_____ said:are we talking world wide or just in the us
AnimeJune said:I noticed that the first movie did crazy-well, because of all the speculation and the 40-year wait. While it pleased general audiences, it alienated some fans and got more mixed reviews.
However, the second movie did ever so slightly less well than the first - because there were those who went to the first movie and didn't like it and didn't come to this one. HOWEVER, this movie was a great deal better than the first, so it ended up converting lots more people to the Spider-man cause. One example would be Roger Ebert - he gave a thumbs down to the first Spidey, but a big thumbs up to the second.
Now that the second proved that the sequel could be vastly, VASTLY better than the original, the crowds for Spider-man 3 will be huge.
Pagrebo said:There is an inherent challenge to the success of this film. The fact that the second movie was generally better reviewed than the first(by critics, fanboys, and the general public), but was unable to match the tickets sales is due in part to timing of release. There is, however, also the matter of the perceived lack of action in the movie for a second time. So many people on these boards have drawn parallels between Spiderman and the Richard Donner Superman movies. While both first films received complaints from fanboys for not enough action, only Superman quieted those complaints in the second.
Now from all that is being said, it sounds like Spiderman 3 is prepared to deliver the action goods. This will be both good and bad for its U.S. box office. Good because the fanboys(everyone here on the hype, for example!) will have reason to see it over and over and over again. That's not to say that there wasn't that going on in SM2, but reports I read indicated that was one area in particular that SM2 dropped off from SM1.
Okay, so the bad news to all the action is that many of the core audience who enjoyed the drama of SM1 & 2, may stay away. Like it or not, not everyone went to the first two to see wall-to-wall action. The question, then, is whether the increase in one group will be enough to offset the decrease in the other. Then, of course, there is the most critical piece of the whole equation... will it be any good?
I'm confident that Raimi will put out another quality film, but there are no guarantees. As evidence, I present Mr. George Lucas, who could do no wrong with the original three Star Wars movies. Fortunately for him, his fan-base was truly "fanatical" for the critically panned next three. For Spidey to break records, his fan base must match or exceed that level of commitment.
So Sam & crew have to do their part, then we have to do ours. I would love to see SM3 top the first two. I think we'll get a little cheat due to gas prices. By this time next year, everything will be quite a bit more expensive to cover businesses costs. Can we do it? My guess is $385 mil. Enough to beat 2, but still behind 1.
AnimeJune said:Agreed.
I noticed that the first movie did crazy-well, because of all the speculation and the 40-year wait. While it pleased general audiences, it alienated some fans and got more mixed reviews.
However, the second movie did ever so slightly less well than the first - because there were those who went to the first movie and didn't like it and didn't come to this one. HOWEVER, this movie was a great deal better than the first, so it ended up converting lots more people to the Spider-man cause. One example would be Roger Ebert - he gave a thumbs down to the first Spidey, but a big thumbs up to the second.
Now that the second proved that the sequel could be vastly, VASTLY better than the original, the crowds for Spider-man 3 will be huge.
cmill216 said:TheVileOne, do you believe that the hype and hoopla over Fahrenheit 9/11 may have taken some of the thunder away from Spidey? I personally believe so.
cmill216 said:TheVileOne, do you believe that the hype and hoopla over Fahrenheit 9/11 may have taken some of the thunder away from Spidey? I personally believe so.
TheVileOne said:No. I think it was more that it didn't have the novelty of being the first Spider-man movie ever. It wasn't the first big movie of the summer like in 2002. It wasn't the movie we had all waited decades to see.
It wasn't just F 9/11. It was the hype and hoopla of Harry Potter 3, The Day After Tomorrow, Shrek 2, and others that Spider-man didn't have to deal with going up against in 2002.
In 2002, it wasn't Spider-man going up against Star Wars, it was Star Wars going up against Spider-man.
theShape said:does anyone know what other big movies are coming out around the time of SM3's release? aka...SM3's competition.
cmill216 said:Actually, no film has been scheduled yet for the week after May 4, 2007. Shrek comes out May 18.
cmill216 said:I'm not saying that those factors aren't true (cause they absolutely are), but you can't deny that Fahrenheit 9/11 took some sort of attention away from Spidey. All Hollywood wanted to talk about the week leading up to Spidey was Fahrenheit. Spidey was obviously there in Hollywood's mind (and the minds of the general movie audience), but Fahrenheit certainly took some eyes from focusing solely on Spidey.
DocCock said:Who really cares? I mean you guys are really even thinking about this? ... and this is considered a "spoiler"?!? WTF