Simon Gets The Pressure!!!!

[CapBeerCino]

From an interview conducted by DAVID GERMAIN
AP Movie Writer

Paquin: I still never get to do anything. Three movies, absolutely no action. It’s kind of amazing. I managed to survive three action comic-book movies and pretty much almost not to see one single bit of real violence or, you know, action sequences.
Berry: You’ll have to do a Rogue spinoff, just so you can do something.

Poor gal...

 

[silver_arrow]

Well ok Aiden that's your opinion no problem

personnally i thought the "we are Xmen" line was cliched and ridiculous.

as was the "all the boys want the same thing" ( something from Dawson)

the line of the Juggernaut were all over the top and cheesy.

but again that's my opinion.

My friends love the one liners and they're picky. They love it because they weren't expecting more. Xmen is fun and enjoyable. What kind of xmen do you want it to be? If you're thinking an LOTR caliber, then FOX should redo everything starting frm x1.

alright since you think lines are cheesy and not witty..give me a better version for this pyro and iceman scene:

PYRO: You should go back to school
Iceman: You shouldn't have left.

 

[X-Vengeance]

Can I just ask when they were supposed to have lied? I am really tired of reading everwhere that they lied to us with no evidence that they did. I know for a fact they both spent a lot of time trying to work out how to word answers so that they could give a response without ruining the movie an/or lieing.

You're pretty clever and I'm sure you used the "Locked Forums" time to clean up some of the PR Bullcrap (ie. LIES) those writers spewed to innocent fans over there. Luckily, there are still fingerprints left.

Brett was fantastic. He has a really infectious energy. He was a fan of the comics and cartoons as a kid, and he translated his love of the X-Men to the film. He's also one of the most open, collaborative directors I've ever met, so the set was a really creative place.

Brett was never a fan of the X-Men Comics. Neither was Kinberg or Penn, this was just one big snowjob to try to appease fans and this quote was a direct lie but again this is on a smaller scale compare to the larger ones that were distributed on your forum.

I have lots of favorite scenes. One of my favorite scenes is the one where Jean wakes up in the infirmary with Logan. Zak Penn and I really worked as a team on this film, so the scenes are ours together. All of my favorite scenes are ones with Jean/Phoenix. I think they're as emotional and charged and dangerous as anything we've seen in the previous X-Men movies.

What's great about this is that Kinberg owns up to the fact that this crapfest is something he concepted and then developed all on his own. Here he conveys his responsibility for the atrocities in this film. Thus, they ARE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE AS RATNER and FOX

There are so many stories from the comics that I would love to see on the big-screen. I’m a religious “Days of Future Past” fan, and I love all the Weapon X storylines – though I guess that’s more appropriate for the Wolverine spinoff. Our biggest inspirations for X3 were clearly the Dark Phoenix Saga (my favorite storyline in the history of comics) and Joss Whedon’s “Gifted” run.

Honestly, how could he say that he's a fan of the Phoenix Saga when the story has almost no relevance in the film. Their treatment of this classic Marvel Story is criminal. Jean's transformation from Phoenix in X2 into X3's Dark Willow is disasterous. Also insulting to our intelligence. I find it hard to believe that if they were true fans of this story (or actual comicbook fans) they would have given it the treatment they did. Fans don't chop up stories such as these. They embellish or exhibit a passion on it, this film didn't exude any passion whatsoever.

Yes, Rogue kicks some ass. Also, her journey in this film is more complicated and emotional than anything she experienced in the first two movies.

Now this is one of the Bigger LIES they spread on that forum. This is a blatant lie from them because as Hugh's Mrs. posted above this never happened. Lucky for Penn and Kinberg most of your visitors are teenagers so doing the snowjob they performed didn't require too much muscle.

I’m a huge Famke fan too. Yes, Jean is seriously badass. Seriously. I can’t say much more, but Phoenix will not disappoint. The effects are going to be mind-blowing, unlike anything you’ve ever seen. More importantly, Famke is stunning in the role. She was born to play this character. Nothing you’ve ever seen of her work can prepare you for her performance in this film.

MIND BLOWING? The X2 Phoenix effect was more mind blowing than what we are treated with in X3. I don't know why they continued to decieve the fans this way by saying she was going to have a stunning role. She barely had 7 lines. That IS NOT STUNNING.

Simon, When you were deciding on which new characters to bring in and on which older characters to expand. What influenced your decisions?

