Supergirl Should the Man of Steel appear?

[DoomGuy91]

Besides the brief cameo in the 1st episode, should Superman ever appear to help Supergirl against the super powered villains? Season Finale?

The villains long term plans are global after all, not just the city Kara is in.

 

[<(o_o)>]

Kara has other allies right now so unless things really get out of hand for Supergirl & the rest of her team then they don't need Superman to show up right now. Wonder if Superman shows up he would be played by the same actor who was Superman in the pilot episode Kevin Caliber? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5673317/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t71

 

[Steelsheen]

i keep thinking about the real world legalities with this question.

then again real world is such a tease because this happened

Spoiler

for this first season, i'd like Cousin Kal to stay away from National City as much as possible. Kara (and this show), is still growing and if they want this show to find its own legs then they should lessen having to use the Man of Steel as a crutch all the time. i think Supergirl has the potential to be its own mythology strong enough to exist without having to depend on the Superman mythos all the time. the S on her chest and Jimmy hanging around her is enough of a reminder that the Big Blue Boyscout exists.

and if theres any superhero guest appearances, i'd rather that it be The Flash or Arrow. stylistically and storywise they look more that they can exist in the same universe. (still uneasy about Supergirl being on CBS though. i feel like one mediocre ep and they'll ax her, no matter what successes she's achieved or how strong her potentials might be)

 

[N7 Joseph Shepard]

the simple answer......yes, he should make an appearance. The real question is "when"? Provided there is nothing happening on a global scale and the action is just happening in Supergirl's city, then you can hold off having to cast someone to make a full out appearance till say the second season. In the mean time it would be nice to have Kara mention how she was on the phone with Clark or was emailing him etc. something offscreen,

 

[Boy Scout]

Yeah, he should, considering the story they're telling. I like that they aren't ignoring the fact that he exists, but I do feel like we need to see him at some point. My hopes for that aren't high, though.

 

[vantheman77]

When Smallville ended, we had close-ups and CGI. When Supergirl started in comparison, we had a body double in silhouette. If Superman is to appear again, it would be a combination of most of these things - CGI and body double silhouette.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I have a feel that yes both Superman/Clark Kent will appear probably in the season finale.

the fact that Jimmy is aware of the secret dual Identity, he'll be in contact with Clark filling him in on Kara's progress.

my guess depending on the success of the series he'll either appear in season 1 or Season 2.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

This was my response to a post in the episode 2 thread. Felt it was better off here....

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If this is a Superman save, I hope it is the only one, and not happy if this is in fact a save. Hopefully this is the writers time to say "here he is, now he's gone....moving on"
But, why? If the stories stay good and the writers are doing their jobs. Their is no reason Supes can't be seen every so often. Look at it this way....Just imagine each episode is a comic. In the a comic written for one superhero (ie-Batman, Superman, Wonder Women, etc) each story is about the hero taking on one villain. Every so often you have a cross-over. Especially, when it is a very power villain or villains. The writers have kinda of put this on themselves. They set up the villains to be so strong and great in numbers that even Superman would have trouble.

The writers should have just set up weekly stories about some villain she has to fight. Then held off the last one as her aunt.

I am not nitpicking on the show. I enjoy it for the most part. It's just I hate the fact they use a DC hero and seem to ignore their are other heroes in the DC universe (ie-Batman Begins, Lois & Clark).

 

[DigificWriter]

It's just I hate the fact they use a DC hero and seem to ignore their are other heroes in the DC universe (ie-Batman Begins, Lois & Clark).

I'm sorry, but this entire line of argument is worthy.

Heroic characters have to be able to stand on their own, or else there's no reason for an audience to care about them, and complaining because a hero isn't constantly teaming up with other heroes is just ridiculous.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

I'm sorry, but this entire line of argument is worthy.

Heroic characters have to be able to stand on their own, or else there's no reason for an audience to care about them, and complaining because a hero isn't constantly teaming up with other heroes is just ridiculous.

If you read what I said. I agree with what you are saying. My point is two-fold.....

1-Not saying you have to show other heroes. But, stop acting like their are no other heroes. An appearance here or there is fine.

2-You create an army of villains (Ft.Razz) including numerous Kryptonians. Then expect Kara too fight them all herself. When in reality it might be impossible even for Superman.


For example. Let's say Fox decides to do a show about Wolverine. Yes, you can do episodes where you don't show any or all of the X-Men. But, to not even mention they exist takes away something from it.

 

[DigificWriter]

If you read what I said. I agree with what you are saying. My point is two-fold.....

1-Not saying you have to show other heroes. But, stop acting like their are no other heroes. An appearance here or there is fine.

You really dont seem to understand how silly you sound, hinging the validity of a hero's universe on whether or not there are multiple other heroes exiating in it. * Sigh *

2-You create an army of villains (Ft.Razz) including numerous Kryptonians. Then expect Kara too fight them all herself. When in reality it might be impossible even for Superman.

Heroic characters have been taking on massive challenges more or less independently of help from beyond whatever immediate circle of allies they might have assembled throughout history. That's how the "hero narrative" works.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

You really dont seem to understand how silly you sound, hinging the validity of a hero's universe on whether or not there are multiple other heroes exiating in it. * Sigh *



Heroic characters have been taking on massive challenges more or less independently of help from beyond whatever immediate circle of allies they might have assembled throughout history. That's how the "hero narrative" works.

Why is it silly? As a comic book fan. I can wish for their to be a DC universe surrounding said character. Doesn't mean I cannot enjoy the show for what they do show. I would just like to see or at least hear about others.

And yes...I understand the hero narrative. Kara showed (succeeded and failed) those massive challenges. But, it comes to a point where too many challenges at one time can overwhelm belief...(yes, that sounds strange where we are talking about an alien with superpowers. ).

