Snyder's NOT a "visionary"

[Spider-Fan]

Although, block people doesn't hold up well.

LOL, no. But the desert scenery is spectacular.

 

[adam-red]

Well I think he's a visionary. I've seen him in interviews. He's got a big hologram on his chest and a cool theme tune that follows him round everywhere he goes and every now and then he has to go back to the studio to recharge his staff weapon t:

 

[Octoberist]

i think it's too early to say if he is a visionary but he is leagues better than Michael Bay. Zach is like Bay, in a mainstream sense, but he means well enough he'll do the best that he can do with what he has.

 

[Episode29]

Well I think he's a visionary. I've seen him in interviews. He's got a big hologram on his chest and a cool theme tune that follows him round everywhere he goes and every now and then he has to go back to the studio to recharge his staff weapon t:

Best response ever. Your reference was not lost on me, sir.

All this whining and moaning about Snyder being/not being a visionary is redundant. We haven't seen Watchmen, and he's too early into his career to warrant the title. I would say though, that he is one of the more promising new talents out there. He has the potential to become a visionary.

 

[Figs]

I know. But in saying that it was just "28 Days Later set in a mall," I was trying to preempt anyone saying that 28 Days Later wasn't set in a mall. And the zombies themselves aren't the whole story with the good zombie movies... it's the humans that have to deal with the zombies.

You know how great the original Dawn is... and Romero only used four characters for a majority of the movie to tell a great story. The remake (while entertaining) was just a combination of a mall and the runners from 28 Days Later with more characters (some even trucked in so they can up the cast numbers) just to die later. I also agree with Romero's thoughts on the remake in that it's a "video game."

I guess your right on that. At first I was anti Dawn of the Dead remake but eventually a friend got me to watch it on DVD. I have to admit it was a fun film but still doesn't compare to the original. LOL, never knew that Romero said it was like a video game. t:

But I'm not saying that the content of both movies is the same. The way they were made is the same and yet some people bow down to Snyder for making comic panels come to life on screen like Sin City never existed. And that's what some people are giving Snyder credit for.... when Rodriguez had done it before.

Good point. I'm not a Snyder fanboy or anything, I just think some people are quick to call him a hack or make it sound like he's a horrible director to soon. I really would like to see him make a film that isn't based off a comic or something to really get an idea of what he can or can't do.

 

[Octoberist]

he's a talented guy. I would rather have him direct a movie like Transformers or Superman.

 

[Gilpesh]

I guess your right on that. At first I was anti Dawn of the Dead remake but eventually a friend got me to watch it on DVD. I have to admit it was a fun film but still doesn't compare to the original. LOL, never knew that Romero said it was like a video game. t:

I forget what else he said... but he didn't like it above that it was just a video game to him.

Oooo found the link: http://www.timeout.com/film/news/631/

GR It was better than I expected. I thought it was a good action film. The first 15, 20 minutes were terrific, but it sort of lost its reason for being. It was more of a video game. I'm not terrified of things running at me; it's like Space Invaders. There was nothing going on underneath.

He even talked about how he dressed the zombies in the original. Which brought up the remake cause he made a quip about how everyone was in 'jeans and nikes'.

Good point. I'm not a Snyder fanboy or anything, I just think some people are quick to call him a hack or make it sound like he's a horrible director to soon. I really would like to see him make a film that isn't based off a comic or something to really get an idea of what he can or can't do.

I'm not quick to call him a hack. I'm just calling him what he is... not as visionary as the marketing guys at WB are trying to make him look. But I do/have enjoyed Dawn remake and 300... but I'm not going to fib about the quality of those films.

Also, I'm not above liking and enjoying hacks and the movies they make. Michael Bay for one... I just had to pick up the Rock and Armageddon on Criterion DVD.

 

[Episode29]

he's a talented guy. I would rather have him direct a movie like Transformers or Superman.

Good lord, what has the dude done to deserve being saddled with the Transformers franchise?

 

[Majik1387]

Ok, just to be sure that, at least, the majority of everyone is on the same page and is, in no way, buying into the relentless marketing bulls*** surrounding an otherwise awesome looking picture. Orson Welles was a visionary, George Lucas wasn't a visionary, James Cameron is a visionary. Zack Snyder, however, is NOT!!!!!! He is a capable director, I'll give him that, but considering that this guy's entire film resume consists of one remake of an unnecessary zombie picture, that was originated by an actual visionary, George Romero, and two adaptations of graphic novels, there's nothing there to even hint at "visionary" material. Now, everything I've seen from Watchmen has been top shelf, no doubt, but until Snyder decides to tackle a story which is NOT a straight remake or adaptation of something else, then we'll talk about being impressed with his stuff.