My initial decisions were based on my own favorites. I grew up on these comics and cartoons, so I tried to include the characters I loved as a kid, and continue to love as a (semi) grown-up. There were certain characters that Zak and I felt really strongly about, and we fought for those characters. Then we picked the ones that helped service the story. Ultimately, secondary characters are there to propel the narrative, and bolster the primary characters. They serve a role, so we wanted to make sure they were both functional and fun. We also really wanted to expand some of the characters from the previous films, which is why you’ll see more of Kitty and Colossus in this movie. I'm sure that'll make some people happy...

This is a complete lie. The Licensing Division purchases the character rights. Kinberg has very little way of what gets placed into this film. Mainly because most of the main characters (ie. Juggernaut, Beast, Angel, etc..) were purchased during Bryan's reign but the additions of Omega Kid, Callisto came later and possibly at a cheaper rate since they were B level characters.

I love Cyclops. Sorry Ghostman for not answering this earlier, but I guess I missed your first post. I was a huge Cyclops fan from the comics growing up. He has some very dramatic scenes in this film, and definitely a few surprises. The Cyclops/Scott in X3 is not the clean-cut boy from the first two films. Jean’s death in X2 really impacted him.

What suprises? This is another ploy. A deceptive game they played on the Cyclops fans.

And sadly there are even MORE BS Lies like this on that Q&A.

This is only the beginning there are many more traces of their deception throughout the Q&A sessions. Which was/is only a publicity stunt to squelch the leaked images on your forum. They should also continue to take as much heat as the fans can dish out and more for the huge manipulation they inflicted on this community.

If it wasn't for those images those writers would never have even bothered with the Q&A in the first place.

 

[pt_photo_inc]

I would reverse most of your picks for which scene was better but this one jumped out at me. The best scene with Iceman in X3 was Bobby and Kitty skating in the pond while Rogue watched from the window. The scene in X2 you refer to was like fingernails on a chalkboard. "Have you ever tried NOT being a Singer fanboy?"

well that is funny cause the bobby kitty scene was freaking weak! I mean... laughable weak! it was one of the only scene that everyone hated all the way around. 45 seconds of two kids skating and one looking out the window doesnt come close to the bobbys parents scene. but honestly if you liked that scene i have nothing to argue with you cause you and i are not going to agree on anything.

 

[pt_photo_inc]

He would have done much better if he had more time

again with all this wishful thinking.. what in ratners history... seriously.. someone tell me... what in his creditials makes anyone on this board truely believe that ratner was capable of making a good x3... even if he had more time??????????? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?

 

[Aiden]

again with all this wishful thinking.. what in ratners history... seriously.. someone tell me... what in his creditials makes anyone on this board truely believe that ratner was capable of making a good x3... even if he had more time??????????? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?

Yes, he made a good movie to me and it could have been better if he had more than 6 weeks to prepare

 

[MattC]

You're pretty clever and I'm sure you used the "Locked Forums" time to clean up some of the PR Bullcrap (ie. LIES) those writers spewed to innocent fans over there. Luckily, there are still fingerprints left.

I don't know what "locked" forums you are referring to. We have a rubbish bin that we move deleted posts to, but thats about it these days.

I personally have better things to do with my time than to read through all those threads to delete supposed "lies". Besides, many people copied the answers all over the net, there is no way I could remove things from other places even if I wanted to. They aren't liars.

Sorry that you can't find anything more incriminating, but it simply was not there to begin with.

 

[Avalanche]

^

Rogue kicking some serious ass clearly wasn't truthful. The one action scene she had, Colossus had to touch her to transfer his power. She didn't even do it herself. Neither did she kick any ass in the sassy character personality self. Rogue did not kick ass in X3 in any way, shape or form.

That's a glaring stretch of the truth in my mind. Telling the fans what they want to hear.

 

[MattC]

^

Rogue kicking some serious ass clearly wasn't truthful. The one action scene she had, Colossus had to touch her to transfer his power. She didn't even do it herself. Neither did she kick any ass in the sassy character personality self. Rogue did not kick ass in X3 in any way, shape or form.

That's a glaring stretch of the truth in my mind. Telling the fans what they want to hear.

Yeah, but for all we know she did kick ass and it got cut. Storm's tidal wave did, we know that only because it was shown in the trailer. We'll have to wait and see what they say.

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

Yeah, but for all we know she did kick ass and it got cut. Storm's tidal wave did, we know that only because it was shown in the trailer. We'll have to wait and see what they say.

Mattc

Anna herself has said that she didn't get any real action scenes. If she'd filmed a scene that ended up on the cutting room floor she would've stated it that way.

Kinberg and Penn totally overinflated Scott's role. They may not have been able to come right out and say he only had a couple of scenes before being vaporized but they didn't have to make it seem as if we'd severely underestimated his screentime.

