The Dark Knight Similarities between TDK & ..........

[The Sage]

I'm just glad that THIS director actually reads the comics BEFORE makin the movie.

Tim burton didn't.

That's why Jack Joker came out warped in the wash.

Dude...that's from the comics.

 

[DACrowe]

Actually you could make a good argument that Burton's movies (the first one, anyway) are the closest to how the character was originally conceived by Kane and Finger and he brought in noir-ish settings from the 1940s that gave it a classic look from that time as well in some ways.

 

[Bond]

They both have Batman in it!

 

[Malone]

The Killing Joke: The "multiple choice" of origin stories for The Joker, The Joker trying to drive Harvey Dent over the top (instead of Jim Gordon), The Joker killing Rachel to get to Batman and Harvey Dent (instead of him crippling Barbara Gordon to get to Jim Gordon).

Batman Annual #14: For those who don't know, this was a large issue detailing Two-Face's origin. The scene in TDK where Batman goes into Harvey's hospital room and gives him the coin reminds me of that issue, in addition to a lot of things about Harvey Dent that were also present in "The Long Halloween".

The Man Who Laughs: People saw similarities to this book because it was strongly based on The Jokers first appearance in comics, wich Christopher Nolan used in the movie.

 

[DACrowe]

I'm gonna' also site Shane as an influence on this movie after watching it a third time now.

 

[obiwan]

I'm just glad that THIS director actually reads the comics BEFORE makin the movie.

Tim burton didn't.

That's why Jack Joker came out warped in the wash.

wtf are you talking about? joker in comics was dropped in chemicals and turned into joker, duh everyone knows that. its only in like 1 super early comic where joker painted the makeup on, but the modern comics have him as a guy who dropped into acid and became the joker, which i like more personally. as great as ledger was, i am dissapointed he was just a guy who painted on makeup.

and who says burton never read a comic? you dont have to be an extreme comics expert to make a good batman film. nor do you have to steal scenes and quotes from the comics to make a good batman film. nolan liked to take direct quotes and scenes from the comics, but that lacks inspiration IMO.

 

[obiwan]

Actually you could make a good argument that Burton's movies (the first one, anyway) are the closest to how the character was originally conceived by Kane and Finger and he brought in noir-ish settings from the 1940s that gave it a classic look from that time as well in some ways.

yeah i agree, thats why i like his films a little more.



as for what the movie reminded me of, it actually reminded me more of Batman Returns in that heaths joker reminded me more of the penguin, with that weird makeup and dark circles, and messed up look and psychotic personality, the cops going against batman, the batpod coming from the tumbler reminded me of the batmissle coming from the batmobile, and the tone for both films were alot darker then the previous film. so in alot of ways, i was reminded more of Returns.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea but the chemical bath incident was just one possibilty. have you read the killing joke? he says if he has a past he prefers it to multiple choice. so there is NO GUARENTEE that the joker fell into the chemical bath.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I'm just glad that THIS director actually reads the comics BEFORE makin the movie.

Tim burton didn't.

That's why Jack Joker came out warped in the wash.

Ahh Man, give me a break will ya?

Spoiler

Five stories down, and there wasnt no blood in the body!

 

[Comics N' Toons]

yes, that's one of the most ignourant statements i've heard batan say in a long time...

a long time

READ the killing joke again.... see how "warped in the wash" he really is

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

"warped in the wash" sounds like something I would like to be put through myself, sounds fun!

 

[mavsmaniac21]

what was the name of the bat gang in legends of the dark knight? was it the same as DKR?

 

[DACrowe]

Ahh Man, give me a break will ya?

Spoiler

Five stories down, and there wasnt no blood in the body!

No ****, it was all over the pavement!

 

[magus]

I am going to end up saying the same ones everyone else has but oh well

The Long Halloween/Dark Victory - mostly the tone, though there are specific sequence from these books. Definitely the triumvirate (Batman, Gordon, Dent) was from these.

The Killing Joke - Joker's entire corruption of Harvey Dent is all about the "one bad day" quote.

The Man Who Laughs - Joker's trademark calling out who will die next and his tv/radio appearances.

Year One - Batman's tenuous relationship with the city/police. Gordon's character, though not nearly as developed as in year one.

Excellent choices to go by, imo. I love all of them, The Long Halloween especially. I felt that Batman fit the gangster/murder mystery feel very well.

 

[Punisher RULES]

The film actually reminded me more of Jaws more than anything, the way the music signified the coming of the Joker, the way the killings were happening and how they kept getting more drastic than the last and alas, Joker and the shark were both forces of chaos and its something that I thought was cool.

