Should Some Marvel Mutants Be Fixed?

[Dread]

Yeah I remember him doing that on occasion.

But still...his beams are constantly "on" and he can see. So him missing is really just comic book logic. Like a fight with Supes, Wonder Woman or the Flash lasting more than a second.

Cyclops needs to release the beam from his visor or glasses and that means some sort of reaction time on his part to hit a button or lift a lid. It also depends on how fast the beam is from eye to target.

Also, the beam never stops; if he misses, he needs to cut off lest he damage property or civilians.

That all said, of course, Cyclops is exceptionally trained. He has on occasion not only battled Captain America to a draw, but been able to battle his entire X-Men and smack them around when he had to (such as when Mastermind tricked the X-Men into thinking Cyclops was Dark Phoenix and he had to withstand Colossus, Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, and Nightcrawler coming after him). Somewhere along the way that has been lost. Usually to make other characters who got hot in the 90's come off as more "bad ass". It sounds weird, but it was for that reason that I liked that brief period when Cyclops was dating Colleen Wing, one half of the Daughters of the Dragon. It was a subtle reminder that Scott was pretty good at judo even without his beams to impress someone who used martial arts as a business.

Dammit, you made a good point, I tip my hat to you Sir.

Thanks.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Giving them their own country and numbers in the MILLIONS strays WAY too far from what the book is all about, imo...

You know, I wouldn't mind if all the mutants got together and lived on a recreated Providence(Cable's old floating civilization). Isolation wouldn't do much for their "hoping the homo sapiens accept us thing" but M-Day jacked that all up anyway

 

[RockSP]

You know, I wouldn't mind if all the mutants got together and lived on a recreated Providence(Cable's old floating civilization). Isolation wouldn't do much for their "hoping the homo sapiens accept us thing" but M-Day jacked that all up anyway

I doubt all mutants want to live in one place.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Anybody willing to relocate. Providence was pretty nice from what I saw in C&D. They could bring their families and friends too

 

[Dread]

Plus, sticking a lot of mutants on one small island target never did Genosha any favors for Magneto.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Plus, sticking a lot of mutants on one small island target never did Genosha any favors for Magneto.

Ha, when Providence was being run by Cable(especially Burnt Offerning Cable), I would have dared somebody to try to bring it down. Only reason it fell was b/c Cable was off on Rogue's X-Team.

 

[Dread]

CABLE AND DEADPOOL spent a lot of time having to cater to what other books were doing with or to Cable.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Sadly. It was nice getting that juiced up Cable vs Silver Surfer fight though

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Sadly. It was nice getting that juiced up Cable vs Silver Surfer fight though

I didnt read that, who won?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

SS stopped playing around and blasted Cable's freakin arm off haha

 

[RockSP]

I don't read Cable...how was he "juiced up"?As much as mofos biyatched about the SS/Panther fight...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

His telepathy and telekinesis somehow started growing in strength. Then he went a little crazy and developed this Messiah complex. Then SS had to come lay the smackdown. But the random increase of his powers wasn't explained very well. We all just kinda went "Oh, ok".

If I recall correctly, wasn't X-Man in danger of dying b/c his powers wouldn't stop increasing?

 

[Dread]

Yes. And then, X-Man died.

 

[El Bastardo]

His telepathy and telekinesis somehow started growing in strength. Then he went a little crazy and developed this Messiah complex. Then SS had to come lay the smackdown. But the random increase of his powers wasn't explained very well. We all just kinda went "Oh, ok".

If I recall correctly, wasn't X-Man in danger of dying b/c his powers wouldn't stop increasing?

His powers spiraled out of control following the "cure" of his Techno-Organic virus. That was always the big difference between the 616 Cable and the Age of Apocalypse Nate Grey. Nate / X-Man never got infected with the T-O, and so his powers grew unchecked to the monstrous levels they became, which is when he started burning out. As was with him, the same is with Cable. Without needing to keep a measure of his power restrained to keep the T-O virus from consuming the rest of his body, they flared out of control, to the point where he very soon started burning out, as his body couldn't keep up with the power, and his powers couldn't keep up with what he was making them do - namely, make himself a big enough threat that everyone got together to try and stop him, thus providing a kind of unity.

But yeah, that fight with Surfer was rad, and Zircher's artwork made it even better. But Cable never stood a chance.

"The Burnt Offering" was the best Cable/Deadpool arc, easily.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

His powers spiraled out of control following the "cure" of his Techno-Organic virus. That was always the big difference between the 616 Cable and the Age of Apocalypse Nate Grey. Nate / X-Man never got infected with the T-O, and so his powers grew unchecked to the monstrous levels they became, which is when he started burning out. As was with him, the same is with Cable. Without needing to keep a measure of his power restrained to keep the T-O virus from consuming the rest of his body, they flared out of control, to the point where he very soon started burning out, as his body couldn't keep up with the power, and his powers couldn't keep up with what he was making them do - namely, make himself a big enough threat that everyone got together to try and stop him, thus providing a kind of unity.

