Singer's open to directing another X-men film!

I can't really say knowing he had no time to make x-3 and nothing to do with the script. Maybe given the right conditions he could make a better movie, but regardless- I really love what Singer did with the first two and I want more...
 
CapBeerCino said:
I can't really say knowing he had no time to make x-3 and nothing to do with the script. Maybe given the right conditions he could make a better movie, but regardless- I really love what Singer did with the first two and I want more...

Yes, more!!! Let the guy finish his work and complete his pet project!!!

And CapBeerCino, the quote in your sig block says it perfectly...
 
ntcrawler said:
Yes, more!!! Let the guy finish his work and complete his pet project!!!



And CapBeerCino, the quote in your sig block says it perfectly...



I should really credit LadyVadar for it... she wrote it after the writers said that "Cyclops fans must understand that the movies aren't the comics period"
 
CapBeerCino said:
I should really credit LadyVadar for it... she wrote it after the writers said that "Cyclops fans must understand that the movies aren't the comics period"

No matter how they say it, a cheap excuse is a cheap excuse. You either know how to write, or you don't. From what's been posted here on the rewrite and other threads, a typical primary school student is able to outwrite these so-called professionals. It's amazing how much you can improve a scene or have it make sense with just a few well placed tweaks of dialogue.
 
You are sooo right. And I like ur sig too CapBeerCino
 
There is no universal rule saying a filmmaker HAS to stay true to the comics. It just depends on what works on film. In my opinion there are some things you can mess with and others you cant. For example, Jean and Scott's relationship being essential to the Phoenix saga? You cant mess with that. A couple of Storm's subtle personality traits? No big deal. Why is it a big deal that Storm has a little vulnerability? I dont think that line in X1 was supposed to mean that she actually cowers in front of humans, it just meant that she was afraid of what they could do (registration act, Sentinels, etc.) What mutant wouldnt be afraid of that kind of persecution? Its only natural. As far as what you said concerning Jean...I was only talking about Jean in the first two films. You can bash whatever they did to Phoenix's character in X3 all you want b/c I'm not here to defend that film, as I pretty much made clear in my above post. "For the love of," great response there. You really showed me. About Iceman, all I said was there was a LITTLE of his prankster side in X1...the scene where he freezes Pyro's fireball and gets him into trouble.[/quote]

I actually think it`s a bigger deal that they changed Storm`s personality than Scott and Jean being pivotal to the Phoenix story. Why? Because super-heroes and especially action movies, personality is everything. You could tell any stories but if the characters make an impression and stay that way for while, people will be forgiving. On the other hand stories can be changed and interpreted in a lot of different ways. You don`t have to have the Hellfire Club for Phoenix(even though it`s them that make her DArk Phoenix). And while she sacrificed himself in X2, Singer didn`t have stop Cyclops from going and they were not in space. Phoenix can still be Phoenix no matter what. But if Storm doesn`t act like Storm in the comics that means well...that she`s NOT Storm. Period.
 
I'd be very surprised to see Fox allowing Singer to direct another X-Men film.
 
Stripesy Strip said:
There is no universal rule saying a filmmaker HAS to stay true to the comics. It just depends on what works on film. In my opinion there are some things you can mess with and others you cant. For example, Jean and Scott's relationship being essential to the Phoenix saga? You cant mess with that. A couple of Storm's subtle personality traits? No big deal. Why is it a big deal that Storm has a little vulnerability? I dont think that line in X1 was supposed to mean that she actually cowers in front of humans, it just meant that she was afraid of what they could do (registration act, Sentinels, etc.) What mutant wouldnt be afraid of that kind of persecution? Its only natural. As far as what you said concerning Jean...I was only talking about Jean in the first two films. You can bash whatever they did to Phoenix's character in X3 all you want b/c I'm not here to defend that film, as I pretty much made clear in my above post. "For the love of," great response there. You really showed me. About Iceman, all I said was there was a LITTLE of his prankster side in X1...the scene where he freezes Pyro's fireball and gets him into trouble.


Tell that to Nolan, Singer, and Raimi.
 
lol! I know right? Like they'll listen...j/k
 
I don't want to start anything, I'm just curious.

Did you guys see what Singer did to SR? Why would you want him near an X-film again? I know he did quite well in the first two, but doesn't the thought of something like SR happening to this franchise scare you? Or is it that you actually liked SR?

