Simon Gets The Pressure!!!!

[Aiden]

Guys keep in mind the more intelligent the question the more likely you get a better response
DONT
Ask: Why The Hell did you kill off Cyclops!

DO
Ask: After seeing X3, what was the reasoning for the death of cyclops

Correct, like I said before, the tone is unessecary

 

[J.Howlett]

Seriously people, go back to AICN and read Moriatry's review of The Last Stand. There, he has a link to his editorial on the behind the scenes nature of the production of X3. There's your answer.

You can't go start a project as big as this with as many layers and characters as the X-Men in Febuary of 2005 and start shooting in August of 2005. That's the problem right there.

It's all there in that editorial. Look to Rothman, not Ratner or the writers.

 

[Maze]

Yes, that is almost as lame as people saying that this movie sucks only because their favourite character dies

yup ..only you have a lot of those people who complain rather in the way he dies..on the real impact of his death ( barely explored) forgotten quickly in favor of other death ( who are quickly forgotten in favor or other big "point") you have people who complain beacuse in the end nothing is that important..you have people who compllain because as you said , at the end not a lot of things really happened.
everything is just temporary..

lame.

 

[JokerNick]

Guys keep in mind the more intelligent the question the more likely you get a better response
DONT
Ask: Why The Hell did you kill off Cyclops!

DO
Ask: After seeing X3, what was the reasoning for the death of cyclops

after viewing the latest installment of the X-Men series, a Mr. Scott Sumemer, AKA Cyclops, played by James Mardsen, seemed to be murdered by his former love, Jean Grey, what is the reasoning behind his death? Shooting conflicts, studio polotics, or just because you guys are stupid ****s who have sex with pigs..............

 

[Nibune]

after viewing the latest installment of the X-Men series, a Mr. Scott Sumemer, AKA Cyclops, played by James Mardsen, seemed to be murdered by his former love, Jean Grey, what is the reasoning behind his death? Shooting conflicts, studio polotics, or just because you guys are stupid ****s who have sex with pigs..............

exactly...kinda lol

 

[Maze]

Seriously people, go back to AICN and read Moriatry's review of The Last Stand. There, he has a link to his editorial on the behind the scenes nature of the production of X3. There's your answer.

You can't go start a project as big as this with as many layers and characters as the X-Men in Febuary of 2005 and start shooting in August of 2005. That's the problem right there.

It's all there in that editorial. Look to Rothman, not Ratner or the writers.

I know all that ,and i agree ..Rothman is one of the biggest problem.. the problem is not there JIM reread my post

 

[Aiden]

yup ..only you have a lot of those people who complain rather in the way he dies..on the real impact of his death ( barely explored) forgotten quickly in favor of other death ( who are quickly forgotten in favor or other big "point") you have people who complain beacuse in the end nothing ios that important..because as you said , not a lot of things really happened.

hmm...

 

[aaron]

Im happy about all the negative comments for zak and simon, they should read and take action for the mistakes they have made

 

[adarling]

They are valid but the tones are unessecary.

Does anybody notice the trend of why people thought the movie was bad? 5 bucks to the person with the correct answer

hahaha

This person clearly knows nothing about movies. When a character dies it's SUPPOSED to add dramatic and emotional weight. Also, I didn't find the script that bad really. Nothing really jumped out at me and made me think thats horrible

But its a cheap ploy, they took the easy way out and that is what many people said walking out of that movie. Everyone in the theater i went to were very ehhh feeling too me. I think the writers did a piss poor job of connecting everything, the dialogue was really corny and they added things (that were fun to hear) but did not make sense into the script (aka I'm the juggernaut...). They really should not have written the story for a major motion picture, television perhaps, but it seems these guys are not cut out for movies....and Ratner...lets not get started.

 

[JokerNick]

I don't remember eating anything grey and green, gross............

 

[Aiden]

I don't remember eating anything grey and green, gross............

eww

 

[FieryBalrog]

How, what was so bad about that script?

are you serious?

 

[Aiden]

are you serious?

like a heart attack

 

[LastSunrise1981]

But its a cheap ploy, they took the easy way out and that is what many people said walking out of that movie. Everyone in the theater i went to were very ehhh feeling too me. I think the writers did a piss poor job of connecting everything, the dialogue was really corny and they added things (that were fun to hear) but did not make sense into the script (aka I'm the juggernaut...). They really should not have written the story for a major motion picture, television perhaps, but it seems these guys are not cut out for movies....and Ratner...lets not get started.

So far I've read positive and negative reviews. The negative ones aren't really trashing the film, they just recognize its flaws and understand that this film was rushed in ALL aspects.

None of the negatives(at least as far as I know) call it a trainwreck. This film should've been a train wreck under the tight rushed schedule, so again, the real question is, could Ratner have gotten a better movie out with more time given to him? We'll never know.

I'll find out for myself later on tonight.

 

[bluewolv]

I was respectful and simply asked if Cyclops uses his power against an enemy. The other question which u dont have to answer but if you do could be answered in general terms was has Cyclop's role been changed in any way since the AICN script?

