Should they recast T'Challa/Black Panther or make Shuri the new Panther?

[Black Is King]

It will be a much lesser version of Black Panther if Shuri takes the mantle.

T'Challa has so much soul and gravitas.

Could we honestly see Shuri or M'Baku addressing the UN like this?
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Even before that aspect I’m trying to imagine Shuri battling M’Baku for the throne at the Waterfall ceremony and I’m having a difficult time seeing that. Isn’t Shuri like 16 years old? It will take some very good writing and performances.

We’ll see. With my love for Black Panther I feel like I have to support whatever decision Feige, Coogler & co make for the sequel. No worries about Chadwick being “properly” honored. That will happen regardless; whether they decide to recast T’Challa or kill off T’Challa and give the mantle to another character.

 

[Vaibow]

For those of us who don't want a recast, MCU T'Challa died when Boseman succumbed to colon cancer. I can't imagine accepting a new guy in the role in time for the next installment. If the "Twitter Mob" want BP2 to deal with the tragic loss of Chadwick instead of plugging in replacement black actor and pretending everything's fine, I stand with the Mob.

Chad knew just how important BP was to the world... he would want it to continue.

To everyone against a recast - if it came out hypothetically that Chadwick had said he wanted the character recast, would you feel different?

I can’t presume how he did or didn’t feel, but I imagine Feige had a conversation in the last few months with him about it.

I said earlier, I hope there are quotes or sound bytes... to put fans minds at ease that he did indeed want it moving forward..

There's something a little too arrogant and not regal enough about Michael B Jordan that he wouldn't really embody the king of Wakanda or spirit of Black Panther. That's part of why he was picked for the villain and also why some thought he'd be good for Johnny Storm, except that he didn't really even show that cocky personality in Fant4stic anyway.

What people said about Boseman is that he embodied many of his humble and graceful characteristics in real life, which is why it came through in his portrayal. It's not something he faked. When people say "it's called ACTING" (note, they always capitalise that word for emphasis as if that's going to make it more valid), not everything can be acted. Some things are part and parcel of a person's real life experience and personality.

Yes... I agree, when you watch CB, you truly believe it, you feel it... it's not about the actor, its about the character... when you hear him off camera, being himself, he still feels like that character.. with MBJ, I'm aware he is acting and probably thinking to himself 'damn I'm crushing this'.

I say, they need to cast a fairly unknown and this actor needs to realize, it's more than a role... it's his life now.. I mean this with respect... I mean this in the way that what he does off camera, kids are gunna see. I know, it's weird... but that's just me.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Recast. To me Black Panther is T'challa not Shuri. We have barely even seen his story. Bond has many different actors.

Aloha, If we stick to Marvel canon, you can have both. I've been asking for a version of DoomWar for the next BP film since forever. BP was killed and Shuri took over only to have BP resurrected if you will. There have been more than 5 men who have played Batman, Superman, 3 for Spider-Man. Yes, I miss Chadwick greatly but the legacy of the Black Panther must continue. Long Live the King

 

[Zarex]

Chad knew just how important BP was to the world... he would want it to continue.

I find it very off putting how many people assume they know what an intensely private man, who didn't tell fans, coworkers, or employers that he was battling cancer, would have wanted done with the role after his death.

Here's my take. Chadwick knew that the Black Panther was a ceremonial title, an honor that had been passed down through generations. Knowing this, he would have wanted one of his colleagues - Gurira, Nyong'o, Wright or Duke - to put on the damn suit.

 

[Zarex]

Even before that aspect I’m trying to imagine Shuri battling M’Baku for the throne at the Waterfall ceremony and I’m having a difficult time seeing that. Isn’t Shuri like 16 years old? It will take some very good writing and performances.

"The Mountain Tribe will not challenge!" - How does that work?

Anyhoo, I think Gurira's Okoye is a better fit for the next Panther. Shuri can still be the queen.

 

[Dark Raven]

Chad knew just how important BP was to the world... he would want it to continue.



I said earlier, I hope there are quotes or sound bytes... to put fans minds at ease that he did indeed want it moving forward..



Yes... I agree, when you watch CB, you truly believe it, you feel it... it's not about the actor, its about the character... when you hear him off camera, being himself, he still feels like that character.. with MBJ, I'm aware he is acting and probably thinking to himself 'damn I'm crushing this'.

I say, they need to cast a fairly unknown and this actor needs to realize, it's more than a role... it's his life now.. I mean this with respect... I mean this in the way that what he does off camera, kids are gunna see. I know, it's weird... but that's just me.