But yeah, that fight with Surfer was rad, and Zircher's artwork made it even better. But Cable never stood a chance.

"The Burnt Offering" was the best Cable/Deadpool arc, easily.

The Bastard w/ the sweet clarification. *high five*

Loved that arc and the art too. It's a shame to see Cable completely powerless these days though. Hope he gets some powers back at the end of this Messiah War business

 

[Dread]

I never, ever cared for Cable or his dopple X-Man, personally.

 

[El Bastardo]

Cable rocks. And it's not really a shame to see him powerless, Spoonsie, considering Swiercyznski writes a good, mundane, soldierly Cable.

 

[RockSP]

I never, ever cared for Cable or his dopple X-Man, personally.

I could take or leave him. I always found the whole "Cyclops' alternate future son" stuff to be corny and unnecessary...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Cable rocks. And it's not really a shame to see him powerless, Spoonsie, considering Swiercyznski writes a good, mundane, soldierly Cable.

Yeah, but Bishop and his power-arm are comin for that ass

 

[The Geek Vault]

Cyclops - He is one of the oldest members of the x-men, his powers are that when he opens his eyes a red lazer fires out which he doesnt seem to be able to control However, Havok and Vulcan seem to be able to manage there powers. So should Cyclops finally be able to look in a mirror and see his eyes without blowing himself up?

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Cyclops can't control his power because him and Alex jumped out of the plane when they were young and cyclops hurt his head if I remember correct. Also his name wouldn't make sense...?

 

[The Question]

Beast - Now with him, following his evolution, in astonishing when a cure was presented Beast and Wolverine thought because Wolverine thought it wrong that he stopped his evolution... However does anyone else think that beast is De-Evolving? This would cause him to loose his mind maybe make him feral? as a person do you think Hank wants to De-Evolve or at least be offered a cure?

Wolverine didn't want Beast to take the cure because if a mutant as high profile and publicly respected as Hank McCoy took it, it would send the message to every mutant kid out there that there was something about them that needed curing.

 

[Manic]

Rogue - sinister comments that Rogue doesnt need curing, she has the ability to control her powers so she could touch someone without it being fatel. So why after all these years has she not figured out how to do so.

I think Rogue's problem is purely subconscious. God knows she's been shown taking powers from her teammates without weakening them, and I can't name anyone she's actually killed with them. I'd like to see her gain control.

Cyclops - He is one of the oldest members of the x-men, his powers are that when he opens his eyes a red lazer fires out which he doesnt seem to be able to control However, Havok and Vulcan seem to be able to manage there powers. So should Cyclops finally be able to look in a mirror and see his eyes without blowing himself up?

It's kinda been established that his lack of control comes from two factors: a brain injury, and a subconscious decision not to control them. He'd need a combination of Emma's mental prodding (which worked once, albeit temporarily), and Maddy's healing touch (which worked once, albeit only as long as Maddy had her Asgardian healing powers).

Beast - Now with him, following his evolution, in astonishing when a cure was presented Beast and Wolverine thought because Wolverine thought it wrong that he stopped his evolution... However does anyone else think that beast is De-Evolving? This would cause him to loose his mind maybe make him feral? as a person do you think Hank wants to De-Evolve or at least be offered a cure?

Beast isn't de-evolving. He's just as smart as ever, only now he's prone to the occasional "berserk" moment. It happens to all ferals in the heat of battle. It happens to Logan all the time, and it happens to Rahne. The difference is that Hank has more self-control. He's fine the way he is.

Nightcrawler - when he lost his powers was human so his mutation is that he turned blue skinned and grew a tale, and has the ability to teleport. However, is his blue skin a result of mystique's morphing ability, And does Nightcrawler have the ability to go from normal looking to blue demon? To me it seems as if there is something in his dna that would allow him to change between the two but he hasnt figured it out

Mutants almost never have both of their parents' powers, and he already has his dad's teleportation powers. The blue skin isn't an inheritance of Mystique's morphing power; it's a trait he took from Mystique, like how any kids shares their parent's skin or eye color.



You want a mutant power that needs to be fixed? Give Psylocke back her telepathy.

 

[fifthfiend]

I think Rogue's problem is purely subconscious. God knows she's been shown taking powers from her teammates without weakening them, and I can't name anyone she's actually killed with them. I'd like to see her gain control.

The problem with that is you've then made her Peter, from Heroes.

If there's one thing I learned from Heroes, it's that you don't ever want to make a character Peter from Heroes.

 

[Manic]

Well, I think Rogue's absorbed powers should still only be temporary. None of that "I can call on every power I've ever absorbed" crap from some years back. Just keep the same ol' "one minute of power for every second touched" rule, or however it went. I'm just tired of all her damn moaning about not being able to touch people, or not controlling the imprinted minds in her head.

 

[fifthfiend]

Fair point. Then she'd be more like Peter during that brief stretch before the show started its spiral into irredeemable suckitude.

Still even if Rogue's bit is, I'll admit, hella played out, they should still keep some kind of drawback to her powers because drawbacks to powers are one of the things that always made the X-men worth giving a **** about.