Smoking Cigarettes, The Most Disgusting Habit?

[SouLeSS]

Awww, man, you're like a tail-wagging puppy on its way to be put down

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I think most people immediately associate "smoker" with "he's addicted to smoking." And when I attempt to explain that I am not addicted, people automatically assume I am making excuses.

I went two days last week without a cigarette. I had no desire to smoke at all, either.

What is your reason for smoking? If you have no problem with stopping, why continue to do it?

Is the stress relief now worth the greater health risks in the future? Just because your healthy now doesn't mean you always will be in spite of your smoking habits.

 

[Carcharodon]

The only time I ever smoke cigarettes are when I'm drunk or really, really stoned, and even THEN it's only about 10% of those times. I average one every two to three weeks or so as a social occasion.

The funny thing is that since I never smoke, I get a much greater effect, so I don't WANT to smoke often. I can honestly live without it. But the occasional cigarette doesn't bother me too much.

Oh, yeah, and it's disgusting. That's why I can only do it while drunk or high.

 

[The Senator]

so jmanspace....i thought if you smoked 'bacco your addicted no matter what.

so.....you must be smoking lettuce.

Wow, not only can you not spell to save your life, you also are unable to read what I write.

I said that it is immediately assumed that, because I smoke, I am addicted. I did not say that those who smoke regularly are automatically addicted.

 

[The Senator]

What is your reason for smoking? If you have no problem with stopping, why continue to do it?

Already stated this point: It is an excellent stress reliever.

Is the stress relief now worth the greater health risks in the future? Just because your healthy now doesn't mean you always will be in spite of your smoking habits.

As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather knock off the five or six years where I'll be crapping myself constantly and forced to eat out of tubes... so I'm not all that concerned about the potential loss of life which may result from my actions.

 

[The Senator]

Awww, man, you're like a tail-wagging puppy on its way to be put down

Yeah, I smoke, therefore I am utterly clueless as to the health problems and risks associated with it.

I forgot that in today's day and age, people are taught that smokers don't make any conscientious decisions at all. It is either the work of evil tobacco executives and ad campaigns, or lack of willpower on our behalf.

 

[Logan's Runt]

My addiction was psychological as well. When I decided I was ready to just be done with it, I chain-smoked one after the other until I threw up. My last memory of smoking is not a pleasant one. Self mind-f**k FTW!


jag

Haha. I'm glad that worked for you! I suppose I'll have to do something like that if my 'don't buy them so you won't smoke them' strategy fails.

 

[Neto Magnus]

yea I'm with jman. I can quit when I want but its people that make me want to smoke. I work at a Post Office and this month is gonna be the worst. So the last thing you want from a mail man is for them to stop smoking. The only way I can quit for good is if I live in a cabin in the woods with not another human in sight
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[Logan's Runt]

If there's any 'but' after 'I can quit when I want' then you're contradicting yourself.

I hate people at least 78% more than your average person and I don't drink or smoke or anything else to 'cope.'

 

[knowsbleed]

After a few days of not smoking, I no longer feel the need to. It's the social situations, like hanging out in a bar/club that I feel the temptation to smoke while drinking socially. But other than that, when I'm alone I can find better things to do with my time than stand outside in the freezing cold smoking a cigarette that I can barely hold because my fingers are numb.

 

[Logan's Runt]

After a few days of not smoking, I no longer feel the need to. It's the social situations, like hanging out in a bar/club that I feel the temptation to smoke while drinking socially. But other than that, when I'm alone I can find better things to do with my time than stand outside in the freezing cold smoking a cigarette that I can barely hold because my fingers are numb.

Oh college memories. :heart: I set my hair on fire once trying to light a smoke while huddled in a blanket/blocking the lighter from the wind.

 

[The Guard]

See, I hear "Such and such makes me want to smoke", and what I hear is "such and such makes me want to engage in addictive behavior". Being forced to be around a smoker, especially one who is an ******* about it and lets their smoking define them on any level, is annoying, but hey, so are a lot of things. Sure, smoking is bad for your health. Longtime exposure to anything bad for you isn't good for you.