Aldis Hodge is enough of an unknown not to be a big film actor but he has the chops and look for the role. He's also 33 so has longevity in the part.

 

[Boy Scout]

I think recasting is the way to go.

Chadwick’s death is a tragedy. The mark he left on the character and my community will be felt for years - possibly decades - to come. But ultimately...and it hurts me to say this so soon after Chadwick’s passing...the character is bigger than the actor. T’Challa is the Black Panther and he deserves to be further represented on the big screen for as long as there are stories to be told with him.

 

[Black Is King]

"The Mountain Tribe will not challenge!" - How does that work?

Shuri doesn't have to fight M'Baku per say but I feel whoever becomes the next Black Panther will have at least one fight on that mountain, especially after the two great fight scenes from the first film. I'm not seeing that type of physicality in Letitia Wright yet is probably what it is.

 

[Marvel united]

But what if getting a new actor is what Ryan and Kevin think is the right thing to do? I know we don't know what they want to do at this time, but for argument sake, what if they think it is best to keep T'Challa going with another actor and they are not going to change their minds?

Then I personally will respect their choice in how they choose to continue this franchise. But we don't really know what they will do at this point.

On the flip side, what happens if Feige & Coogler decide to have Shuri become Black Panther instead?

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I really do think it's gonna be Shuri. It's logical, respectful and she's a great character. Despite some minor online grievances about it the female cast of BP was one of its most popular, acclaimed elements and it was always going to get more prominent with time rather than less. There is also probably a beautiful story to be told about a resurrected Erik taking on the mantle.

Although, honestly, with the tremendous love and respect Coogler and his cast and crew had for Chadwick if they do decide to recast (for whatever reason Feige's having final say in this makes me super uncomfortable, but Feige's role in Marvel creatively has annoyed me for years. It feels like this should be up to Coogler if he is indeed going to still make a sequel.) I would trust their judgment even if the thought makes me a little uncomfortable. They were his friends and colleagues, I trust them to make the correct decision.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Then I personally will respect their choice in how they choose to continue this franchise. But we don't really know what they will do at this point.

On the flip side, what happens if Feige & Coogler decide to have Shuri become Black Panther instead?

I previously said I would respect their decision in a prior post

 

[Marvel united]

Shuri doesn't have to fight M'Baku per say but I feel whoever becomes the next Black Panther will have at least one fight on that mountain, especially after the two great fight scenes from the first film. I'm not seeing that type of physicality in Letitia Wright yet is probably what it is.

I don't think this is fair assessment of Wright. These actors go through intense training regimes to get in shape for these parts. There's no reason why she couldn't also

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I also feel like if you can suspend your disbelief in the rest of a very committedly silly, fantastical franchise you should be able to suspend your disbelief about a smaller woman punching above her weight class.

 

[Zarex]

I really do think it's gonna be Shuri. It's logical, respectful and she's a great character. Despite some minor online grievances about it the female cast of BP was one of its most popular, acclaimed elements and it was always going to get more prominent with time rather than less. There is also probably a beautiful story to be told about a resurrected Erik taking on the mantle.

Although, honestly, with the tremendous love and respect Coogler and his cast and crew had for Chadwick if they do decide to recast (for whatever reason Feige's having final say in this makes me super uncomfortable, but Feige's role in Marvel creatively has annoyed me for years. It feels like this should be up to Coogler if he is indeed going to still make a sequel.) I would trust their judgment even if the thought makes me a little uncomfortable. They were his friends and colleagues, I trust them to make the correct decision.

My guess is Coogler will make the call. But if Feige does and Coogler disagrees with the decision, he will probably step aside. It's not like he needs the work.

 

[Spider-Fan]

My guess is Coogler will make the call. But if Feige does and Coogler disagrees with the decision, he will probably step aside. It's not like he needs the work.

Honestly, I just can't see Ryan and Kevin getting into any type of disagreement like that. I think if Ryan ends up walking away from the project, it'll probly be due to it being too heavy on him emotionally to proceed with the project at this point. But I would be absolutely shocked if they had creative differences over this, especially with the leash allegedly Kevin gave Ryan with the 1st movie. I am betting Kevin will ultimately let Ryan make the decision

 

[SwordOfMorning]

It also absolutely warms my heart knowing how much Shuri as Panther would mean to a lot of people, young girls especially. The idea it would be "just to appease blue checkmarks" is absolutely absurd.

