Sentry gets no respect

[random_havoc]

Yeah, consistency would help a lot. Everybody needs to get together and figure out exactly how strong Sentry and Blue Marvel are, and write them accordingly.

I completely agree. I'd go further and say they need to do that with almost all of the marvel characters out there.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

The street level guys are easy enough; and Bendis does write them well. But anybody as powerful as say Ms.Marvel and up, not so much.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Sentry at all... I just think he's tainted under Bendis's pen. Bendis is a good storyteller a lot of the time, but he just doesn't get the Sentry. I don't think Sentry needs to go away, he needs a new writer who gets him. Someone who isn't best at street level characters. I don't think people like Bendis, Brubaker, or Faction could handle Sentry... but Abnett & Lanning, maybe Kyle & Yost, those types of writers could probably handle him. People who think outside of the street level box.

And honestly, I think Sentry would be a better fit in space, and he'd come accross a lot better than who he is now. I think he'd lose the traits that make people hate him.


Out of curiosity... out of those of you who've complained about the guy thus far.... have any of you read the original Jenkins mini that introduced him? The Sentry before Bendis got ahold of him?

In my opinion, THAT Sentry was amazing. He was very much like Miracle/Marvelman... but in a more Marvel way. His relationship with the other Marvel heroes and his mentality was awesome... nothing at all like he is under Bendis's pen.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've read pretty much everything with the Sentry up to New Avengers after he was (re)introduced into the Marvel universe. The original Jenkins mini is a great story in its own little bubble, but I don't think it works particularly well in continuity.

 

[Gilpesh]

I agree with Thor's statement, but the idea that Thor could just grab him and break his neck is ridiculous considering Sentry physically took on Hulk at his strongest, repeatedly just taking straight up shots from him.

Wah wah wah. My favorite character isn't as strong as another character. Thor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry.


Sentry is a crap over powered character that should have stayed in one of the many alternate Marvel Universes.

 

[JewishHobbit]

His original mini worked well within continuity as a story from the past. Heck, in the end everyone forgot him again so it still fit. He didn't start getting messed up until he showed up again in New Avengers. THAT'S when everything went screwy with him.

But yeah... in my comic book bindings, I'm doing a huge Avengers run including (chronologically) a tons of stuff including all the Avengers titles, some Iron Man, the second Sentry mini, the events, etc. But I've decided to exclude the Sentry and I'll be binding those in either A) a volume of its own, or B) with Jenkins's Inhumans story as a sort of Paul Jenkins/Jae Lee volume. Haven't decided yet.

After rereading a lot of that original Sentry I just hate how far Sentry is taken from that point, so I've decided just to separate them and have them 2 separate worlds for me.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Get Sentry out of Bendis' hands & he might have a chance of being a good character. Maybe make him a cosmic character.

 

[Docker2.0]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Sentry at all... I just think he's tainted under Bendis's pen. Bendis is a good storyteller a lot of the time, but he just doesn't get the Sentry. I don't think Sentry needs to go away, he needs a new writer who gets him. Someone who isn't best at street level characters. I don't think people like Bendis, Brubaker, or Faction could handle Sentry... but Abnett & Lanning, maybe Kyle & Yost, those types of writers could probably handle him. People who think outside of the street level box.

And honestly, I think Sentry would be a better fit in space, and he'd come accross a lot better than who he is now. I think he'd lose the traits that make people hate him.


Out of curiosity... out of those of you who've complained about the guy thus far.... have any of you read the original Jenkins mini that introduced him? The Sentry before Bendis got ahold of him?

In my opinion, THAT Sentry was amazing. He was very much like Miracle/Marvelman... but in a more Marvel way. His relationship with the other Marvel heroes and his mentality was awesome... nothing at all like he is under Bendis's pen.

Agree 1000%! If you got a writer who really knew how to write, say JMS, or heck even Dan Slott and I say they could turn him into a great character. I say find a way to separate Void and Sentry, thus depowering them both to say Hulk level strength but having other powers, and you have a great superhero with a equally great villian. Also bring back the General and make him relevant again.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The Sentry already seems to be sticking around Hulk-level strength right now. I think that's where some of the ire about the Sentry's current status comes from: his few fans actually want him to live up to that Galactus-beating power level the Jenkins mini mentioned, whereas everyone else recognizes that that's just totally asinine for an Earth-based hero to have.

 

[Docker2.0]

I agree it is crazy for him to beat Galactus. No formula made on Earth should make any being that powerful. I'm saying make him Hulk level strength becuase at least he's beatable, whereas if he beats Galactus, then when he does go crazy he's unstoppable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Right, but isn't he already limited to Hulk-level strength? I can't recall seeing him portrayed significantly stronger than that lately.