I basically just think it's a stupid, stupid habit. Not in that it's stupid that people enjoy it, but that they would even engage in it, period. You're bored and you need a rush or to be calmed dow so you...wait for it...draw smoke into your lungs and slowly poison yourself?

Ok.

My mother smoked for years, and I had serious asthma because of it growing up, so I'm a bit biased as to the whole second-hand smoke thing. I think addiction is an awful thing, and I think cigarette addictions are no exception. It's sad more than anything. I've smoked once, when I had to do so for a play, and that was awful (pointless, but looked really, really cool). I believe cigarettes have a cultural place, but I don't particularly value it on any real level. Although I do buy the "cool" and "sophisticated" factor. They do, in our society, make you appear at least somewhat more sophisticated. Don't ask me why, probably old movies.

I've seen some absolutely beautiful women go from a 10 to a 2 because of smoking. Bleah. But is it the most disgusting habit? No. Tobacco chewing/spitting is much worse, as are a number of things.

 

[jaguarr]

Ever watched that TV show "Intervention" with all the meth and heroin addicts on it whose families intervene to try and save? They all say that line: "I can quit anytime I want!". Haha! If you say so.

jag

 

[Logan's Runt]

Ever watched that TV show "Intervention" with all the meth and heroin addicts on it whose families intervene to try and save? They all say that line: "I can quit anytime I want!". Haha! If you say so.

jag

Yeah, haha. That's the universal ******** line.

 

[knowsbleed]

Oh college memories. :heart: I set my hair on fire once trying to light a smoke while huddled in a blanket/blocking the lighter from the wind.

HAHA! I burned part of my eyebrows off when I lit my cigarette with my friend's torch-lighter. I had no idea it was a damned torch so I held it all close to my face with my hands cupped because the wind was blowing aaaand...

... WHOOOSH!!

There goes the inner part of my left eyebrow.

 

[The Senator]

If there's any 'but' after 'I can quit when I want' then you're contradicting yourself.

That's not contradictory. That's explaining that, if I wanted to, I could put aside cigarettes and not smoke at all. However, I want to smoke.

The argument a lot of people make is that many smokers only smoke because they are addicted. While that is true, there are those of us who smoke because it serves as a decent stress reliever or because it is a fun social activity.

So, I could stop smoking entirely if I wanted to... but I don't want to.

I hate people at least 78% more than your average person and I don't drink or smoke or anything else to 'cope.'

Live my life.

 

[thedeadite]

I smoke, and would like to quit, but my head isn't really with it right now so it's pointless to try.
It's a pretty disgusting habit I'll admit, but I'll also say that for many smokers out there the more you harp on them about it, the less likely they will listen to you, or care what you have to say about the matter.

 

[JLBats]

Yeah, I smoke, therefore I am utterly clueless as to the health problems and risks associated with it.

I forgot that in today's day and age, people are taught that smokers don't make any conscientious decisions at all. It is either the work of evil tobacco executives and ad campaigns, or lack of willpower on our behalf.

No, dude, I don't think that at all, but like...

How do I explain this?
Have you ever been arguing with a friend who is doing something incredibly destructive with their life, but they have a perfectly LOGICAL explanation for why it's all cool, and they have a perfectly LOGICAL reason why what they're doing is totally SENSIBLE, but you just know that ultimately they're using this semantical, convoluted non-logic that doesn't actually apply in these destructive circumstances?

And inevitably, despite all their claims, it DOES end badly?

I'm surprised you haven't seen this happen, because in time, I've seen it happen over and over, especially with smoking. People taking up smoking to chill out, fit in, whatever and it's a horrible choice, because they ALWAYS have a good reason why it won't catch and why they won't regret it and why they won't get addicted and, and-

And inevitably a few years later they realize how much the drug was already ********ting them, no matter how logical it all sounded coming out of their mouths, and they shake their head and regret how invincible they felt.

So, no, I do believe you have the power to make a decision. I just believe that you have chosen to allow every logical mechanism in your brain to make these perfectly airtight excuses so you can continue with it and have no worries.

