Sequels Sinister Six in ASM3

[JOE]

My belief is that by going to 4 movies they can take the same story that they were planning, one that was likely going to be a bit rushed and unwieldy, and split it over 2. This way having to battle 6 villains, with the epic finale against the Goblin, would not be rushed.

So it could be:

The Amazing Spiderman 2: (we'll see if they add more to the title - like "The Spark of Electro")

The Amazing Spiderman 3: The Sinister Six (part 1)

The Amazing Spiderman 4: The Sinister Six (part 2)

How can you assemble all 6 villains by the third film? I'd really want to see the villains established before they're brought together. Common enemies that put them all away behind bars.

 

[amazingly atiba]

but putting them all behind bars individually seems repetitive

 

[Super Jim]

How can you assemble all 6 villains by the third film? I'd really want to see the villains established before they're brought together. Common enemies that put them all away behind bars.

The idea is that some of the villains, whether it is Rhino and/or Electro, along with the Goblin, could be established during the second film. Even Adrien Toomes is suspected to be in TASM2, so the foundation, at a minimu, is there for the Vulture. The Black Cat or Felicia, is also rumored to be in TASM2, and she could start as "somewhat on the baddie's side".

Then in the third film you could take the leader (Goblin) who was already established in TASM2, have him break out one or two from prison (Ravencroft, which is in TASM2), have him hire/make/find the rest (which could be any of the list of possibles, including Mysterio, Doc Ock, Shocker, Jackal, Kraven, Chamelion, etc.

So the third film would be about the forming of the Sinister Six, Peter dealing with Gwen's death, MJ being introduced as a friend (not a love interest yet), and more on the Richard Parker story. In fact, in regard to the Richard Parker story the Goblin could (not saying likely, but possible) manipulate the Lizard to being one of the Six. That wouldn't mean that the Lizard would fight Spiderman, just that he might be forced to work for Osborn/Goblin.

Then in 4 you would conclude everything, with the finale being the ultimate fight. If Black Cat was one of the Six, she would switch sides (similar to what Catwoman did in Rises). And if the Lizard was being forced/manipulated to be part of the Six, he could realize the error of his ways, maybe take out one of the other Six, and slink away.

This really solves all of the concerns that people have had, including:

1. The Sinister Six is too much to do in one movie. (Instead it would be over two/three movies).

2. There will be too many bad guys. (Well, if Black Cat and/or Lizard were part of the Six, then it would really be 4 or 5 baddies. And the Cat and/or Lizard would help take down the hench baddies (Rhino, Kraven, Electro, etc.). For some reason I think I would really enjoy seeing the Black Cat soundly beat the Rhino...

3. It would be too fast to have Peter develop a relationship with MJ. (Well, this wouldn't happen until the 4th movie. During the third we would get to know MJ, but Peter would still be dealing with the loss of Gwen (which would happen at the end of 2). Maybe MJ helps him deal with the loss. Black Cat/Felicia could come into it as well, causing a bit of a competitive love interest, or at least flirtation. This could be used to get MJ to realize her feelings for Peter. In fact, it's possible that Peter and MJ will not be together in any of these 4, with just the hope of what it will be being at the end of 4.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

How can you assemble all 6 villains by the third film? I'd really want to see the villains established before they're brought together. Common enemies that put them all away behind bars.

but putting them all behind bars individually seems repetitive

Right. I would want Sinister 6 in TASM4. And putting them behind bars is repetitive. Idk how they'd write it out. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the final line-up for S6 would lack villains we've seen in movies prior.

 

[GuestStar2004]

it makes sense that the way all these villians come to together is because at least 4 out of 6 are in ravencroft

there is no way Electro or Rhino will terrorise the city then spidey stops him then he goes on to live normal life, No way, plus they will all need a reason to hate spider-man

and if we get the sinister 6 by the 3rd or 4th film i don't think it will matter very much about things getting repetitive

 

[JOE]

The idea is that some of the villains, whether it is Rhino and/or Electro, along with the Goblin, could be established during the second film. Even Adrien Toomes is suspected to be in TASM2, so the foundation, at a minimu, is there for the Vulture. The Black Cat or Felicia, is also rumored to be in TASM2, and she could start as "somewhat on the baddie's side".

Then in the third film you could take the leader (Goblin) who was already established in TASM2, have him break out one or two from prison (Ravencroft, which is in TASM2), have him hire/make/find the rest (which could be any of the list of possibles, including Mysterio, Doc Ock, Shocker, Jackal, Kraven, Chamelion, etc.

