Shooting at University of Georgia

[Cunning Stunts]

Yes, I did. I read up a lot on school shootings, more specifically Columbine. As morbid as it sounds, it's very intriguing to get into the depths of why things were done, how, etc.

Harris and Klebold easily had the most impact because, contrary to what the media portrayed them as, they weren't much different from any normal school kids. Klebold was a bit odd, but Harris was an every-day kid. That alone shows that you, me, or anybody else could pick up a gun, lose our minds, and decide that this type of violence is the only way out. It's obviously not, but instead of saying, "That's stupid, there's always other options," put yourself in their shoes.

It's the most people who commit suicide do so (which Klebold and Harris also did)... Sometimes it feels like it's the last resort, and nobody's there to guide them the way they need to be guided.

Marilyn Manson said it best when he was accused as one of the focal points for driving Harris and Klebold: instead of blaming them, why don't we ask them why they did it? Why don't we help them after the fact, so we know what to do in the future? So we know how to spot these problems long before they escalate to 20 dead students.

 

[squeekness]

It can happen at work. The sad fact is that if someone wanted to bring a gun into where I work they could. It's not like anyone checks our bags or anything.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yes, I did. I read up a lot on school shootings, more specifically Columbine. As morbid as it sounds, it's very intriguing to get into the depths of why things were done, how, etc.

Harris and Klebold easily had the most impact because, contrary to what the media portrayed them as, they weren't much different from any normal school kids. Klebold was a bit odd, but Harris was an every-day kid. That alone shows that you, me, or anybody else could pick up a gun, lose our minds, and decide that this type of violence is the only way out. It's obviously not, but instead of saying, "That's stupid, there's always other options," put yourself in their shoes.

It's the most people who commit suicide do so (which Klebold and Harris also did)... Sometimes it feels like it's the last resort, and nobody's there to guide them the way they need to be guided.

Marilyn Manson said it best when he was accused as one of the focal points for driving Harris and Klebold: instead of blaming them, why don't we ask them why they did it? Why don't we help them after the fact, so we know what to do in the future? So we know how to spot these problems long before they escalate to 20 dead students.

I studied up ALOT on it as well.

Some people may blame violent video games and stuff on what they did, but I don't think it's the case. They were psychopaths that were somewhat teased by jocks. You read their journals? It was like a damn countdown to armageddon. Do I think it was 100% them getting picked on? No, but I do think that played a part. Like fuel to the fire, in my eyes. What shows how psychopathic they were is how they showed no remorse when killing those 13 people. In the library, they were laughing about it. There was something inside their heads that just exploded. As I said, their journals have alot in them.

I've never seen/heard such hatred from a school shooting in my life than I have from the Columbine shooting. I'm almost afraid to see what they were thinknig when they shot all those people. They planned on it being MUCH biger. Driving a plane into a building in NYC is what i heard.

Jocks have a part in this. So full of themselves. Jocks are jackasses, yes. It makes me want to beat the hell out of them, but with these guys, it was much worse.

Marilyn Manson also said "I would have let them talk, which is what nobody did." People blamed Manson, which was a stupid thing to do.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

I remember when the worst thing to worry about at school was getting caught chewing gum. I say schools should bring back corporal punishment. Kids didn't shoot up schools back then.

 

[Anita18]

Yes, I did. I read up a lot on school shootings, more specifically Columbine. As morbid as it sounds, it's very intriguing to get into the depths of why things were done, how, etc.

Harris and Klebold easily had the most impact because, contrary to what the media portrayed them as, they weren't much different from any normal school kids. Klebold was a bit odd, but Harris was an every-day kid. That alone shows that you, me, or anybody else could pick up a gun, lose our minds, and decide that this type of violence is the only way out. It's obviously not, but instead of saying, "That's stupid, there's always other options," put yourself in their shoes.

It's the most people who commit suicide do so (which Klebold and Harris also did)... Sometimes it feels like it's the last resort, and nobody's there to guide them the way they need to be guided.

Marilyn Manson said it best when he was accused as one of the focal points for driving Harris and Klebold: instead of blaming them, why don't we ask them why they did it? Why don't we help them after the fact, so we know what to do in the future? So we know how to spot these problems long before they escalate to 20 dead students.

