Silver Age Superman is back now and Birthright is the new origin!

[Ultimate_Superman]

http://zonanegativa.com/?page_id=1886
ZN.- Could you explain which will be the ultimate origin of Superman, Byrne’s one or Mark Waid’s? Could we have X-Men without Xavier? Could we have a Legion without Superboy?



DD.- There are several derivations of the Superman origin with the Byrne and Waid ones being the most recent. Coming out of Crisis we will be leaning towards “Birthright” since we will have re-established that our Superman is the Silver Age incarnation.

 

[Darthphere]

Oh god.


THE SILVER AGE IS DEAD GET OVER IT!!!!

 

[Eros]

you are aware Birthright is technically the same origin story as Man Of steel, its just has some smallville elements in it.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Birthright has nothing to do with SV as Waid said he took nothing from SV but making the Kents young.

 

[Darthphere]

Thats funny, because my hardcover comes with a foreword by Miles Millar and Al Gough.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

And if you listen to the comic-con where Grant Morrison goes off on that fan they ask Waid why did he use SV as the base for Birthright and he says he didn't use nothing from SV for Birthright. Then says the greatest thing to come from SV was they made the Kents young and not his grandparents and thats what he used.

 

[Eros]

Birthright has nothing to do with SV as Waid said he took nothing from SV but making the Kents young.

Then it does have something to do with smallville.

 

[Darthphere]

And if you listen to the comic-con where Grant Morrison goes off on that fan they ask Waid why did he use SV as the base for Birthright and he says he didn't use nothing from SV for Birthright. Then says the greatest thing to come from SV was they made the Kents young and not his grandparents and thats what he used.

Waid can say all he want, but the influence is clear subconsciously or consciously.

 

[sethcohen]

ugh... god i hate birthright...

 

[yenaled]

Birthright is ace.

Just should have been set in an ambiguous 70s time period rather than now because Clark Kent was certainly not starting out as a reporter when the internet was around.

 

[Kitsune]

Oh god.


THE SILVER AGE IS DEAD GET OVER IT!!!!

If you say it loudly and at font size 7... it must be true....


And it is true.

 

[GNR]

Birthright is ace.

Just should have been set in an ambiguous 70s time period rather than now because Clark Kent was certainly not starting out as a reporter when the internet was around.

Ya damn right.Great Supes story.Way better than Byrne's MOS which I couldn't even find myself to get through after the horrible dialogue.

 

[WompuM]

"Ha Ha" -Nelson

 

[GNR]

That was an odd interview.

 

[Darthphere]

ZN.- Why don’t characters like Hellblazer, Swamp Thing, Tim Hunter and others participate in IC? Do they live within DCU although they are published by Vertigo? “American Gothic” was the best first Crisis’ “spin-off”. Will IC have consequences for Constantine and the rest of Vertigo characters that are DCU origin?

DD.- Simply put, once those characters moved completely to Vertigo, and were printed under a mature label, we could not, as responsible publishers, cross them over into unlabeled series.

Didio lovers, I fail to grasp this logic, explain to me.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Marvel did the same crap with the Max line, what's so hard to comprehend?

 

[Darthphere]

I just won a $10 bet.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Ah, the price for asking dumb questions.

 

[Darthphere]

Jessica Jones, Nick Fury, Luke Cage, Howard the Duck, Squadron Supreme, Punisher, all former and one current MAX characters that appear in the Marvel universe proper. Explain to me then "Because Marvel does the same crap with the MAX line" how Didio's comments make sense. Ah, the price of blatant fanboyism.

 

[Doc Destruction]

That's okay, trying to have a conversation with you is like hitting yourself in the head with a ball peen hammer, and I'm not in the mood.

Call it what you will. Guess it doesn't matter that Marvel was 75% of my weekly pull for the 9,000th week.

Back to the topic at hand, I have zero problem with the silver age feel. The grim and gritty crap was pretty craptacular, anyway.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Oh, and I just won a $10 bet also. What irony!

 

[Darthphere]

Whats a peen? Either way, so does this mean you have no reason for it?

 

[Darthphere]

Also, when was Superman grim and gritty?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Also, when was Superman grim and gritty?

I have to agree he hasn't been that way since the Golden Age when he use to use people as long darts and throw people out of windows and through walls.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I was speaking in generalities.