, be the start of overcoming some of that estrangement to at least have a more normal, distant but not poisoned relationship with the relative. That would be another big motivating factor that could really be important to explain to your finacee, too.

It's a pain, but it's very common and can be frustrating if it's not handled delicately and in a way clearly demonstrating to your fiancee that you value their wishes and want to find a way to make them happy with the decision. That is in fact probably ultimately where the real issue lies anyway between you and your fiancee. Help them understand, avoid making it an argument, and demonstrate that you really do want them to be comfortable with the decision, that's my best advice. Sorry it's so long.

Best of luck!
 
I don't quite understand why your fiancee wouldn't want you to help out a family member financially. Especially if the amount isn't any big deal to you. It isn't like they've ever asked you for money before, right? So there's no guarantee that they will ask for money again. My parents have sent money to family members. Family members should help and look out for one another. That's what family is about.

This.

I come from a family that helps each other out all the time. My parents have lent money to siblings, borrowed money from siblings, sent money to their parents, borrowed money from their parents, and it's never been an issue. We all do what we can for each other.

I've borrowed a lot of money from my parents that I haven't yet been able to pay back. I mean A LOT.

But as soon as I get done with school, and I start a career, which would coincide with my dad's retirement, I'm going to be all about sending whatever money I can to my parents.
 
I remember my dad telling me once never to be afraid or ashamed to ask to borrow money, because he and my mother still borrowed money from her parents into their mid thirties.

It's something of a slippery slope. I don't believe in loaning money to friends and relatives, I believe in giving it to them if they need it, and not expecting them to pay it back. Mostly because I've been given a lot over the years, and even when I've tried to make good on my debts, been told "Keep it". So I try to pass that on as much as I can. But that's me. You have to decide what you value, and how much you want to risk being used if a situation turns sour.
 
I remember my dad telling me once never to be afraid or ashamed to ask to borrow money, because he and my mother still borrowed money from her parents into their mid thirties.

It's something of a slippery slope. I don't believe in loaning money to friends and relatives, I believe in giving it to them if they need it, and not expecting them to pay it back. Mostly because I've been given a lot over the years, and even when I've tried to make good on my debts, been told "Keep it". So I try to pass that on as much as I can. But that's me. You have to decide what you value, and how much you want to risk being used if a situation turns sour.

That is exactly what both of my parents have told me as well, that I don't need to feel ashamed to borrow money, because they borrowed from their parents as well.

I still feel like crap when I do it, tho, like I just had to. Maybe it's because I've borrowed so much. I just hate the feeling that I feel when I ask for money, like I am some kind of burden upon them. Though they have told me constantly that I'm not, and I have nothing to feel bad about.

All I know is that I can't wait for the day when I have a career of my own and am making REAL money, and I can start sending them checks myself. My parents have been probably better to me than I deserve, and it really is important to me to repay the favor to them.

The good news has been, despite the fact that I have had more expenses added to my obligations lately, I am needing less money than I did before from my parents to get through it. That's definitely a good sign that once I get through these extra expenses (stupid medical bills) I will be able to make it on my own.
 
****... my mom makes me feel guilty anytime I used to ask....

even when I got x-mas money or anyother money from my distint grandpa, she would always tell me that I should give that money to them
 
****... my mom makes me feel guilty anytime I used to ask....

even when I got x-mas money or anyother money from my distint grandpa, she would always tell me that I should give that money to them
Which maybe why you "loan" money to family now. :o
 
My family?

We'd probably leave each other out to starve if it didn't serve some overbearing purpose to them which makes up for how much crap we endure from one another.

Or at least, I would. And that's not a joke. :dry:
 
Which maybe why you "loan" money to family now. :o

I don't to my parents anymore.... because they do this

"Hey mom, I loaned you 500 last month, I need atleast 100 back to pay for "whatever"

"Well Nick, I watched you son last week, and you know what that would cost you if someone else did that? We give you free child care every week, you should be thankful we don't charage you"

"you only watch him one day a week, and it's for like four hours?"

"All the vacations I took you on when you were younger, the christmas presents, you don't see us asking for that money back"

"But those were gifts, you were aware that I needed that money I lent to you in the future, what should I do now that you won't give it back"

"I have bills to pay too you know, most are from when you were a kid"

and that is why I never loan money to my parents...

this is the convo when my grandpa gave me 1000 for christmas

"How much did Grandpa give you"

"A decent amount, more then I though"

"well, you should be giving us that money, you know I still pay for some of your student loan"

"But that was the deal when I went to college, that you guys would help out by taking out a loan for half, you knew I couldn't, or can't afford to pay the entire loan"

"I know that, but you should still give us that money to help pay it down"

"that's what I was going to do, for my own loan, pay it down a little bit. Once I get my loan paid off, I will take over your payments too, I just can't afford a mortgage and over 30 grand worth of student loans right now"

"well maybe you should get a second job"

"and do what with my son, let you watch him, so you can throw it in my face, never met grandparents who treat babysitting their firsst grandson like it's a huge burden and favor to own kids, most would be just happy to see them as much as you do"
 
I don't to my parents anymore.... because they do this

"Hey mom, I loaned you 500 last month, I need atleast 100 back to pay for "whatever"

"Well Nick, I watched you son last week, and you know what that would cost you if someone else did that? We give you free child care every week, you should be thankful we don't charage you"

"you only watch him one day a week, and it's for like four hours?"

"All the vacations I took you on when you were younger, the christmas presents, you don't see us asking for that money back"

"But those were gifts, you were aware that I needed that money I lent to you in the future, what should I do now that you won't give it back"

"I have bills to pay too you know, most are from when you were a kid"

and that is why I never loan money to my parents...

this is the convo when my grandpa gave me 1000 for christmas

"How much did Grandpa give you"

"A decent amount, more then I though"

"well, you should be giving us that money, you know I still pay for some of your student loan"

"But that was the deal when I went to college, that you guys would help out by taking out a loan for half, you knew I couldn't, or can't afford to pay the entire loan"

"I know that, but you should still give us that money to help pay it down"

"that's what I was going to do, for my own loan, pay it down a little bit. Once I get my loan paid off, I will take over your payments too, I just can't afford a mortgage and over 30 grand worth of student loans right now"

"well maybe you should get a second job"

"and do what with my son, let you watch him, so you can throw it in my face, never met grandparents who treat babysitting their firsst grandson like it's a huge burden and favor to own kids, most would be just happy to see them as much as you do"


I'm pretty sure your parents might be a factor of why you have trouble with the rest of your finances.
 

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