I understand they got frustrated with the repeated Cyclops questions but when they agreed to participate on the board they should've been prepared to deal with anything thrown at them not just the buttkissing. They shouldn't have claimed that Fox wasn't aware they were interacting with the fans because that means that the deception was their decision and not dictated by the studio. I was surprised to see them admit that studio politics played a part in the Marsden situation.

If I were them I wouldn't bother coming back to face the wrath of the Cyclops fans. They've done their PR job for Fox and want to move onto their next project.

 

[GothicPowerMix1]

They aren't liars

So you dont think they did "Misled" the Fans ? Saying things like

Fans of certain Characters will not be disappointed with how each Character Story ends

Only 30 Seconds cut out of the Entire Movie

Cyclops Fans will be happy with Cyclops

Rogue Fans will be happy with Rogue

They also said that the AICN Script review from last year was from an "Idea Draft" & that most of the stuff does not at all happen in the Movie when pretty much EVERYTHING from that Script Review DID happen in the Movie ?

I can go on & on & you are saying they never said any of these things ? You can live in your dream World if you want. But if you ask me they NEVER should have done this

 

[Maze]

My friends love the one liners and they're picky. They love it because they weren't expecting more. Xmen is fun and enjoyable. What kind of xmen do you want it to be? If you're thinking an LOTR caliber, then FOX should redo everything starting frm x1.

alright since you think lines are cheesy and not witty..give me a better version for this pyro and iceman scene:

PYRO: You should go back to school
Iceman: You shouldn't have left.

but i found it fun as a whole you know But in a trashy way..and i don't wan't to see that anymore for the Xmen.

..yup i would prefer LOTR caliber, ..the Xmen deserve it.

As for the lines , so tell me you are of those people that think that because you are not a screen riter you can't criticize what you like or not?

So i guess that because you are no cook (? ) you will eat anything even if (and that is an extreme example )you wan't to vomit?

I rolled my eyes with those lines because i found them often easy too self conscious ....like they were trying to be witty ..When i heard them i felt i was seeing the screenwriter writing it (and the pyro /iceman is not the worse)

 

[bosef982]

well somewhere i had laid out all the scenes in X2 to X3 but now cant find them... so i will do this once more.



BEST WOLVERINE FIGHT:

X2- Wolverine defends the school... fights lady death strike and takes a bullet to the head! Also flashbacks of WEAPON X

X3- Wolverine runs through the woods slashing at no bodies with choppy weak and way to fast fight scenes. also walks towards jean as everything burns but his hair.


BEST SCENE WITH ICEMAN:
X2- Bobby goes back to his home in boston only to build on the character depth of dealing with REAL LIFE as a mutant and ends up in a world of hurt because of his brother

X3- "You should have never left!" a line used while "ICED UP" and head butts pyro... which in turn... KILL PYRO? where did he go? never woke up? burned by PHOENIX?????

BEST SCENE WITH MAGNETO

X2- Magneto breaks out of prison. HOLY CRAP! AUDIENCE GO CRAZY! well written and delievered! the smirk on his face as he kills the guards is priceless.

X3- Magneto crushes some cars heading towards him- showing his massive display of power! Scene last 10 second and was all about the graphics not about the writting of the scene.

OPENING SCENE:

X2- Nightcrawler bust through the white house in a scene of pure cinematic genuis, showing audiences they they can hold thier breath for about 5 minutes as long as the scene is cool enough!

X3- A young mags and Xavier go to the house of a young jean grey and she raises some cars and mags says: "Oh charles, i like this one"

CLOSING SCENE:

X2- cyclops clinging on to the man he hates as the are shaking to thier core of the loss of a loved one. Then we see the president speech... still tears in eyes, then the fire bird under the water.

X3- Magneto is playing chess, after a day earlier threatening the world with destruction... but now he roams freely in busy parks and no one notices him cause he doesnt have his helmet. He is playing alone and trying to make the pieces move with his powers that he know longer has.

Very good sum-up on how the depth in these movies are really disproportiante.

 

[bosef982]

I would reverse most of your picks for which scene was better but this one jumped out at me. The best scene with Iceman in X3 was Bobby and Kitty skating in the pond while Rogue watched from the window. The scene in X2 you refer to was like fingernails on a chalkboard. "Have you ever tried NOT being a Singer fanboy?"

Just becuase you put a smiling face after a comment like that, doesn't make it any less insinuative of your own character.

Rogue watching from a window is great -- okay. However, the movement of a character to expose himself to his parents and get them to accept him, all the while while on the run, bring to the fore the central issues of X-Men, and then having to leave them in an action sequence that grows FROM the action, is much better than skating on ice.