 

[The Senator]

Ever watched that TV show "Intervention" with all the meth and heroin addicts on it whose families intervene to try and save? They all say that line: "I can quit anytime I want!". Haha! If you say so.

jag

The difference is, I have actually gone extended periods of time without cigarettes in the brief year I have been smoking, and have never been physically or psychologically compelled to pick up a cigarette in that time period. Heroin and meth addicts, on that show especially, are the complete opposite.

Everything I have done has been voluntary. Then again, I smoke less than your average smoker does anyway, so perhaps that has something to do with it. Maybe I learned that moderation is the best way to approach an addictive substance.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Already stated this point: It is an excellent stress reliever.

There are healthier stress relievers than smoking. I suggest *********ion.

As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather knock off the five or six years where I'll be crapping myself constantly and forced to eat out of tubes... so I'm not all that concerned about the potential loss of life which may result from my actions.

Who says it's going to take off only 5-6 years of your life?

If that's how you want to live, that's sad and unfortunate. But I won't stop you from slowly killing yourself.

 

[The Senator]

No, dude, I don't think that at all, but like...

How do I explain this?
Have you ever been arguing with a friend who is doing something incredibly destructive with their life, but they have a perfectly LOGICAL explanation for why it's all cool, and they have a perfectly LOGICAL reason why what they're doing is totally SENSIBLE, but you just know that ultimately they're using this semantical, convoluted non-logic that doesn't actually apply in these destructive circumstances?

And inevitably, despite all their claims, it DOES end badly?

I'm surprised you haven't seen this happen, because in time, I've seen it happen over and over, especially with smoking. People taking up smoking to chill out, fit in, whatever and it's a horrible choice, because they ALWAYS have a good reason why it won't catch and why they won't regret it and why they won't get addicted and, and-

And inevitably a few years later they realize how much the drug was already ********ting them, no matter how logical it all sounded coming out of their mouths, and they shake their head and regret how invincible they felt.

So, no, I do believe you have the power to make a decision. I just believe that you have chosen to allow every logical mechanism in your brain to make these perfectly airtight excuses so you can continue with it and have no worries.

Call me in twenty years and we'll see what happens then.

 

[The Senator]

There are healthier stress relievers than smoking. I suggest *********ion.

I have frequent sex, I don't see the point.

Who says it's going to take off only 5-6 years of your life?

If that's how you want to live, that's sad and unfortunate. But I won't stop you from slowly killing yourself.

Thanks for the lecture. I'll be the judge of what's sad and unfortunate in my own life. Cigarettes don't even come close.

 

[Neto Magnus]

If there's any 'but' after 'I can quit when I want' then you're contradicting yourself.

I hate people at least 78% more than your average person and I don't drink or smoke or anything else to 'cope.'

I hate 100% of ppl.

My only other option is kill people but apparently there seems to be some sort of law against that.

How do you 'cope'?

 

[JLBats]

That's not contradictory. That's explaining that, if I wanted to, I could put aside cigarettes and not smoke at all. However, I want to smoke.

Aw, man, I wish Wilhelm were here to explain to you how insane that argument is.

Addiction is not some compulsion to do something that you have no desire to do. The problem, most often, is that while addicted your wants and desires actually DO change.

So YES, those addicts actually DO want to smoke, as much as they hate it and as much they will claim they don't, and want to NOT be addicted to it.

"Oh man, I WANT a cigarette today..."

Not

"Oh man, despite how I don't have any actual internal-special-own-choice desire to smoke, I sure do BIOLOGICALLY NEED a cigarette!"

'cause while they do, they also WANT it in those moments.

****ing DUH that you WANT to smoke, that doesn't mean you're NOT addicted at all. On the contrary

 

[jaguarr]

The difference is, I have actually gone extended periods of time without cigarettes in the brief year I have been smoking, and have never been physically or psychologically compelled to pick up a cigarette in that time period. Heroin and meth addicts, on that show especially, are the complete opposite.

Everything I have done has been voluntary. Then again, I smoke less than your average smoker does anyway, so perhaps that has something to do with it. Maybe I learned that moderation is the best way to approach an addictive substance.

Okay, J. Man Space.

jag