Smallville's Panel at San Diego Comic-Con

[Double Down]

Actually, I'm pretty proud of myself posting that while using my iPhone.

How did you do it? Copy and paste?

 

[Brainiac 8]

That's the one...thanks for coming through Trip.

Actually, I'm pretty proud of myself posting that while using my iPhone.

As well you should be...although I've never used an i-phone, so I have now clue how difficult they are to use.

 

[PrototypeT600]

guys, if they killed Jimmy Olsen off because he wasn't the proper age as in the mythos...then you better believe that they will not leave the series with Clark wearing the black suit as the final version.

true

 

[triplet]

How did you do it? Copy and paste?

Yep, it pasted the link so all I had to do was put the img tags around, wasn't sure how that was going to work but it worked like a charm. Good thing I remembered where that site was...

That's the one...thanks for coming through Trip.

As well you should be...although I've never used an i-phone, so I have now clue how difficult they are to use.

It wasn't exactly hard, but it took a little work. I love my iPhone!

Watching iTunes video on it is better than I thought it would be too. It'll make reviewing tons easier this season. Wonder if I can deduct the cost on my taxes? The IRS lets you deduct 'hobby' expenses if you itemize...

*strokes chin thoughtfully*

 

[Double Down]

Yep, it pasted the link so all I had to do was put the img tags around, wasn't sure how that was going to work but it worked like a charm. Good thing I remembered where that site was...

That's what I was going to do when I posted a pic here from my iPhone. I'm glad to hear it worked.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

wwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Showtime]

good christ this board is like Groundhog's day. It's always the same damn arguments flying back and forth. Like so:

Welcome to the forums, it's like that in every section.

 

[Saint]

I never said anything about people agreeing with me.

You said that people congregate with the like-minded--that is, people who agree with them--and suggested, quite clearly, that it is somehow unreasonable for me to visit a forum composed of fans of the show and talk negatively about it, as it would move against the trend you described.

So, again: if you feel it is somehow absurd to have a discussion with a disagreeing party, this seems to be your problem, not mine. Or perhaps you simply don't care to admit that it was silly of you to complain that I said something negative about Smallville in a Smallville discussion forum?

I have discussions and differing opinions with people on these boards all the time.

Great! I shall now wait for you to realize that since it makes sense for you to make posts that disagree with people, it is also makes sense for me to make posts that disagree with people, and that it was silly of you to question why I would voice my opinion about Smallville in a Smallville discussion forum.

you walk in here, and claim that the show has never been good, and it's constantly disappointing you, but i've not seen you give any constructive opinions or criticism.

And?

I know perfectly what slinging mud is.

Apparently not. I posted my thoughts on the suit, I explained why I don't feel inclined to give it a chance when another poster asked, and then you decided to start grilling me because you feel it's deeply ridiculous that someone would voice a negative opinion about Smallville in the Smallville discussion forum.

And your posts are nothing more than "this show sucks. Why do they bother. Make a good show."

Oh, I see: in order to post a negative opinion, I must include an essay. I will take note of this for future reference.

You blindly hate the show

Again, you do not seem to know what blind hate is. If I had not watched the show for six years as it descended from mediocre-but-watchable to outright bad, and decided to complain about it anyway, that would be blind hate.

because it's not what you want.

Of course. It always confuses me when people say things like "You're just complaining because it's not what you want!" That's why everyone complains about everything they don't like. I'm not exactly sure how you think this is unreasonable.

Don't talk down to me, kiddo.

Sure: I shall extend you such courtesies as soon as you stop complaining that posting an opinion about Smallville in the Smallville discussion forum was absurd.

To be perfectly clear: if in you had simply said that you thought my comments were unfair, there would be no problem (though, naturally, I would not agree). It's because you act as if it was unreasonable for me to post those comments at all that we have a problem.

 

[Angeloz]

Welcome to the forums, it's like that in every section.

Have you considered taking a holiday? Or are you too addicted? Because I do that from time to time. Sometimes because of real life.

Angeloz

 

[Doright]

guys, if they killed Jimmy Olsen off because he wasn't the proper age as in the mythos...then you better believe that they will not leave the series with Clark wearing the black suit as the final version.

I've never had a problem with the Idea that Jimmy might be a similar age to Clark. I just don't see that as that big of a deal.

In fact before Jimmy came on the show I had even thought for a while that it would be a good idea to basically replace Jimmy with Chloe in the mythos.

You know have Chloe fill the Jimmy Olsen roll of best pal in this version of the Character.

When they had her marry Jimmy I thought they just might be doing that by making her Chloe Olsen.

I like the idea the show is willing to do some things differently. Not just the same story told over again.

