Simon Gets The Pressure!!!!

[PoSeiDon]

So has there been an offical time set that he will answer questions?

 

[adarling]

Dear Simon and Zak

After viewing X3, I believe, as well as many other X-Men fans, that Fox should bring back Bryan Singer and his creative team, we think the films were in better hands with them, don't you agree?

great JokerNick, best thing i am sure anyone in those forums have said haha

 

[Octoberist]

It's like not Simon's coming back there. I just think that, yeah they lied. He fed us crap. IF people are acting immature over there, all well. LIke wht I said before, Simon is living high off of his money right now. He doesn't have the time to check it out.

I think the difference between the Fantstic Four and X3 critiques are very simple. F4 was flaswed but there's room to grow..it's the first movie. People had high expectations for X3 and some of those expectations were not met.

When people speak up, someone will listen. Look at teh Hulk 2: They're changing the tone of THAT movie b/c of the bashing it got in the first one.

 

[MattC]

It's like not Simon's coming back there. I just think that, yeah they lied. He fed us crap. IF people are acting immature over there, all well. LIke wht I said before, Simon is living high off of his money right now. He doesn't have the time to check it out.

Whatever. You give Simon far less credit than he deserves. He is a really really nice guy, and he will be back to answer peoples questions. He promised he would, knowing the sort of reactions there would be to certain aspects of the movie. People only just started posting in the threads today. He has another movie he is working on, and a family as well. He will answer whenever he can.

 

[Octoberist]

damn, of all of the comments, you had to pick mine. LOL.

It's nothing personal, Matt. I still haven't seen the movie, I haven't 'bashed' it nor praise it. This weekend, I'll see if I like or not.

If and when Simon comes back, it's a pretty ballsy move on his part.

 

[invincible mann]

he will come back
when he has time

 

[pyromaniac]

Yeah, that isn't them, its marketing as pointed out above. And that may be misleading but it has happened with a great deal of movies.

Difference is, the context of a handful photos of Cyke in uniform was that it would have pre-empted the anxiety and trepidation surrounding his fate in the third instalment...

Angel and Rogue received similiar treatment, but of course for different reasons.

 

[MattC]

damn, of all of the comments, you had to pick mine. LOL.

It's nothing personal, Matt. I still haven't seen the movie, I haven't 'bashed' it nor praise it. This weekend, I'll see if I like or not.

If and when Simon comes back, it's a pretty ballsy move on his part.

You should have known

I just hate to see people treating these guys like ****, regardless of whether or not they like the movie. And Simon isn't a coward, he will face people when he gets the chance. As will Zak.

 

[Maze]

The defination of the Phoenix is that she'll rise out of her own ashes. Its something that CAN NOT be destroyed. Easy as that.

She'll be back. This forum currently is being split in two. The Dark and Light Side...

Not really ..there is a grey area : i liked this movie.

But i will not applaud what Fox had done to what could have been a great movie.
And i almost certain that if it is a box office success they will do it again ( look at FF2 :Rushed) that's enough.

About the Phoenix : of course and? does that justify Prof X resurection? scott one? ( you know that if there is an X4 he 'll be back) the ineffiency of the cure?

all of that is straight out from Dallas (the serie)..that's lame.

I say no to X4.

 

[invincible mann]

he will be back

 

[xwolverine2]

i asked about psylcok

 

[invincible mann]

psylocke was practically a non entity in the film

 

[taintedFB]

I'm sure these writers are very nice guys.

But seriously, did they ever even read some of that dialogue out loud?

And character interactions were very poor. Scott only interacted with Logan and Jean. No scenes with Xavier or Storm. I would have liked to see them confront him about abandoning his duties around the school.

Jean. She only interacts with Magneto, Xavier, and Logan. Jean and Storm, who are like sisters and spent all of X2 together, don't say a single word to each other.

Nobody mourns Scott's death. Storm easily gives up on Jean.

Logan and Jean are forced together and it shows...and feel unnatural.

 

[PikaZeroX]

One thing i thought of just now too is how the hell did wolverine get from Westchester county all the way to the red woods outside san francisco, fight a battle, get the crap beat outta him, get back to the x-mansion to warn storm and then they all go and fight? He doesn't fly planes does he? Also, the daylight going to pitch black at night during the final battle wasn't very good either. I expect perfection on that part because it is so damn short...compare to lord of the rings or king kong or any of that nature because they didn't mess up that big or edit that crappy.

That was a fast motorcycle! Good thing that Cyclops died huh? He doesn't need it anymore!

 

[zer00]

Can I just ask when they were supposed to have lied? I am really tired of reading everwhere that they lied to us with no evidence that they did.

 

[pt_photo_inc]

the thing with cyclops is that not only did they not give him the Changes they promised and lead us to believe.... i mean.... his death... was a ****ing joke! no bull****! no grievence from anyone... happened off screen, storm didnt mention it in the eulogy for xavier... just one huge flop and ****ing failure...

but the movie sucked on sooo many more levels

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Don't bring your personal biased opinions on me.

