shooter on the va tech campus

Same here... But I still find it sad that he had to go out this way after surviving the Holocaust.

Either way... I'm with you in the sense that I'd rather go out that same way than any other way.

Maybe it was surviving the holacaust that gave him the strength to do it? Perhaps you only find the inner strength to sacrifice yourself like that after going through something like that. Can say one thing, he cared about his students more than he cared about his own life.
 
It might have been an Engineering Building but maybe more than just engineering courses were there.

I heard he shot up a German class.
 
Maybe it was surviving the holacaust that gave him the strength to do it? Perhaps you only find the inner strength to sacrifice yourself like that after going through something like that. Can say one thing, he cared about his students more than he cared about his own life.

I only wish more people were like that.

The world would probably be a better place. People like him are rarely found outside of movies.
 
It might have been an Engineering Building but maybe more than just engineering courses were there.

I heard he shot up a German class.

Its been established that the engineering offices were there, but there were mostly general classes.
 
It wasn't several bodies, the original report was one body, the report of two bodies was after the other shooting. Even if it was two, would you really think someone would kill two people in one place then walk halfway across campus shoot another 30 random people two hours later? Why didn't this guy shoot more in the dorm? People were probably just getting up and ready for class, but he left, then two hours later started the real rampage.

i really wonder how it was through the mans eyes
 
God bless the internet...

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Now that's just disrepectful.

Where you find this?
 
It wasn't several bodies, the original report was one body, the report of two bodies was after the other shooting. Even if it was two, would you really think someone would kill two people in one place then walk halfway across campus shoot another 30 random people two hours later? Why didn't this guy shoot more in the dorm? People were probably just getting up and ready for class, but he left, then two hours later started the real rampage.

Pop quiz hotshot...there's a gunman that has killed at least one person on your campus, he could still be walking around or he might not. What do you do?

Sarcastic but that's the point. The level of stupidity shown by these people is ridiculous. Bodies go cold very quickly after death, if the corpse is warm your shooter is nearby. Even if he doesn't plan to kill again, what if he gets in an argument on the way out?

If there's the slightest possibility he's still around YOU GO TO LOCKDOWN.

Stop being such a ****ing apologist

Security ****ed up, people died. THE UNIVERSITY HAS JUST AS MUCH BLOOD ON IT'S HANDS AS THE KOREAN KID
 
Pop quiz hotshot...there's a gunman that has killed at least one person on your campus, he could still be walking around or he might not. What do you do?

Sarcastic but that's the point. The level of stupidity shown by these people is ridiculous. Bodies go cold very quickly after death, if the corpse is warm your shooter is nearby. Even if he doesn't plan to kill again, what if he gets in an argument on the way out?

If there's the slightest possibility he's still around YOU GO TO LOCKDOWN.

Stop being such a ****ing apologist

Security ****ed up, people died. THE UNIVERSITY HAS JUST AS MUCH BLOOD ON IT'S HANDS AS THE KOREAN KID

VA tech is screwed, but i do realize VA tech is big as 3 central parks,but damn a killer was still loose
 
heard on the radio some of the excerpts from the note he left behind.
some stuff about hating rich kids, debauchery, and liars.

also heard something about him being jilted by a girl.

it's sad... for everyone.
 
I think the President of the University is probably going to have to step down.
 
Pop quiz hotshot...there's a gunman that has killed at least one person on your campus, he could still be walking around or he might not. What do you do?

Sarcastic but that's the point. The level of stupidity shown by these people is ridiculous. Bodies go cold very quickly after death, if the corpse is warm your shooter is nearby. Even if he doesn't plan to kill again, what if he gets in an argument on the way out?

If there's the slightest possibility he's still around YOU GO TO LOCKDOWN.

Stop being such a ****ing apologist

Security ****ed up, people died. THE UNIVERSITY HAS JUST AS MUCH BLOOD ON IT'S HANDS AS THE KOREAN KID

We don't know their protocols. Its easy to sit there at your computer knowing everything that happened hindsight at 20/20 and lay judgement on these people. Did they **** up? At this time, its easy to say yes, but nothing is never that easy.
 
I think the President of the University is probably going to have to step down.

Oh for sure, he's already been targeted as the scapegoat at this point. I expect the same for the head of Campus Police as well.
 
We don't know their protocols. Its easy to sit there at your computer knowing everything that happened hindsight at 20/20 and lay judgement on these people. Did they **** up? At this time, its easy to say yes, but nothing is never that easy.

There's a gun on the loose, How much thinking time do you need?:huh:

Surely after columbine and the amish school a lightbulb should have flashed somewhere?
 
There's a gun on the loose, How much thinking time do you need?:huh:

Surely after columbine and the amish school a lightbulb should have flashed somewhere?

They thought it was an isolated incident, and it was safe to assume he had fled like any criminal would.

Now tell me Hippy, in your infinte wisdom, lets say they managed to lock down the school and the shooter was already inside the building or some other building. What happens next? You apprently have all the answers, you tell me. I know the answer, you would be here telling a whole different story on how they shouldve evacuated the school. Its not as easy as youre trying to make it Hippy.
 
Well the dorms present a diff problem, but they at least should have canceled classes that day.
 
This whole situation makes me sick to my stomach. Seriously. :down

And the media better stop sensationalizing it, because the more attention it gets the more it's going to inspire others to copycat.
 
If they canceled classes and ALL the students proceeded to walk in between buildings, isn't it possible that he could have shot even more people?
 
Well the dorms present a diff problem, but they at least should have canceled classes that day.

Probably. I don't feel like talking about this any further but I'll end with this. There will be investigations, extensive investigations. People will be fired, resign, reassigned and fingers will be pointed, the blame game is already in play. And thats their right and exactly what they should do, but at the end of it all, 33 people will still be dead, and none of that will bring them back.
 
Your job is security

Your answer is simple

Lock every building

Armed officers to search each building

The problem here is they got lazy

The key word here is thought. With that many people around, given that your SOLE job is to protect those people, you have to be sure.

They cut corners and made assumptions. Because of those assumptions many more are dead
 
This whole situation makes me sick to my stomach. Seriously. :down

And the media better stop sensationalizing it, because the more attention it gets the more it's going to inspire others to copycat.

Unfortunately that's never, ever going to happen.
 
Good news is boring, bad news sells. That's how it works unfortunately.
 

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