I dunno, I don't think any of my friends in HS were psychopaths with superiority complexes... Harris and Klebold SEEMED normal, but that's because they were smart and knew they had to fit in. Most sociopaths learn to do the same thing. Despite seeming normal, mentally they were nothing but.

I LOVED that part in Bowling for Columbine, when Marilyn Manson offers the most articulate solution, compared to the raving politicians in Washington.

But yeah, I don't think most people would look at Columbine and say, "Gee, that sounds like a great idea! I want to do the same thing!" Same with violent video games, movies, or music. There has to be something there first.

That's like saying all anorexics just want to be thin or that rape is just about sex. They're not - it's just a sick manner of how such things are manifested, but there are a lot of factors that go into extreme incidences.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

School shootings, sad to say, are part of...well.....the bad parts of school now. I'm still haunted by the fact that kids like Klebold and Harris can walk into my school and try to shoot me.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I dunno, I don't think any of my friends in HS were psychopaths with superiority complexes... Harris and Klebold SEEMED normal, but that's because they were smart and knew they had to fit in. Most sociopaths learn to do the same thing. Despite seeming normal, mentally they were nothing but.

I LOVED that part in Bowling for Columbine, when Marilyn Manson offers the most articulate solution, compared to the raving politicians in Washington.

But yeah, I don't think most people would look at Columbine and say, "Gee, that sounds like a great idea! I want to do the same thing!" Same with violent video games, movies, or music. There has to be something there first.

That's like saying all anorexics just want to be thin or that rape is just about sex. They're not - it's just a sick manner of how such things are manifested, but there are a lot of factors that go into extreme incidences.

Klebold and Harris were your average psychopaths I guess, but very smart. They kept it all inside. They slept at night knowing they were going to kill people and themselves. Also, I think the reasoning for kids trying to copy it is they either get picked on or they are a little crazy to begin with. The reason Colubmine is admired by school shooters is, if you ask me, because they planned it out for over a year and acted so normal about it.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

I dunno, I don't think any of my friends in HS were psychopaths with superiority complexes... Harris and Klebold SEEMED normal, but that's because they were smart and knew they had to fit in. Most sociopaths learn to do the same thing. Despite seeming normal, mentally they were nothing but.

I LOVED that part in Bowling for Columbine, when Marilyn Manson offers the most articulate solution, compared to the raving politicians in Washington.

But yeah, I don't think most people would look at Columbine and say, "Gee, that sounds like a great idea! I want to do the same thing!" Same with violent video games, movies, or music. There has to be something there first.

That's like saying all anorexics just want to be thin or that rape is just about sex. They're not - it's just a sick manner of how such things are manifested, but there are a lot of factors that go into extreme incidences.

I'm definitely aware they had problems, but that goes without saying. You don't shoot up a school and not have some sort of issues.

My point is though, absolutely any one of us could have those same turns of events in our lives, and could have the same issues, but just be unaware of it until we receive that last push that caused them to go over the edge. Granted, Klebold and Harris had their plan thought out over a long time, but what's to say that even the jocks can't be the runts of the packs that have enough and fire upon their teammates?

The argument that video games cause this violence is... Well, very annoying. I hate making blanket statements, but: You're an idiot if you believe Grand Theft Auto and Doom are the root of our society's problems.

How about the fact that America is wired for stress. How about that we have the bad tendency to treat the symptoms and not the problems.

I mean, seriously, way over half the U.S. plays video games, and I'd hazard a guess that over 90% of those gamers have not ever shot or will not ever shoot someone in their lives, accidentally or with malicious intent. Hell, if anything, violent video games HELP me. I would think a lot of people could say the same.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

I remember when the worst thing to worry about at school was getting caught chewing gum. I say schools should bring back corporal punishment. Kids didn't shoot up schools back then.

With as volatile as children are nowadays, I'd bet money that you'd hear numerous, "Principal paddles child's rear, child returns to school the next day and shoots principal."

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The argument that video games cause this violence is... Well, very annoying. I hate making blanket statements, but: You're an idiot if you believe Grand Theft Auto and Doom are the root of our society's problems.

Agreed. I'm sick and tired of this being part of the problem with Colubmine.


Shootings can be caused either by someone being crazy, crazy and picked on, or just picked on which is mostly what happens. Columbine proved, however, that not everyone is normal. You don't push someone who has problems in their head around in an agressive way. As the title of a Time magazine or newsweek magazine I saw online about these guys "the monsters next door." They had the brains of the monster, but I think some students brought it to life.