 

[Docker2.0]

I remember when he was first introduced in New Avengers #5 or 6, he was abe to create matters or monsters and broke the Hulk's arm like it was a stick. Something to that degree. Anyway, it shouldn't have happened. I think in WWH they depowered him to a degree but he could have threw the moon like a baseball if they kept him the level he was when Bendis first wrote him.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Bottom Line with Sentry is no body is creative enough to come up with a good quintessential story for him.

Yer right, Sentry's origin is all sorts of nonsense...he shouldnt be this powerful as a glorified super soldier. It's ridiculous.

He's in limbo becuase guys like bendis have no clue what to do with him..

 

[Gamma Goliath]

turn him into the void and see where it takes him

 

[NightBeetle]

If it leads him getting killed, I wouldn't care.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think that the Sentry should just be forgotten once again like in the end of his original mini. Treat him with respect to please his fans and keep them happy and get rid of him at the same time keeping the vast majority of everyone else happy. Two birds one stone. Killing him would just piss off his fans IMO and that would be rather rude IMO.

 

[kguillou]

See, i just feel like, who is Sentry to all of a sudden pop up in the marvel universe and all of sudden be the strongest hero in the universe? See at least with characters like hulk and thor, they've had decades of continuity build up, so they've earned their current power levels. I dont care what Jenkins says, Sentry never really existed before and its such a cheat to say " Well this guy is the real supreme being of the universe but no one remembers him because the world was mindwiped." Come on now.

 

[PaleRider]

See, i just feel like, who is Sentry to all of a sudden pop up in the marvel universe and all of sudden be the strongest hero in the universe? See at least with characters like hulk and thor, they've had decades of continuity build up, so they've earned their current power levels. I dont care what Jenkins says, Sentry never really existed before and its such a cheat to say " Well this guy is the real supreme being of the universe but no one remembers him because the world was mindwiped." Come on now.

that is exactly how I feel, glad someone else mentioned that. Love the orginal mini don't give a crap about him since then.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I'd not blame Jenkins at all...he was not the problem...I actually only gave a crap when Jenkins handled him.

Bendis obviously has creative control of the guy and wants him as his mongo.

You look at the point where Bendis got him..thats the downfall of the sentry right there.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, at least every hero isn't super-chummy with him again. That was probably the thing that annoyed me most when I tried to integrate the original mini's presentation of him into continuity in my mind: he was the superhero and all others were beneath him.

 

[Obi-Ron]

I've hated the Sentry ever since his status as a "lost" character from Marvel's archives was revealed to be a hoax perpetrated by Wizard and Marvel.

 

[NightBeetle]

I remember a lot of people got pretty pissed about that.

 

[Kitsune]

My problem is he Molecule Man done as a hero... I mean he basically has enough power that no villain in the Marvel universe should be a problem for him, but he's a basket case, so he's worthless most of the time. The thing I like about heroes is how they use cleverness and guts to overcome vastly superior foes. Yeah they can have psychological break downs like Hank Pym, or alcoholism like Tony Stark and Carol Danvers, but the thing that makes the stories good is how they overcome those limitations. The Sentry is literally his own worst enemy, and that can work in a solo series, but when he's in a team book he's either so powerful that nothing can challenge him, or he's in a fetal position, that just doesn't work.

 

[THANOSRULES]

meh..i dont really agree with that. There's threats out there that are plenty for sentry to handle.

Bendis seems to have a running joke with him right now of enjoying seeing him get owned.

Throwing him into a cosmic setting would let him get a crack at other larger threats. Heck he runs away so much it's almost bad writing that he hasnt had more adventures in space.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The Sentry really only works as a sometimes character. It's always better watching him worry about WHAT he'll do, rather than him crying.

Originally, having him as this semi-sane person worried about his own worst enemy was probably the best for him.

Unfortunately, since the Sentry is so horribly powerful, rarely would anything stand a chance against him other than people on the lines of powerful magic users, or super cosmics.

If they broke him back down to someone who bars his power (as he had before) to someone only on Thor's or Hulk's level to prevent often Void emerging, it would probably work much better. Have him more like someone who's hesitant, not broken down and crying.

Unfortunately, his insanity, and the Void, are his most interesting attributes ("What if God were nothing but a big insane child"), and it doesn't work on a constant basis. He's much better off as someone who guest stars from time to time when applicable, not someone in the spotlight.