Again, I'm not starting anything, I'd just like to hear your thoughts.
 
What did Singer do a great film like superman returns I wonder?...I say a great superman film that the only down part was the kid plot..Singer got the same criticisim with the first x-men movie...look how x2 turned to be...a classic..singer started out the same way superman as X-men did and just like the sequel its bound to get better
 
FNSpidey said:
I don't want to start anything, I'm just curious.

Did you guys see what Singer did to SR? Why would you want him near an X-film again? I know he did quite well in the first two, but doesn't the thought of something like SR happening to this franchise scare you? Or is it that you actually liked SR?

Again, I'm not starting anything, I'd just like to hear your thoughts.

Good question. We probably STILL wouldn't have seen Beast, Angel, Danger Room, iced-up Iceman, fastball special, flying Storm, Juggernaut or Sentinels in Bryan Singer's X3. But you probably would have had a better Phoenix portrayal.

I did not much like SR. It was overblown, pretentious and full of plotholes and 'WTF?' moments. And, like everything Bryan does, it was 'vague' in its character development - he has admitted a 'vague history' and this 'vagueness' also applies to some of the X-Men.

I'm unsure Bryan would have delivered an X3 as strong as what we got. It would have been vague, moody, and lacking in action. But the Phoenix moments might have been better (the firebird etc). Not sure if Cyclops would have had a larger part.

By the way, I hate the Phoenix wirework levitating at the end of X3. It's the worst wirework in the whole movie. If only she'd stretched out her arms and they'd added some Phoenix fire in there....
 
Brett Ratner had artiscit input for X3?!
He directed?!....
He's artistic?!......


This is all shocking to me :D
 
FNSpidey said:
I don't want to start anything, I'm just curious.

Did you guys see what Singer did to SR? Why would you want him near an X-film again? I know he did quite well in the first two, but doesn't the thought of something like SR happening to this franchise scare you? . . .

Not any more than the thought of what happened to X-Men 3.
 
BMM said:
Not any more than the thought of what happened to X-Men 3.

But X-men:TLS wasn't nearly as bad as SR (I actually liked it, but that's irrelevant). It had its problems, granted, but SR was so badly written, I didn't think it was possible anymore. Sure you could get away with some stupidity back in the 70s (Otto changing the coordinates of a completely unprotected missile, not even a password, or turning the earth around), but Luthor's "plan"... 4-year-olds playing with some figures come up with better stuff than this, and far less plotholes.

Anyway, we're not discussing SR here. If you didn't like SR and you didn't like X3, why not choose a different director altogether? Why wish Singer comes back? It doesn't have to be Rattner VS Singer...
 
Opinions don't preach them like facts.

im putting that on my sig since ppl can't seem to get that.
 
well SR and TLS were really really bad... I want the director for cars to do it...

Wait i mean i want a ratner... since he started it...
 
gambitfire said:
Opinions don't preach them like facts.

im putting that on my sig since ppl can't seem to get that.

Uhh... are you addressing me with that comment? I'm not sure, but just in case: you're right, my opinion on SR or X3 doesn't mean anything. I'm just asking if people didn't like SR (I think that's the case with many), why would they want Singer back?
 
gambitfire said:
Brett Ratner had artiscit input for X3?!
He directed?!....
He's artistic?!......

Sounds to me like he followed the pre-written script word for word except for minor parts like "Show graphic bloody Cyclops death scene" and his multiple alternate endings.
 
FNSpidey said:
I don't want to start anything, I'm just curious.

Did you guys see what Singer did to SR? Why would you want him near an X-film again?

Because Singer's work speaks for himself. And X1 and X2 are hardly considered a catastrophy or atrocity. If anything, Singer's X3 would at least have been consistent with the first two films and actually felt like a trilogy, or even better as a series of films that are connected with each other in some substancial and subtle way. Consistency is the key. Even thought the Star wars classic trilogy had 3 different directors, George Lucas was always there to make sure the story and vision was consistent. X3 didn't have that luxury.

I know he did quite well in the first two, but doesn't the thought of something like SR happening to this franchise scare you? Or is it that you actually liked SR?
Why should it scare us? It's not like his style has changed drastically since he made the first 2 X-men movies. We know what the man is capable of. He may not have produced the perfect Superman movie, but judging by his track record he would have produced an X3 movie that was more in line with the first 2, which is what people wanted all along. It's hes pet project, to not let him complete it is a shame.
 

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