So the third film would be about the forming of the Sinister Six, Peter dealing with Gwen's death, MJ being introduced as a friend (not a love interest yet), and more on the Richard Parker story. In fact, in regard to the Richard Parker story the Goblin could (not saying likely, but possible) manipulate the Lizard to being one of the Six. That wouldn't mean that the Lizard would fight Spiderman, just that he might be forced to work for Osborn/Goblin.

Then in 4 you would conclude everything, with the finale being the ultimate fight. If Black Cat was one of the Six, she would switch sides (similar to what Catwoman did in Rises). And if the Lizard was being forced/manipulated to be part of the Six, he could realize the error of his ways, maybe take out one of the other Six, and slink away.

This really solves all of the concerns that people have had, including:

1. The Sinister Six is too much to do in one movie. (Instead it would be over two/three movies).

2. There will be too many bad guys. (Well, if Black Cat and/or Lizard were part of the Six, then it would really be 4 or 5 baddies. And the Cat and/or Lizard would help take down the hench baddies (Rhino, Kraven, Electro, etc.). For some reason I think I would really enjoy seeing the Black Cat soundly beat the Rhino...

3. It would be too fast to have Peter develop a relationship with MJ. (Well, this wouldn't happen until the 4th movie. During the third we would get to know MJ, but Peter would still be dealing with the loss of Gwen (which would happen at the end of 2). Maybe MJ helps him deal with the loss. Black Cat/Felicia could come into it as well, causing a bit of a competitive love interest, or at least flirtation. This could be used to get MJ to realize her feelings for Peter. In fact, it's possible that Peter and MJ will not be together in any of these 4, with just the hope of what it will be being at the end of 4.

The only way I see this working is to have it done in 4 movies.

TASM 2- Electro and Rhino. Both in jail at the end with mention to Mysterio.

TASM 3- Mysterio as main villain. Vulture, Scorpion as side villains, all 3 in jail at end with mention to either Doc Ock or Green Goblin.

TASM 4- Doc Ock or Green Goblin as main villain. Cannot beat Spidey on his own, frees the 5 locked up villains. Spidey in trouble, Lizard manages to escape as well accidentally. Helps Spidey fight the Sinister 6.

 

[Shikamaru]

I seriously doubt we will get the Sinister Six in TASM 3. There is no way they would rush things like that.

 

[amazingly atiba]

what would be a good conclusion if we DIDNT get a sinister six

 

[JOE]

Venom, Doc Ock or the Green Goblin need to be the finale of Webb's Spider-Man. Anything short of one of those 3 villains would be a letdown IMO.

 

[amazingly atiba]

i honestly dont want to see any of them except maybe goblin i want him to explore villians that we have never seen before that would really want to destroy spidey or maybe a cool conclusion wouldnt be an individual spider film but him in avengers 3 or somthing like that

 

[JOE]

I don't consider Venom as "explored", I consider him as "attempted".

 

[amazingly atiba]

but i doubt we will ever seen him and if we do harry will be venom and not brock

 

[JOE]

Says who?

 

[amazingly atiba]

just speculation it seems marc isnt even planning to introduce brock or symbiote

 

[Shikamaru]

but i doubt we will ever seen him and if we do harry will be venom and not brock

Based on what?

 

[JOE]

If it's speculation, don't state it as fact.

 

[amazingly atiba]

how did i state it as fact? and if i did im sorry im just basing it off the post that was made by marc a while back

 

[JOE]

but i doubt we will ever seen him and if we do harry will be venom and not brock

This is how.

 

[JOE]

It's no big deal, I'm just saying.

 

[amazingly atiba]

alright man i just think if they do go with the venom storyline that harry will take the riegns and not brock maybe its an oscorp expierement

 

[JOE]

alright man i just think if they do go with the venom storyline that harry will take the riegns and not brock maybe its an oscorp expierement

That's cool, it'd be interesting to see. I personally think Venom would be a huge hit in the BO as it was with SM3. WOM wasn't good for that movie and it was still the most successful of the franchise. Sky is the limit if they can make a good movie with it.

 

[amazingly atiba]

yep but i was also thinking a nice twist would be if peter had the black suit while he was fighting the sinister six

 

[GuestStar2004]

They did that with the spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, I didn't like that they mixed thoughs plots together

 

[Shikamaru]

Peter shouldn't wear the black suit while battling the Sinister Six. The great thing about the Six is that it creates a great sense of danger. You're supposed to get really scared for Peter because he has to face 6 of his top villains all at once. If he is wearing the symbiote, that sense of danger will be lacking.

It wasn't a problem in the show because that is a TV show and the Sinister Six could always come back (which they did). But it is not a good idea for a movie IMO.

 

[amazingly atiba]

oh i was just thinking that so spidey could be more powerful and really want to kill his enimies especially GG if he survives the cut