Siege

[sdc10]

Its amazing how Thor, Captain America and Ironman are easily marvel's most popular heroes these days when 5 years ago it most certainly wasn't the case. I think its a testament to marvel's marketing scheme as to how they were able to build the hype for these characters. Say what you will about Bendis but i think his breaking of the Avengers did Thor, Cap and Ironman alot of good because 5 years ago i doubt very many would've cared so much about a reunion between these guys but now its like the coming of the messiah.

Well said, I also like the fact this event is only gonna be (apparently) 4 issues long so its not taking up the entire year.

 

[fifthfiend]

He's an American Neo-Nazi who happens to be Captain America's Bastard son. Capt had sex with his girlfriend the night before he left and when he was presumed dead. The goverment wanted to keep the baby a secret, they lied to the mother about giving the son to a american family and Red Skull ended up being a labrat for 17 years. Once he was 17 he escaped the facility and carved his face's skin off.

Nowdays he's an freelance assassin and the Super Soldier Serum is like "perfect" in his body. He's tougher then Captain America and while he is 60 years old. He's at the perfect shape.

Right now Red Skull stole FF's Mr. Fantastic guy's latest invention (we don't know what it is) and Millar promised that we get to see Red Skull, Kang the conqueror and Dr. Doom together. =D

Ultimate Marvel: The world's all-time champion at being Ultimate Marvel.

 

[Keyser Soze]

This is purely speculation, but based on what we've heard about Siege, and based on Doom's suspicious absence on that promo image, does anyone else think that Siege: The Cabal in December might involve Loki backstabbing Dr. Doom and siding with Osborn?

 

[sdc10]

This is purely speculation, but based on what we've heard about Siege, and based on Doom's suspicious absence on that promo image, does anyone else think that Siege: The Cabal in December might involve Loki backstabbing Dr. Doom and siding with Osborn?

Theres def gonna be a breaking up of the cabal, one promo image has Osborn and Doom facing off, with Loki fighting the Hood in the background.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Uh-huh...

Anyway, here's another video interview with Bendis about Siege: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23300

Whoever watches it, let me know if anything good is in it. I'm at work and I can't stream videos.

Bendis says that he will still be writing the Avengers after Siege. Even if New and Mighty were merged and Dark ends (which I'm thinking is going to happen, mostly because Avengers #600 will happen during Siege if you time the Mighty and New Avengers tie-ins properly).

And he does not want to leave the book at all.

 

[runawayboulder]

I'd rather see 2 Avengers titles so there's an alternative to BMB.

 

[sdc10]

I'd rather see 2 Avengers titles so there's an alternative to BMB.

I dont, i hate the idea of there being more than one "good" Avengers team.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I'd rather see 2 Avengers titles so there's an alternative to BMB.

Bendis isn't really all that bad with the Avengers. He's delivered great exposure to them and most of his characters are pretty good. The only ones I have a problem with are Captain America (he just doesn't know how to write Bucky, he can write Steve though) and Clint Barton (though he may be forgiven if he returns him to Hawkeye). He just drags some things out some times, but I'm very interested in him taking a classic take on the Avengers.

And personally I just think that becoming pretty clear that they are going to have Avengers #600 with Bendis at the helm.

You have the 503 issues of the original Avengers book that ended with Avengers: Disassembled, 60 issues of New Avengers solicited, and 32 issues of Mighty Avengers solicited. 503 + 60 + 32 = 595. You do two tie-in issues each for New Avengers and Mighty Avengers which will then give you 599 issues. And to tie it all up you have Avengers #600 to kick off the Heroic Age.

And what better to have Avengers #600 to revamp the Avengers franchise with Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor in the book. Add in some New Avengers and Mighty Avengers and you'd have a pretty kick ass roster to boot.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tbh, I'm actually very excited for Seige, and it's going to be great still having Bendis on board for Avengers. Have to keep that great talent.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by NightBeetle

My god, what a kickass cover!

 

[kguillou]

I just re-read Avengers Dissassembled again, and i have to admit Bendis isnt half bad when writing the original Avengers cast. I especially like his Steve Rogers. He writes him as the strong silent type and it works. Although his Thor....eh.

 

[Eros]

Ultimate Hank Pym is a wifebeating *****ebag. The mainstream Hank Pym is a world-class scientist with some neuroses who hit his wife once during a full-scale nervous breakdown and has spent the rest of his life since then trying to live down the guilt from it, even though said wife eventually forgave him and they even got back together romantically.

