shooter on the va tech campus

[blind_fury]

It's easy to blame the media when the real problem is human nature.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Pop quiz hotshot...there's a gunman that has killed at least one person on your campus, he could still be walking around or he might not. What do you do?

Sarcastic but that's the point. The level of stupidity shown by these people is ridiculous. Bodies go cold very quickly after death, if the corpse is warm your shooter is nearby. Even if he doesn't plan to kill again, what if he gets in an argument on the way out?

If there's the slightest possibility he's still around YOU GO TO LOCKDOWN.

Stop being such a ****ing apologist

Security ****ed up, people died. THE UNIVERSITY HAS JUST AS MUCH BLOOD ON IT'S HANDS AS THE KOREAN KID

how do you lock down an open campus of 26,000 students? even if you do lock it down, you still have thousands of students still there, along with a gun man, who is still capable of going on a shooting spree. locking down the campus doesnt really stop anything from happening, considering there are still students and a gunman about.

and to say that the whole campus shoulda gone into lockdown after the dorm shootings is pretty ridiculous. thats like saying a shooting occurs at a house, so cops should come and put the entire neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods in lockdown....which isnt even possible.

Your job is security

Your answer is simple

Lock every building

Armed officers to search each building

The problem here is they got lazy

The key word here is thought. With that many people around, given that your SOLE job is to protect those people, you have to be sure.

They cut corners and made assumptions. Because of those assumptions many more are dead

lock every building? lock the buildings with students inside where a gunman might be? oh wait, the gunman already did that himself....that turned out awesome. good thinking, pal.

 

[hippy fascist]

the gunman already did that himself....that turned out awesome. good thinking, pal.

and it would have been discovered had they locked all of the buildings down

 

[blind_fury]

Here's a fun fact, 300,000 innocent people have been murdered in Darfur but most Americans don't give a damn but when a couple of dozen American kids die it's a horrible tragedy that deserves weeks of media coverage and deep reflection.

 

[hippy fascist]

Here's a fun fact, 300,000 innocent people have been murdered in Darfur but most Americans don't give a damn but when a couple of dozen American kids die it's a horrible tragedy that deserves weeks of media coverage and deep reflection.

QFT

It's like when diana died the same weekend as mother theresa. Guess who got relegated to a footnote in the news? :

 

[Motown Marvel]

and it would have been discovered had they locked all of the buildings down

dude, classes at the school start at 8am. by time cops arrived at the scene of the 7:30 shooting, assessed the situation, decided to put the school in lockdown (which is likely near impossible to do), and then enacted such plans, it would be well past 8 with students already in classes. and it wouldnt have taken much for the shooter to realize the school was being put into lockdown and started his rampage right then. just as many students would still likely be dead.

the school was caught in a strange and unfamiliar situation that it had never dealt with before, they had no precendent to reference. they likely did the best they could and what they thought was right and best for the students. so quit trying to blame the death of students on the school rather than the f**ked up psycho with the blazing guns.

 

[Darthphere]

Here's a fun fact, 300,000 innocent people have been murdered in Darfur but most Americans don't give a damn but when a couple of dozen American kids die it's a horrible tragedy that deserves weeks of media coverage and deep reflection.

Lets do this, you worry about Darfur, I'll worry about Virginia. Kthanxbye.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Here's a fun fact, 300,000 innocent people have been murdered in Darfur but most Americans don't give a damn but when a couple of dozen American kids die it's a horrible tragedy that deserves weeks of media coverage and deep reflection.

Here's a fun question. Do you think Darfur gives a damn about this incident?

Why are you expecting this country to care more about what's happening in another country than in our own?

 

[Erzengel]

It's perspective. We can connect more with things that happen in our own country. Yes what's happening in Darfur is horrible, but it's not just a different country it's a different way of life with. It's hard for the regular American to relate to that sort of horrific lifestyle that those people endure everyday.

But it doesn't negate the tragedy in Virigina and one shouldn't post things like this just to make themselves feel morally superior.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i'm sort of on hippy fascist's side just not as extreme...

...yes, this IS all the gunman's fault but imo murders by a gunman in a school (especially when the gunman is still on the loose) is cause enough to shut the entire school down for the rest of the day if anything for the safety of the REST of the students no matter how many students are in attending. i know it's easy to sit here and say that, but i'd also rather be safe than sorry...

 

[Darthphere]

It's perspective. We can connect more with things that happen in our own country. Yes what's happening in Darfur is horrible, but it's not just a different country it's a different way of life with. It's hard for the regular American to relate to that sort of horrific lifestyle that those people endure everyday.

But it doesn't negate the tragedy in Virigina and one shouldn't post things like this just to make themselves feel morally superior.

Agreed. Especially the last part.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Here's a fun fact, 300,000 innocent people have been murdered in Darfur but most Americans don't give a damn but when a couple of dozen American kids die it's a horrible tragedy that deserves weeks of media coverage and deep reflection.

Good point. Gotta love double standards.

 

[blind_fury]

Lets do this, you worry about Darfur, I'll worry about Virginia. Kthanxbye.

Human life is human life.