 

[FlareKnight]

I think you can make arguments either way. They have recast characters in the history of the MCU. Now this is it's own thing due to the tragic nature of it. But if they really feel like T'Challa has more stories to tell yet then I'm fine with recasting. No idea what the actor would have wanted so not going there. But I do think it'd be a bit of a waste to have his character go out in Infinity War, come back, and be gone before even one more film appearance.

Now can the Shuri or just a new character taking on that title work? Sure. It's a historical title within that setting so it makes sense. Unlike some characters that have their hero names passed along as titles despite it making more sense to just give a new character a new name, it works here. I personally didn't love Shuri. But I think within the setting she could handle it.

Personal preference for me is the tough road of recasting. Let the character have a larger arc and then pass it along to Shuri or anyone else that makes sense.

Now I do think they'll probably go the route of rewriting the entire movie around Shuri taking on that role. It is something they were probably going to build up to anyways. And I really doubt Feige has any issue with another female lead superhero franchise. But no matter what it is a sad situation and we'll have to see what they decide to do.

 

[Zarex]

It also absolutely warms my heart knowing how much Shuri as Panther would mean to a lot of people, young girls especially. The idea it would be "just to appease blue checkmarks" is absolutely absurd.

The only problem I see is that the Black Panther title may not be a good fit for MCU Shuri, the somewhat goofy, wise acre super genius. The Shuri that took on the Black Panther title in the comics was (at the time) a very different character, and it is harder for me to imagine the character portrayed by Letitia Wright putting on the suit.

That's why my preference (At this time - It will change!) would be to have Shuri take the crown, Okoye put on the suit (She was shown to be a card carrying Avenger during Endgame) and Nakia (pregnant with T'Challa's child), Ramonda and M'Baku all step up in some way to carry on after the death of their King.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

The only problem I see is that the Black Panther title may not be a good fit for MCU Shuri, the somewhat goofy, wise acre super genius. The Shuri that took on the Black Panther title in the comics was (at the time) a very different character, and it is harder for me to imagine the character portrayed by Letitia Wright putting on the suit.

That's why my preference (At this time - It will change!) would be to have Shuri take the crown, Okoye put on the suit (She was shown to be a card carrying Avenger during Endgame) and Nakia (pregnant with T'Challa's child), Ramonda and M'Baku all step up in some way to carry on after the death of their King.

You know what? That might actually be my preference as well. Really turn it into an ensemble story.

 

[Zarex]

You know what? That might actually be my preference as well. Really turn it into an ensemble story.

That's what I'm thinking. It was clearly established in the last film that M'Baku does not care for Shuri and all her sciency stuff. What if she names him her 2nd in command? Could be interesting.

 

[Holy Slapper]

The only problem I see is that the Black Panther title may not be a good fit for MCU Shuri, the somewhat goofy, wise acre super genius. The Shuri that took on the Black Panther title in the comics was (at the time) a very different character, and it is harder for me to imagine the character portrayed by Letitia Wright putting on the suit.

That's why my preference (At this time - It will change!) would be to have Shuri take the crown, Okoye put on the suit (She was shown to be a card carrying Avenger during Endgame) and Nakia (pregnant with T'Challa's child), Ramonda and M'Baku all step up in some way to carry on after the death of their King.

John Campea made that point on his show today as well, that MCU Shuri doesn't care about ruling, she cares more about her lab. MY feeling initially was that it would be too soon for Shuri to take over but yes, the MCU Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU and doesn't care about ruling. That's why I'm in favor of recasting.

 

[Holy Slapper]

Aldis Hodge is enough of an unknown not to be a big film actor but he has the chops and look for the role. He's also 33 so has longevity in the part.

He was a badass as Manchester Black on Supergirl )EDIT: That was David Ajala) and it looks like he had been suggested as Black Panther 8 years ago.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Shuri doesnt care about ruling because she doesnt have to with her big bro around. Being forced into it is a lot different.

 

[Dark Raven]

He was a badass as Manchester Black on Supergirl and it looks like he had been suggested as Black Panther 8 years ago.

He didn't play as Manchester Black in Supergirl. That was a different actor. Aldis Hodge was in Leverage.

 

[the5timechamp]

I liked the suggestion someone made that the next film opens with a memorial to T'Challa, then they Infinity Stone Killmonger back to life and he becomes Black Panther.... the film focuses on his journey to finding his place as king and honoring T'Challas vision