Some neuroses, while 616 hank Pym is not some crazed woman beating[like that nut job in the ulimates], he has had several mental breakdowns, attempted sucide and had numerous bouts with depression. He is and will always be the poster boy for the darkside of superheroics.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

This is purely speculation, but based on what we've heard about Siege, and based on Doom's suspicious absence on that promo image, does anyone else think that Siege: The Cabal in December might involve Loki backstabbing Dr. Doom and siding with Osborn?

Not siding with Osborn, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Loki betray Doom. I imagine it'll end with the Asgardians returning to Asgard but retaining Balder as king with a relaxation on Thor's exile.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I like that Copiel actually draws the Iron Patriot helmet differently, instead of just using the movie armor.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Marvel's SIEGE plans for 2010:

http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/103/1036162p1.html

 

[hippie_hunter]

Where's Mighty Avengers?

 

[CaptainCanada]

You have the 503 issues of the original Avengers book that ended with Avengers: Disassembled, 60 issues of New Avengers solicited, and 32 issues of Mighty Avengers solicited. 503 + 60 + 32 = 595. You do two tie-in issues each for New Avengers and Mighty Avengers which will then give you 599 issues. And to tie it all up you have Avengers #600 to kick off the Heroic Age.

They've already said they won't do that. First that they view New Avengers as a distinct-enough thing, but also that they don't plan to merge the numbers of multiple books running concurrently.

 

[hippie_hunter]

They've already said they won't do that. First that they view New Avengers as a distinct-enough thing, but also that they don't plan to merge the numbers of multiple books running concurrently.

New Avengers was distinct during the post Civil War era. But before Civil War, I really just don't get the point of renumbering Avengers and cancelling it 3 issues later. Honestly New Avengers #1 - 20 felt as if they could have been Avengers #504 - 524.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Bendis isn't really all that bad with the Avengers. He's delivered great exposure to them and most of his characters are pretty good. The only ones I have a problem with are Captain America (he just doesn't know how to write Bucky, he can write Steve though) and Clint Barton (though he may be forgiven if he returns him to Hawkeye). He just drags some things out some times, but I'm very interested in him taking a classic take on the Avengers.

As long as he stops making Clint, Ronin the Homicidal Maniac I'll be fine. It's so stupid especially because Clint was anti-killing & you have Wolverine on the team ready to kill Osborn.

 

[CaptainCanada]

New Avengers was distinct during the post Civil War era. But before Civil War, I really just don't get the point of renumbering Avengers and cancelling it 3 issues later.

$$$.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Wolverine will remember he's down with killing Osborn as soon as Bendis shoves the Ronin costume on him.

 

[Havok83]

New Avengers was distinct during the post Civil War era. But before Civil War, I really just don't get the point of renumbering Avengers and cancelling it 3 issues later. Honestly New Avengers #1 - 20 felt as if they could have been Avengers #504 - 524.

It made perfect sense. It was so Marvel could have the title reach 500. That was pretty monumental and helped boost sales. It was best that New Avengers was not numbered 504-524 bc it was so different from the ol series. It wasnt a continuation so much as it was an actual revamp which took things in a completely new direction

 

[Tron Bonne]

I thought there was another thread dedicated to this, but couldn't find it. Merge or close if I'm blind. Thought I'd go ahead and start it since January solicits are up for the event, it's been in the making since Bendis' third grade trip to the zoo so it should be a blast!

Looks like it's mostly going to be an Avengers event, but there's half a billion of those so it'll be fairly large size:

http://comics.ign.com/articles/103/1036162p1.html

Noticed this from the New Avengers solicit:

Spoiler

Steve Rogers makes his triumphant return to the Avengers, but is he too late? With the SIEGE on Asgard begun, he must act swiftly, but who can he turn to and trust in a world with Norman Osborn in charge? When the gods fall, what chance does a Super Soldier stand? The biggest shake up since DISASSEMBLED starts here!

Guess we know who's going to be wielding the shield

 

[hippie_hunter]

But it really didn't feel like a new direction for the Avengers until Civil War. It was here's the New Avengers. That's it.

Making the team a bunch of counter culture rebels made it feel like a completely new direction.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm glad they renamed it after Disassembled. I'd prefer to have as little association between New Bendisvengers and the classic Avengers series as possible. Different tone, cash-cow membership, and a healthy disregard for what the Avengers were all about = justifiable new title to me.