If it were up to you the Holocaust surviver who sacrificed himself to save your sprecious Virginian students would've been put in an oven 60 years ago.

Half a million people die and you don't care because they aren't American?

Your American citizenship should be revoked and a Darfur refugee with a heart should take your place. Our country would be better off.

 

[Darthphere]

Human life is human life.

If it were up to you the Holocaust surviver who sacrificed himself to save your sprecious Virginian students would've been put in an oven 60 years ago.

Half a million people die and you don't care because they aren't American?

Your American citizenship should be revoked and a Darfur refugee with a heart should take your place. Our country would be better off.

*slow clap*

Wow, you're so right. I totally think that jewish guy should've been killed.

Oh man, you're so awesome.

 

[Ben Urich]

Human life is human life.

If it were up to you the Holocaust surviver who sacrificed himself to save your sprecious Virginian students would've been put in an oven 60 years ago.

Half a million people die and you don't care because they aren't American?

Your American citizenship should be revoked and a Darfur refugee with a heart should take your place. Our country would be better off.

...

 

[Darthphere]

...

Its ok, we already know Blind Fury is a dumbass. I love how he got all of that from a short sentence I posted. Blind Fury is David Blaine.

 

[blind_fury]

It's perspective. We can connect more with things that happen in our own country. Yes what's happening in Darfur is horrible, but it's not just a different country it's a different way of life with. It's hard for the regular American to relate to that sort of horrific lifestyle that those people endure everyday.

But it doesn't negate the tragedy in Virigina and one shouldn't post things like this just to make themselves feel morally superior.

I'm trying to make myself feel morally superior because I suggested genocide (300,000 killed and counting) deserves more media attention than an isolated school shooting (30 dead)?

It's terribly hypocritcal to cry and obsess over the deaths of 30 strangers while ignoring mass genocide in other countries.

Why do you care so much about the strangers who went to Virginia Tech and so little about Darfur refugees. Because VT is geographically closer to your house????

Step away from the kool aid.

 

[Milkman95]

Man, this kid was completely OFF, and I mean a complete nutball - check these short stories out that he wrote for class:

One is called Richard McBeef and the other is Mr. Brownstone - click the links at the bottom of the page:
http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/

 

[Darthphere]

I'm trying to make myself feel morally superior because I suggested genocide (300,000 killed and counting) deserves more media attention than an isolated school shooting (30 dead)?

It's terribly hypocritcal to cry and obsess over the deaths of 30 strangers while ignoring mass genocide in other countries.

Why do you care so much about the strangers who went to Virginia Tech and so little about Darfur refugees. Because VT is geographically closer to your house????

Step away from the kool aid.

Who is saying we don't care? I think its an incredible ******* thing to do to come into a thread and have this holier than thou attitude where you're saying the detahs of 33 people is irrelevant because 300,000 people in Darfur had died. Thats being a ****ing *****ebag. We're focusing on this now because its recent. It doesn't mean we don't care about Darfur or everything else going on in the world. We can be saddened by it all *******. Its just this thread is dedicate to this one act.

 

[Erzengel]

I'm trying to make myself feel morally superior because I suggested genocide (300,000 killed and counting) deserves more media attention than an isolated school shooting (30 dead)?

It's terribly hypocritcal to cry and obsess over the deaths of 30 strangers while ignoring mass genocide in other countries.

Why do you care so much about the strangers who went to Virginia Tech and so little about Darfur refugees. Because VT is geographically closer to your house????

Step away from the kool aid.

So...what happened in Virginia isn't a tragedy because there are worse things going on in other countries?

 

[blind_fury]

*slow clap*

Wow, you're so right. I totally think that jewish guy should've been killed.

Oh man, you're so awesome.

Why would you care about about Jews being systematically murdered in Germany 60 years ago if you don't care about refugees being systematically murdered in Darfur TODAY?

What's the difference?

 

[WorthyStevens]

Why do you care so much about the strangers who went to Virginia Tech and so little about Darfur refugees.

No one here said that what's happening in other countries isn't tragic.

And some of us here know people that go to VT and could've been seriously hurt or killed, so if you could shut the f**k up, it'd be greatly appreciated.

 

[Darthphere]

So...what happened in Virginia isn't a tragedy because there are worse things going on in other countries?

Exactly. Its ironic considering this post just a few minutes ago by B_F.

Human life is human life.

 

[Machx72]

I love how blind_fury feels the need to touch every sensitive subject possible with disguised ignorance.

Just because we don't mention Darfur doesn't mean it doesn't concern us. I live near VTech, almost went to school there, and know people who probably are going to school there. There's others here who DO know people there.

So, naturally, it's closer to home for us, fury. Now, will you get over the whole Trying-To-Prove-Everybody-Wrong-For-The-Sake-Of-Argument tirade, and concentrate on the fact that some of us are legitimately worried about a nearby tragedy?

Take into your mind that we don't have to think of every dilemma on the face of the planet at the same time. VTech is the one at hand, let us deal with it.

 

[Erzengel]

Or blind_fury going to funerals to reprimand the families on how they could grieve when there are bigger atrocities happening right now in the world.