*I haven’t looked at the AICN “script” since we wrote it, about a year ago. Remember, that “script” was actually a production scriptment written for budgeting the first 88 pages of the movie. So much has changed since then that I’m sure Scott’s role has shifted significantly.

another Kinberg quote

 

[FieryBalrog]

I was the only one in the cinema who didn't laugh at that

was it an eight-year old audience? Its really not very funny.

 

[KenK]

Seriously people, go back to AICN and read Moriatry's review of The Last Stand. There, he has a link to his editorial on the behind the scenes nature of the production of X3. There's your answer.

You can't go start a project as big as this with as many layers and characters as the X-Men in Febuary of 2005 and start shooting in August of 2005. That's the problem right there.

It's all there in that editorial. Look to Rothman, not Ratner or the writers.

Exactly. Although Penn and Kinberg's credits are rather dubious. Yeah, Penn has a credit on X2, but I'll bet his input was minor compared to Singer, Hayter, Mike Dorhety and Dan Harris. I won't blame Ratner because I've seen him handle films with drama and character development and I think the situation here is just having no real time to work with the screenwriters. Singer was involved with the first X-Men from day one. He was there to do all the pre-production oversight, script approvals, everything. Ratner was just a victim of ass-backwards logic on FOX's part. Parts were being cast before Ratner was even brought in!

 

[FieryBalrog]

So far I've read positive and negative reviews. The negative ones aren't really trashing the film, they just recognize its flaws and understand that this film was rushed in ALL aspects.

None of the negatives(at least as far as I know) call it a trainwreck. This film should've been a train wreck under the tight rushed schedule, so again, the real question is, could Ratner have gotten a better movie out with more time given to him? We'll never know.

I'll find out for myself later on tonight.

none of the positives say its excellent.

Its very mediocre, rushed and a missed opportunity.

 

[Aiden]

was it an eight-year old audience? Its really not very funny.

No, it's the kind of humour us brits have. Americans and Brits have very different senses of humour

It was mostly adults

 

[FieryBalrog]

Why is it lame? We really do have no idea what pressures these guys have, what control they have over any of the aspects of the movie, and how much of what they envisioned actually made it into the final cut. You are entitled to your opinion on the movie, but you should be aware that there is more to it than Zak and Simon sitting and writing everything they could dream of putting on the screen. We know that actor availability was one problem, the studio would have had their own set of "demands" for the movie. Its really tough.

Its lame because its an excuse, pure and simple. Imagine if every time you criticized the President, people were like "shut up, do it yourself then dude!"

I have my own job and I'm doing it. If I'm doing a ****ty job other people can tell me, whether or not they have the same job as me.

this is ESPECIALLY true in an artistic medium! Its the whole point!

 

[adarling]

Its lame because its an excuse, pure and simple. Imagine if every time you criticized the President, people were like "shut up, do it yourself then dude!"

I have my own job and I'm doing it. If I'm doing a ****ty job other people can tell me, whether or not they have the same job as me.

this is ESPECIALLY true in an artistic medium! Its the whole point!

there finally someone explained pure and simple why its okay for us to criticize these guys. They put their work out into a public forum and they are going to need to get use to people having issues, especially fans of this series(me since i was 6 yrs old). Its not crazy fandom, the x-men are a mythology that many of us have grown up with and it sucks to see it shattered in a 1 hour and 40 minute movie.

 

[Maze]

Why is it lame? We really do have no idea what pressures these guys have, what control they have over any of the aspects of the movie, and how much of what they envisioned actually made it into the final cut. You are entitled to your opinion on the movie, but you should be aware that there is more to it than Zak and Simon sitting and writing everything they could dream of putting on the screen. We know that actor availability was one problem, the studio would have had their own set of "demands" for the movie. Its really tough.

you know matt ,i know that job more than you could imagine.
yup it's a tought business , yup everything is not simon faut , far from it .And his work should be respected.but , you know i can respect and understand the problems that they encounter ( and i do )but critizise it. critisize what he has done ..a true artist expect criticisms...

So yes , i'm sure that that was tough , that not everything is their fauts ..but they seemed proud of a lot..i just want to know what are their decisions .And what decisions are not theirs..and i'm tallking about pacing for example ..(cyke is dead he is dead..all is in the treatement imo)

so yup that's a lame argument .

 

[JokerNick]

Im going to Rothman's house tonight with a bag fool of poop, gonna put it on his porch and light it on fire..........

 

[Maze]

Its lame because its an excuse, pure and simple. Imagine if every time you criticized the President, people were like "shut up, do it yourself then dude!"

I have my own job and I'm doing it. If I'm doing a ****ty job other people can tell me, whether or not they have the same job as me.

this is ESPECIALLY true in an artistic medium! Its the whole point!

Exactly.

 

[cyke93]

they should come out clean and say that we wanted to do this but because of _____________ we had to do cuts and got this