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

The scene where all the cops are clearing out the Gotham hospitals reminded me a bit of Die Hard With A Vengeance when all the NYC cops are clearing out the schools.

Yeah I know it's not referencing comics so sue me.

 

[DACrowe]

It reminded me of terrorist threats and people running scared.

How sad that felt so real, really.

 

[tuffenoughtoroc]

The scene where the Joker is getting beat up by Batman in the interrogation room reminds me a lot of Fight Club, when Tyler is getting his ass pummeled by Lou and trying to keep the basement of the bar.

 

[BubbaGump]

The Dark Knight Returns-
The presence of the media and the “talking heads” makes a comeback in TDK in the form of Mike Engel and various other news outlets. Nolan also takes a page out of Miller’s book to create the “Fake Batmen” a variation on the Sons of Batman, violent and murderous vigilantes inspired by the presence of Batman in Gotham City.

The Long Halloween-
The classic rooftop scene between Dent, Gordon, and Batman is straight of the comics…with a little added tension. Two-Face’s look is also straight out of Tim Sale’s artwork.

Batman 217-
Batman moving out of Wayne Manor and into a penthouse in the city, establishing himself where the heart of criminality lies—downtown!

Batman #1/The Man Who Laughs/The Laughing Fish/Joker’s Five Way Revenge
Joker announcing his targets. However, in TDK, the predicted murders or of public officials, not millionaires. The attacks on Loeb, Sirillo, and Dent mirror those of the comics—sometimes almost panel by panel.

Batman Annual #14-
Pre-Two-Face Harvey Dent showing his…“dark side.” This is apparent in his interrogation of Thomas Shift.

Batman Hush-
Batman’s cowl is protected with a high voltage lining! Nice!

Gotham Central: Soft Targets-
-Joker wanting to get caught
-The interrogation scene
-Joker escaping after intimidating one of his guards
-The Gotham Evacuation

All parallels shared between Brubaker and Rucka’s Soft Targets and The Dark Knight. The overall atmosphere of realism is also present in the film as well (duh). Gotham Central is without a doubt the most down-to-earth and realistic comic in the Batman mythology and the Nolan Brothers deserve a round of applause for bringing sequences from the most underrated Batman title ever on the big screen. See for yourself.

Another joy was seeing all the members of the MCU on the rooftop waiting for Batman. It brought the cover of GC #1 to life.

No Man’s Land Volume 5-
“You’re shooting your men!” Crazy!

The Killing Joke-
The influence of this comic on the film needs an entirely separate discussion. Moore’s “one bad day” theory is one of the most prevalent themes in TDK. “Madness is like gravity! All it takes…is a little PUSH.”

The madness, intelligence, and ideals of Nolan’s Joker are those of TKJ’s as well.

Batman: Ego
A thorough examination of the moral and ethical dilemmas of Batman’s “one rule.”

“I won’t have blood on my hands.”
“You speak to me of blood? You talk about the sanctity of human life…while you lie buried under scores of human victims. Are they simply the cost of upholding your cowardly morality?”

The concepts of TDK show many parallels with that of Batman Ego. A must read! Along with the Killing Joke, Batman Ego contains many of the themes present in TDK.

Batman Year One-
Batman saving Gordon’s son…with a twist!

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My post from the comics nod thread.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I'm just glad that THIS director actually reads the comics BEFORE makin the movie.

Tim burton didn't.

That's why Jack Joker came out warped in the wash.

best line ever hahaha well done t:

 

[Dark Victory]

Jerry Maguire

"You complete me."

 

[CrimsonDeath]

Batman: Year One, Bruce Wayne driving the motorcycle to stop the criminals.
Saving Gordon's son, of course.

The Long Halloween and the burning pile of money, and the alliance of Gordon, Dent, and Batman

Revenge of the Sith, the corruption of the supposed hero through love.

Gotham Central and the Joker's massacre.

The Batman/Superman Adventures, when Batman crashes the club to interrogate the mob on the whereabouts of the Joker.

The earlier Batman comics when Bruce Wayne moves into a penthouse in the middle of the city to have better access to areas of crime.

The comics' Murderer/ Fugitive storyline, except this time it's Batman who is blamed for murder.

The comics' Brother Eye OMAC storyline, the Batman's extreme measure to spy on everyone to prevent abuse of power, ironically abusing his own power.


It brings a tear in my eye to know that the Nolan brothers did their diligent homework for the sake of a great Batman movie....

 

[KrazyJ1098]

Someone do this:

Watch Terminator 3's crane chase. The trip wire and the vertical tilt is basically the same as The Dark Knights 18 wheeler chase.

The difference is that the truck is real in TDK when it flips.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

The REAL difference is TDK is an amazing well-made film and Terminator 3 is pure garbage!