Not expecting this show be Kara & the Superfriends. But, for the writers to acknowledge other heroes in the world. Arrow and Flash do this every week. They fight their own battles. But, occasionally when the odds are stacked up against them. They get together.

 

[DigificWriter]

The way you are saying the things you're saying gives the impression that you are negatively judging the series and its universe because it doesn't have multiple heroes in it, which is silly because it conveys the idea that individual heroes and the exploits they get up to have no worth in and of themselves.

The worth of any individual heroic character is not and should not be measured by or predicated upon the existence or non-existence of other heroic characters in the world they inhabit and or how frequently they do or do not have contact with other such characters.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

No I enjoy the series. But, it's hard to not nitpick when you are a scifi/superhero fan.

 

[metaphysician]

*cough* The real problem with this "only one hero" thing? It contradicts the intended tone of the setting, which is *supposed* to be bright and optimistic. . . except that 99% of everybody who gets superpowers immediately turns evil. That's. . . the opposite of bright and optimistic. That's cynical in a way even season 1 Arrow wasn't.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

It's a strange dynamic. I don't think they'll ever have Superman on the show for various legal and story reasons, but he's so often directly and indirectly referenced that his absence becomes a bit awkward, especially given that an entire prison worth of Kryptonian criminals and other aliens crashed down on Earth. (as an aside, if this happened when Kara came to Earth, what have they all been doing for 10 years?)

It would've made sense from a story perspective to have him absent for some reason, and not able to help with such a large threat, leaving it to a nascent Supergirl and the DOE. Otherwise he just seems indifferent to the whole thing.

 

[JC00]

Going off the candian promo, looks like he shows up to help Kara in a fight in the next episode.

 

[BH/HHH]

It would be great but it won't happen while last the new movie is on its way out. I think only liklihood of it happening are after the new movie or a situation where it's him but it's not him (aka Hank Henshaw). Aside from that I can't see it unless it's just Clark that visits but even then I don't think it will happen.

 

[BH/HHH]

The way you are saying the things you're saying gives the impression that you are negatively judging the series and its universe because it doesn't have multiple heroes in it, which is silly because it conveys the idea that individual heroes and the exploits they get up to have no worth in and of themselves.

The worth of any individual heroic character is not and should not be measured by or predicated upon the existence or non-existence of other heroic characters in the world they inhabit and or how frequently they do or do not have contact with other such characters.

You really need to learn some people skills

 

[BH/HHH]

Going off the candian promo, looks like he shows up to help Kara in a fight in the next episode.

Seems like Jimmy calls for him to help from that promo too. If that's the case then I think it's fine, as he didn't just show up to save her cause he didn't think she could handle it.

 

[Batmannerism]

Definitely want to see Superman show up ! Looks like I'm getting my wish next week.

Maybe as a twist she could save him, or help him take on a big menace.

- also, why not a trip to Metropolis, as in Superman is out of town and
needs her to fill in.

All in all I like the show, I find the sister relationship a bit forced, and they need to work on some of the flight special effects, but otherwise it's fun and that's what a show about Superman/Supergirl/superboy or superdogs needs to be.

Hey, there's an idea, Krypto !

I give this week's episode a 7/10 , the premiere an 8.5/10
and I'm psyched for the impeding appearance by Superman. In the best of all worlds HC would show up as Supes, but that seems a bit unlikely.

Ah well, dare to dream.

 

[BH/HHH]

I really don't get any digs at the FX I think they've been damn near flawless myself

 

[Batmannerism]

I really don't get any digs at the FX I think they've been damn near flawless myself

Really ? I thought some of the fight scene between SG and Astra looked a bit hokey (as in it was really obvious they were in harnesses, because they hung there in the air- now obviously MOS had a much bigger budget, but it showed a new standard in mid-air fighting special effects, whether Supes and Zod were CGI or live, the flight effects were a-mazing).

The effects for Kara (and other people) being knocked thru walls has been great, as was the brief bit of super-speed we saw.

I guess I'm probably asking a bit much for a tv show. Did enjoy the heat-vision war though, a real staple of the superhero genre - every character who has eye-beams does it at some point (Cyclops does it pretty much every time he shows up).

 

[BH/HHH]

Really ? I thought some of the fight scene between SG and Astra looked a bit hokey (as in it was really obvious they were in harnesses, because they hung there in the air- now obviously MOS had a much bigger budget, but it showed a new standard in mid-air fighting special effects, whether Supes and Zod were CGI or live, the flight effects were a-mazing).

The effects for Kara (and other people) being knocked thru walls has been great, as was the brief bit of super-speed we saw.

I guess I'm probably asking a bit much for a tv show. Did enjoy the heat-vision war though, a real staple of the superhero genre - every character who has eye-beams does it at some point (Cyclops does it pretty much every time he shows up).

Ahh I actually agree with that the wire work was a tad off. I was actually referring more to the flying FX whenever she's flying solo.

 

[mace1]

Really ? I thought some of the fight scene between SG and Astra looked a bit hokey (as in it was really obvious they were in harnesses, because they hung there in the air- now obviously MOS had a much bigger budget, but it showed a new standard in mid-air fighting special effects, whether Supes and Zod were CGI or live, the flight effects were a-mazing).

The effects for Kara (and other people) being knocked thru walls has been great, as was the brief bit of super-speed we saw.

I guess I'm probably asking a bit much for a tv show. Did enjoy the heat-vision war though, a real staple of the superhero genre - every character who has eye-beams does it at some point (Cyclops does it pretty much every time he shows up).

I think smallville did a better job with the floating scenes however,it was more current movie like but everything else in supergirl with special effects is excellent.

Ahh I actually agree with that the wire work was a tad off. I was actually referring more to the flying FX whenever she's flying solo.

I agree.