Maybe Lois will know about this Clark before he's officially "Superman". Lex already knows.

Maybe this Clark will never wear glasses. Maybe this Clark will be known publicly. Maybe this Clark will stay in the shadows.

It makes it exciting.

yet with all that said I do agree that it would make no sense for them not to have a final costume that's red and Blue. Clark has been doing his hero work in Red and Blue for 8 years now. They have shown the cape. They have hinted at the color scheme for years. They have even named him after his color palette on the show.

I think it's beyond silly to actually believe after all that they would choose black as this Clark's final Superman costume.

So basically I am saying to anyone upset about this costume. Chill. It's just part of the progression. It'll get there. Don't worry, quit trying to rush it, and sit back and enjoy the ride.

 

[Serene]

I would--if the show were any good in the first place. But it isn't. I gave Smallville a lot of chances, and it never delivered anything but junk. I have no reason to have any confidence in this latest direction.

This is a discussion forum, and I came to this thread to communicate my thoughts.

Again, I have to observe that this really isn't complicated. I care about the quality of Smallville, and I voice my opinion about it in the forum designated for Smallville discussion. That you think this is somehow unreasonable is quite perplexing.

Interesting. The thing is... I don't think anyone would disagree that you are completely within your rights to express your SV opinions here. However, the actual SV fans who frequent this forum have just as much right to roll their eyes at yet-another "Superman" fan who ONLY steps into this neck of the woods to slam Smallville. Or maybe you've "communicated some thoughts" that were actually positive and I missed them? Because, really? Out of 8 seasons worth of shows... and nothing worthy of posting other than complaints? Do you see why it's hard to fathom why someone would continue watching?

My point is, don't expect a lot of support from the SV fans when your only motivation in participating here is because you have a gripe to make. But certainly, feel free to make it.

Independent thought alert!

Either join the team or be an outcast

Now THAT is totally unfair, and you should know that by now, Jc.

Anyway, I was at Comic-Con (though not at the SV panel,

Duuuuude. Why not?

though I hung out with some folks who've worked on the show in the past) and have to say, since we're talking about Supes' costume) that this is my favorite photo from the con:

Hee! I love it.

In fact before Jimmy came on the show I had even thought for a while that it would be a good idea to basically replace Jimmy with Chloe in the mythos.

You know have Chloe fill the Jimmy Olsen roll of best pal in this version of the Character.

When they had her marry Jimmy I thought they just might be doing that by making her Chloe Olsen.

That's an interesting line of thinking. With all the talk of them aligning things up more with the mythology by series end though, it never would have happened.

I like the idea the show is willing to do some things differently. Not just the same story told over again.

I do too. Everyone seems to have their own list of story element priorities. I'm pretty easy because my one priority is the unique alien/human heart of this heroic character. Flight will be cool too. Eventually.

So basically I am saying to anyone upset about this costume. Chill. It's just part of the progression. It'll get there. Don't worry, quit trying to rush it, and sit back and enjoy the ride.

Hells yes.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya i said it before i wouldnt be surprised if this black outfit turns to red/blues mid/end of the season. So its another step to finalizing his looks, and then at the end probably the final episode of the series will don one that is more classic look. As for the jimmy thing i said my case on that already. As for lex thats an interesting spot they are in and they can do a variety of things to fix that, as for the glasses thing we can really blame al/miles for not doing glasses for the most part. And right now only logical way they can do glasses now is a zantanna magical glasses deal.

 

[Saint]

Interesting. The thing is... I don't think anyone would disagree that you are completely within your rights to express your SV opinions here. However, the actual SV fans who frequent this forum have just as much right to roll their eyes at yet-another "Superman" fan who ONLY steps into this neck of the woods to slam Smallville.

Sure: and I said as much. If you look at the bottom of my previous post, I explained that if he had simply said he thought my comments were unfair, that would have been fine. My issue is that he's acting like it was ludicrous for me to post in the first place.

My point is, don't expect a lot of support from the SV fans

I don't. Why would it matter if I received support or not?

 

[triplet]

*sigh*

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Now THAT is totally unfair, and you should know that by now, Jc.

My sarcasm was intended for the dude that felt "ganged" up on. Just saying, if you go the SV forums pointing out what you don't like, expect a bit of the backlash.

Just like if you went to an SR forum and only posted negative stuff, same deal, expect some defensive reaction. I would have posted that if the situation were in the SR forum.

Bah, please don't think of me from how I posted 5-6 years ago. I turned 25 recently and am married. My wife straightened me out some

 

[Saint]

My sarcasm was intended for the dude that felt "ganged" up on. Just saying, if you go the SV forums pointing out what you don't like, expect a bit of the backlash.

