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[Ace of Knaves]

And Norman Osborn is better than Luther anyway. Well IMO he is. I've never been able to take Lex seriously.

 

[Anubis]

Check out Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. Bet that would change your opinion.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Azzarello's? Yea I've heard good things. But that isn't Canon Lex Luthor is it?

 

[Anubis]

With DC these days, what is in continuity anymore? No one ever said it was out of continuity at the time it was written. It was one of those stories that could have taken place at some point in the early years of Supes showing up.

But I get your point. The Brainiac 13 stuff was pretty good as well. Truth be told, Luthor was great throughout the late 90's/early 2000's with the president Luthor stuff. It wasn't until Leob ruined it that the character's fallen on such hard times. Look at it this way. Most of the best Superman stories are out of continuity, same could be said for Luthor. My personal favorite Lex was Millar's in Red Son. That's how Lex should be.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

And Norman Osborn is better than Luther anyway. Well IMO he is. I've never been able to take Lex seriously.

Lex Luthor? Lex Luthor? The greatest criminal mind the world has ever seen?

Sorry if I messed the quote from Superman II.

Just kidding, although being a Spidey fan, I'm partial to Osborn.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

With DC these days, what is in continuity anymore? No one ever said it was out of continuity at the time it was written. It was one of those stories that could have taken place at some point in the early years of Supes showing up.

But I get your point. The Brainiac 13 stuff was pretty good as well. Truth be told, Luthor was great throughout the late 90's/early 2000's with the president Luthor stuff. It wasn't until Leob ruined it that the character's fallen on such hard times. Look at it this way. Most of the best Superman stories are out of continuity, same could be said for Luthor. My personal favorite Lex was Millar's in Red Son. That's how Lex should be.

I wanna get Red Son. Two more recommendations; Man of Steel and Red Son. **** Nubs, you're gonna cost me a fortune!

But yea I don't go out and seek Luthor stories, and whenever I've come across him in events or other DC books he just comes across as laughable to me.

And I suppose he isn't bonafide crazy like Norman. See I love my crazies

 

[TheCorpulent1]

And Norman Osborn is better than Luther anyway. Well IMO he is. I've never been able to take Lex seriously.

I've never been able to take Norman seriously, myself.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Not even when he was written by Warren Ellis in T-Bolts? I thought that was immense.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't read that s***. I don't read anything Ellis writes involving established characters because, in my experience, he's terrible with them.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahh man, it was probably the best Osborn's ever been written I think.

There was this part where they were sent to get Steel Spider and Osborn was briefing them. He was like "We are going after Steel Spider... man." And Bullseye was like "Did you just say Spider-Man?" "No, no, no I said Steel Spider, man. Steel Spider-Man, Spider-Man!" I thought it was hilarious.

The way it showed him struggling to contain his insanity and all that. The way it was all building up on him. Then when he snapped... just glorious.

 

[Drz]

Don't forget delicious sexy naked Norman Osborn talking about becoming the President.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

haha yea.

"Hmm note to self: More naked monologues"

Or something like that

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Yeah, Ellis Thunderbolts was great, much better than the **** it's turned into now.

I can see why Corp is hesistant, since Ellis doesn't really try to maintain continuity and characterization when he writes DC or Marvel (I don't really mind it). But from what I can tell, he actually did a good job with the characterization of the Thunderbolts, or at least the ones I was familiar with (GG, Venom, Penance, I can't remember who else was on that team).

Ellis' Thunderbolts is basically just an much better version of Bendis' Dark Avengers.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I liked what he did with Songbird and Radioactive Man too.

The way Osborn treated Songbird was great. He really looked down on her like she was a piece of dirt. Because he knew she was one of the only members who actually had some semblance of morality.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe I'll pick it up someday. Doubtful, though. Besides Ellis' involvement, I'm just not interested in any of the characters besides Songbird and maybe the Radioactive Man, plus it's from like a year ago now and I know exactly where all of the plot threads lead to, so it's largely irrelevant anyway.

 

[Drz]

It has a good shot at Songbird's bum! Worth every penny i say so!

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Maybe I'll pick it up someday. Doubtful, though. Besides Ellis' involvement, I'm just not interested in any of the characters besides Songbird and maybe the Radioactive Man, plus it's from like a year ago now and I know exactly where all of the plot threads lead to, so it's largely irrelevant anyway.

Same reason I didn't bother with Band of Brothers, I mean we all know what's gonna happen in the end, why bother wasting my time with that nonsense.

 

[Anubis]

For the explosions of course.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

And Norman Osborn is better than Luther anyway. Well IMO he is. I've never been able to take Lex seriously.

Doubleyou Tee Eff

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Never saw Band of Brothers, either.

 

[SouLeSS]

Yeah man, **** Titanic and The Passion.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Doubleyou Tee Eff

lol i dunno man, I've just always seen Lex as one of those typical megalomaniacal villains who wants world domination.

I like characters who have mental instability and stuff.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Lex adamantly believes that he can't lead the way to the fulfillment of humanity's potential because of a dude in a cape and tights. That's gotta be some kind of mental instability.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but that's more narcissism or just his massive ego. Him thinking he can lead the world to a better place if Supes wasn't there.

Maybe I just haven't read any stories delving into his psyche like I have with Normie. See I like those sorts a stories, probably more so than action stories.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, in that case...

Check out Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. Bet that would change your opinion.