 

[X-Vengeance]

So you dont think they did "Misled" the Fans ? Saying things like

Fans of certain Characters will not be disappointed with how each Character Story ends

Only 30 Seconds cut out of the Entire Movie

Cyclops Fans will be happy with Cyclops

Rogue Fans will be happy with Rogue

They also said that the AICN Script review from last year was from an "Idea Draft" & that most of the stuff does not at all happen in the Movie when pretty much EVERYTHING from that Script Review DID happen in the Movie ?

I can go on & on & you are saying they never said any of these things ? You can live in your dream World if you want. But if you ask me they NEVER should have done this

Gothic Matt will not admit that those writers are liars because he's already done a deal with the Devil, the real Devil that is.

Everything that I posted above is BARELY scratching the surface. If I go deeper into the archives there are plenty of doosey's on there.

FACE FACTS DUCKS, WE WERE LIED TO!

We have every right in the world to go onto those FORUMS and tell them exactly how we feel. Although, from the looks of it that will be censored.

Either way, Simon and Zak will not face the music. They did their "tour of duty" at trying to extinguish the leaks and cover it up by DELIBERATELY LYING TO FANS.

 

[bosef982]

but i found it fun as a whole you know But in a trashy way..and i don't wan't to see that anymore for the Xmen.

..yup i would prefer LOTR caliber, ..the Xmen deserve it.

As for the lines , so tell me you are of those people that think that because you are not a screen riter you can't criticize what you like or not?

So i guess that because you are no cook (? ) you will eat anything even if (and that is an extreme example )you wan't to vomit?

I rolled my eyes with those lines because i found them often easy too self conscious ....like they were trying to be witty ..When i heard them i felt i was seeing the screenwriter writing it (and the pyro /iceman is not the worse)

This is a consitent problem with X3. The script is too apparent through the entire film. You know they just did something on screen because they HAD to do it to get to the next scene. It's not organic, it's totally contrived and forced.

 

[X-Vengeance]

Mattc

Anna herself has said that she didn't get any real action scenes. If she'd filmed a scene that ended up on the cutting room floor she would've stated it that way.

Thank you

She was also too busy working with Lonergan, the film she really does care about.

 

[tedw]

Gothic Matt will not admit that those writers are liars because he's already done a deal with the Devil, the real Devil that is.

Everything that I posted above is BARELY scratching the surface. If I go deeper into the archives there are plenty of doosey's on there.

FACE FACTS DUCKS, WE WERE LIED TO!

We have every right in the world to go onto those FORUMS and tell them exactly how we feel. Although, from the looks of it that will be censored.

Either way, Simon and Zak will not face the music. They did their "tour of duty" at trying to extinguish the leaks and cover it up by DELIBERATELY LYING TO FANS.

No "ill will" towards the writers has been censored. Whatever you think of them, you're pulling the idea that we're stopping people from getting their thoughts across out of nowhere.

Most of your 'proof' above of lies is subjective. Simon stating the "Phoenix effect will be awesome" doesn't make him a liar, if in his opinion what we saw in the final scenes of the film was awesome. Plenty of people have already given negative feedback to the writers, and can continue to do so.

 

[Stargate]

Simon stating the "Phoenix effect will be awesome" doesn't make him a liar

What Pheonix Effect was there in the Movie The explosions around her ? Jean Flying ? Those are not the "Pheonix Effect"

 

[Aiden]

What Pheonix Effect was there in the Movie The explosions around her ? Jean Flying ? Those are not the "Pheonix Effect"

The demolecurization, water etc

 

[tedw]

Everyone assumes "Phoenix effect" = fire or firebirds. And I'm not arguing about whether there should've been fire or not. But the atomization, rising water, etc. still constitutes a special effect, no?

That's why I'm saying that that example is subjective. Someone's interpretation of "Phoenix effect" as fire might make it seem like a lie, but the words don't automatically mean there was going to be a firebird and they lied about it.

 

[Stargate]

The demolecurization, water etc

Those are just part of her Powers & her abilities just like how Logans ability to "Heal" is part of his Mutant Abilities. The Pheonix Effect = the Fire Bird plain & simple

 

[Stargate]

the atomization, rising water, etc

Those effects you mentioned are just part of her Mutant Abilities & not "Pheonix Effects"

 

[tedw]

That is your interpretation of the words "phoenix effect". That's subjective. In the movie, the "phoenix effects" are obviously the water, atomization, etc. since they didn't include the fire.

 

[Stargate]

the "phoenix effects" are obviously the water, atomization, etc. since they didn't include the fire.

No they are not like you said that's subjective. This will always be one persons opinion & not one person is right. Those effects are simply part of her Mutant Abilities & what she can do