What made you think that I felt "ganged up on?" There's no gang. There hasn't exactly been a backlash, either, and it wouldn't bother me if there was. The problem is only that a certain individual thinks it's unreasonable to post my opinion of Smllaville in the Smallvile forum.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

What made you think that I felt "ganged up on?" There's no gang. There hasn't exactly been a backlash, either, and it wouldn't bother me if there was. The problem is only that a certain individual thinks it's unreasonable to post my opinion of Smllaville in the Smallvile forum.

I don't remember who I even posted that in reference too. Been a few people who came in here complaining about the suit. Noticed it and posted the Crabapple pic. Chill people.

 

[bunk]

Oh, I see: in order to post a negative opinion, I must include an essay. I will take note of this for future reference.

Heh. Usually people ***** about your posts being too long. Well... I suppose it's not too late.

 

[Saint]

Heh. Usually people ***** about your posts being too long. Well... I suppose it's not too late.

Yes, I was thinking about that as I wrote the line you quoted.

 

[lespaul59]

I don't know if anyone has said this yet, if so I'm sorry repeating. Now on to my point, I don't hate the suit.

This is why, if everyone remembers back when Clark ran away he wore all black. It could just be that when he told Chloe that Clark Kent is dead he took on the Kal persona again, and stopped wearing the red and blue and went back to the black.

Or, and this is the one that I believe the most, is that if everyone remembers the Return of Superman story Arc Supes wore a black suit with a silver S shield after he recovered from his fight with Doomsday. It could just be the producers of the show said "We just came off the battle with Doomsday, lets do what they did in the comics and put him in a black suit." If you look close enough the two suits look a lot alike.

Isn't there an interview posted in one of the SV threads where somebody mentions the black and silver SV costume being based on the Return of Superman costume? And it didn't bother me either that Jimmy was the same age as Clark. But if they want that changed after they ok it then we will have a blue and red(and probaly a yellow) costume. And they more than hint at the SM colors. I mean the school colors are red, yellow and black, the barn as red and blue in it, the ttrucks the Kents drive are always blur or red and not to mention Clark wear red and/or blue in almost if not every episode.

 

[Syncos]

What made you think that I felt "ganged up on?" There's no gang. There hasn't exactly been a backlash, either, and it wouldn't bother me if there was. The problem is only that a certain individual thinks it's unreasonable to post my opinion of Smllaville in the Smallvile forum.

It has nothing to do with your opinion of the show. I don't give a damn whether you like it or hate it.

It has everything to do with the fact that you much like a few others we've encountered in the past, don't visit this place regularly, don't actively discuss things. You walk in here to bash the show, then claim "discussion" when you get called out on it.

My comment about like minded individuals has to do with people who are here to discuss Smallville. The people who don't stop by once a year when Smallville actually gets some attention just to flame it.

 

[Brainiac 8]

*sigh*

Have I ever told you that I love you.

 

[Saint]

It has nothing to do with your opinion of the show. I don't give a damn whether you like it or hate it.

It has everything to do with the fact that you much like a few others we've encountered in the past, don't visit this place regularly, don't actively discuss things. You walk in here to bash the show, then claim "discussion" when you get called out on it.

Oh, I understand the problem now: it makes sense for someone who hates the show to post here, but that person must have a certain post count in this section before it is acceptable to post a negative opinion. This is very different from your original post, which suggested rather clearly that it doesn't make sense for someone who hates the show to post here.

Amusingly, both arguments are equally asinine. I suppose I should give up hope that you will simply say "Oh, I guess it was a mistake to complain that someone posted an opinion about Smallville in the Smallville forum." Ah well.

The people who don't stop by once a year when Smallville actually gets some attention just to flame it.

Aside from being a negative opinion, I challenge you to explain precisely how my comment was "flaming."

 

[Saint]

I like the idea the show is willing to do some things differently. Not just the same story told over again.

I think the problem for a lot of people is that, in the early seasons, the show appeared to be building towards a recognizable (if not identical) version of the Superman mythology. That is to say the show was more or less how things went from Smallville to the Superman world we know. With each season, though, this has become less the case: more and more it becomes apparent that the mythology being built up to here is very, very different.

Now, whether or not that bothers a person is up to them, but I think there would be less resistance to the changes if it was apparent from day one that this version of Superman was going to be very different. If we knew from the start that this would be as much a reimagining as it has turned out to be, I think you'd have fewer annoyed fans.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya i agree their in seasons 1-4 it seemed like that, and they probably never thought the show was going to go on how long it has been, so things changed and they had to add more and decided to spin some things and all that. Some has been good, some has been bad, and others ok.