Reminds me, last year, some kid in my school had a hit list of up to 100 students. I know the kid. He still goes to my school.

 

[squeekness]

Why would anyone admire a school shooter? Most of them end up dead and never even get to enjoy their own press.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Someone who is full of anger and hates jocks. I hate jocks, but you don't see me shooting up a school.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

With as volatile as children are nowadays, I'd bet money that you'd hear numerous, "Principal paddles child's rear, child returns to school the next day and shoots principal."

you're probably right.

 

[AxlsAppetite]

Reminds me, last year, some kid in my school had a hit list of up to 100 students. I know the kid. He still goes to my school.

Haha, this one kid at my school had one also. For some reason I was like in the top 5. I didn't even bother him. He was just one weird kid. Not weird like being into things most people aren't. Really he was just dumb. Dumb at socializing and making friends but smart in schoolwork and following the rules.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Wow, interesting. I whent to say hi to the kid who almost shot up the school, and guess what he said? He said "I'm not your friend."

 

[AxlsAppetite]

What a weird kid.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

and this guy gets top news over the death of Bea Arthur?

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Agreed. I'm sick and tired of this being part of the problem with Colubmine.


Shootings can be caused either by someone being crazy, crazy and picked on, or just picked on which is mostly what happens. Columbine proved, however, that not everyone is normal. You don't push someone who has problems in their head around in an agressive way. As the title of a Time magazine or newsweek magazine I saw online about these guys "the monsters next door." They had the brains of the monster, but I think some students brought it to life.

Reminds me, last year, some kid in my school had a hit list of up to 100 students. I know the kid. He still goes to my school.

Really, I wouldn't let this get to you too much. Sure, it's great to be aware of it, but the likelihood of it happening is still slim to none. The chances have definitely increased since Columbine, but it's still a very low chance given the amount of schools and students there are in the U.S. alone.

Why would anyone admire a school shooter? Most of them end up dead and never even get to enjoy their own press.

Because of their control. That's ultimately what it's about- taking control of what you haven't had control over. It's their versions of "a last stand." To them, that's the only way they know how to get out of their agonizing situations- by destroying those who bring it about them.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

and this guy gets top news over the death of Bea Arthur?

What's worse is I haven't seen a damn thing about this other than on here. The draft is the big thing on T.V. right now.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

My biggest fear, upon just reading University of Georgia's warning on their website, is that this professor may show up on campus to "finish" whatever he may have started off campus.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Really, I wouldn't let this get to you too much. Sure, it's great to be aware of it, but the likelihood of it happening is still slim to none. The chances have definitely increased since Columbine, but it's still a very low chance given the amount of schools and students there are in the U.S. alone.

Very true, but it's always good to be aware. When I hear shots, I'm running.

Also, I wonder how lnog the search for this guy will go on for?

 

[BestGirl]

Of course there's still slavery and human trafficking. But it is no longer a global scourge. When it was no longer accepted as a 'necessary evil', it began to decline.

I'm not saying humans can be perfect... But there are things we must get better at if we're going to make it in the universe. If we can't help from killing one another, what can we do?

I'm naive, perhaps. It is soul-crushing, though, to think that these things will always happen.

I read an article that said there are something like 27 million slaves today - more than at any other time on human history. It's not in decline.

 

[BestGirl]

Not only that, but the bigger and more drawn out this shooting gets, the more likely copycat shooters will appear in the next couple of months, and the their potential to be even more deadly rises by a LARGE margin.

I forgot about the copycat scenario. Ugh, I hope that doesn't happen.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I hope another shooting at COlumbine don't happen. That would be a nightmare.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Very true, but it's always good to be aware. When I hear shots, I'm running.

Also, I wonder how lnog the search for this guy will go on for?

Most definitely. I personally would hope that my first instinct would be to get my friends to safety, as I would feel incredibly guilty (even though I know I wouldn't be) if some of my friends were killed while I got out completely unscathed.

He'll probably be caught by tonight. I hope so, anyway. I hope for the school's sake, that the professor really isn't the killer.

I forgot about the copycat scenario. Ugh, I hope that doesn't happen.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it will. After Virgina Tech, I believe there were seven copycat or threatened copycat scenarios in two weeks. I certainly hope the casualties are kept to a minimum.