This was a intelligent and thought out movie, for you it wasn't because it didn't contain what you wanted it to contain!

This movie was not mad for you, nor for me, or anyone in specific, it was made for the mass, you just can't grasp that can you Nell?

if you think this movie had one WELL THOUGHT OUT ANYTHING then... well.... i dont know what to say. i envy you for being able to enjoy **** movies that make my eye twitch

 

[pt_photo_inc]

The writers are getting PWNED by critics right now, which is i feel justified but a bit harsh

i think the same thing.. they should get slammed a bit. and the people saying it was all ROTHMAN... screw that! There are certain signatures that artist take with them... you can tell a tarinto film when you watch it... you can tell a peter jackson film when you see it... you know a ron howard film, you can reconize a SIMON KINBERG SCRIPT, and this wreaked of XXX2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pt_photo_inc]

How, what was so bad about that script?

the script sucked.... the one liners, the transitions... everyhthing. The were only 3 well written scenes:

xaviers death
no body heals as fast as you logan
and...er.....

okay there were two

 

[pt_photo_inc]

They really are. Do you think people realise these characters are fictional?

why do stupid arguement get made about the FICTIONAL CHARACTERS as means to build a defense against a poorly made movie?

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Hurling insults towards Kinberg and Penn will not help the situation.

No... you are right. the movie is made. And they probabally made sure there could never be another. but I do know they do read it all and it keeps them awake. so how is insults not going to make them develope thier art and craft more and make fox realize that we fans knew from the begining that

XXX2+ELEKTRA+MR. & MRS. SMITH+RUSH HOUR
DOES NOT = X3

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Okay, it's time to be the voice of reason here.

For a long time I was a bit disappointed in the role of Cyclops. For a long time we wondered why Cyclops was killed off, why Rogue took this, and why Angel has such a limited role. All of those are very valid questions and represent our particular feelings towards the source material, the writers, and of course, the film itself.

But we need to think realistically for a change. Who's to say Simon and Zakk didn't fight for Cyclops? Who's to say that they didn't see the popularity, the posts, and of course the overwhelming love for the Phoenis Saga? But yet, they still had to work within the parameters and did the best they could.

What fanboys/fangirls fail to understand is that the movie field is a business. This isn't New Line Cinema, LGF, or Sony where studios back off and allow you to make the movie of your dreams.

Dave Chappelle recently spoke on this matter. He said those who want to be writers or directors, be prepared to walk into a room full of suits who have NO IDEA what the material is about and be prepared for them to laugh at your ideas. If anything, you cannot blame Ratner, Simon, or Zakk anymore. It's time to focus the blame on the likes of Rothman and realize that it was he called for all of this.

It's easy for us to sit here and say "Oh Simon and Zakk SUCK! THIS MOVIE SUCKS! BRETT RATNER IS A STUDIO YES MAN!", when it's obvious none of you and this includes myself, knows what you would do in that situation and how you would get the movie finished.

I haven't seen the film yet. But I'm getting quite bored and annoyed of overzealous fanboys whining, crying, and bashing the writers and the directors for doing their job. If you can do so much better and feel you can make a better movie, then stop whining and actually get into the movie field so you can show the REAL directors how it's done.

i agree with you with some of the aspect you are approaching this from but when you see it. you will see the issues stemming from the script to the filming.

 

[Star]

pt photo inc is basically the biggest jackass on these boards, so whatever.

he can shove it.

 

[pt_photo_inc]

Exactly. Although Penn and Kinberg's credits are rather dubious. Yeah, Penn has a credit on X2, but I'll bet his input was minor compared to Singer, Hayter, Mike Dorhety and Dan Harris. I won't blame Ratner because I've seen him handle films with drama and character development and I think the situation here is just having no real time to work with the screenwriters. Singer was involved with the first X-Men from day one. He was there to do all the pre-production oversight, script approvals, everything. Ratner was just a victim of ass-backwards logic on FOX's part. Parts were being cast before Ratner was even brought in!

and RATNER has admitted himself that he has ADD and cant stay with a scene that long. hence.... why we have wolver and storm soooooooooooo ****ing devistated over xaviers death... not caring about cyclops and it last for one scene in jeans house then all remorse is gone. They never even make a sad face for SCOTT. this IS RATNER

 

[pt_photo_inc]

I agree with you about the writters, there were given guidlines about the story, I guarentee they were told to keep the movie under 2 hours, kill of cylops and many other things, and I bet you after their first draft, the studio made them change things that they didn't like. I can though, blame Ratner, not about the story, but about the way the film is shot and about how Halle and Hugh really aren't trying, it's his responsibilty to get the most out of the actors........

so true! and it is the writer job to do something with the guidlines they were given... singer had no issue in x2