-so sayeth the mastermind-

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You guys are so easy.

Hehe sometimes it's fun to sit back and read some reactions though.

You know what? *F* this thread.
I am sick and tired of people just bashing for the same of being "unique and cool".
I am not the biggest Zack Snyder fan, but I liked his DOTD and loved 300, and Watchmen looks like it's going to be really good.
It's so unfair to compare him to Spielberg, Cameron and all those other choices. He's so young, and he's doing very well. What's it to you if people call him a visionary? Who are you to say otherwise?
Is anyone else doing exactly what he's doing? Did anyone else fight hard to make Watchmen, for example? Excuse me, I didn't see Spielberg or Cameron running to get the rights to make this movie.
You don't like people calling him a visionary? Grab a ****ing camera and start to do something then.
I swear, there's just no winning with some of you people. You have someone pouring his heart out to make a good movie about a good franchise, and in 3 seconds, you get all uppity in your "I love Spielberg, therefore I know all about good filmmaking" club, and bash every single detail, instead of being grateful that someone is taking the time and care to work on a project like this/
I can't believe the nerve of people bashing people like Snyder and Nolan (yeah, I've seen that as well), when we have so many useless "directors" filming crap.
The Snyders and Nolans and whomever else you care to mention are going to be the Spielbergs and Camerons of tomorrow, and they sure are working hard at it (like Spielberg and Cameron did in the past).
It's just that some of you people think that ignoring this fact somehow makes you look like a film connoisseur.
Seriously, I'd like some of you to put your money where your mouth is and start proving how Snyder and the rest of the good current directors are not visionary.
This is just contradicting to appear different.
Ugh, stuff like this makes me hate this place more every day.

I entirely agree.

No, no, I know what you mean about "worse".
Technically, I am a huge Batman fan, and of course I love BB and TDK, and of course Memento blew me away, but The Prestige has David Bowie, so that shoots it right to the top for me
I'd like to see Insomnia, though.

Insomnia is my fave Nolan film.

Good point. I'm not a Snyder fanboy or anything, I just think some people are quick to call him a hack or make it sound like he's a horrible director to soon. I really would like to see him make a film that isn't based off a comic or something to really get an idea of what he can or can't do.

I pretty much feel the same way. I need to see more from him, but I don't see anything that makes him a hack.

he's a talented guy. I would rather have him direct a movie like Transformers or Superman.

I could maybe see him for Superman, I'll wait for Watchmen to have a real stance on that though.

Good lord, what has the dude done to deserve being saddled with the Transformers franchise?

 

[redhawk23]

while i agree that the whole visionary thing is rediculous, its talking about his directing abilitities, and 300 was extremely stylized and awesome from a directing standpoint, but i mean not much going on as far as the story. With watchmen i think there is just as much stylization, i mean drawing everything in hues of purples and greens is one thing, using that color pallet on film is pretty well preposterous. Also hes filming the supposedly un filmable, i'll wait to pass judgement. I always thought that'd hed serve a movie far better as a director of photography or something, because his visuals and attention to set details is alway superb but i don't always necessarily like his directing. I do think he is a talented film maker though

 

[Doctor Jones]

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Hehe sometimes it's fun to sit back and read some reactions though.

I entirely agree.

Insomnia is my fave Nolan film.

I pretty much feel the same way. I need to see more from him, but I don't see anything that makes him a hack.

I could maybe see him for Superman, I'll wait for Watchmen to have a real stance on that though.

Oh, for God's sake.

 

[Nivek]

If WB is smart, they should sign him up for the Superman reboot when Watchmen takes off.

 

[Doctor Jones]

It would be intersting to see how Snyder would do Superman. I wouldn't mind it at all. But I want him to do TDKR!

 

[DACrowe]

Ok, just to be sure that, at least, the majority of everyone is on the same page and is, in no way, buying into the relentless marketing bulls*** surrounding an otherwise awesome looking picture. Orson Welles was a visionary, George Lucas is a visionary, James Cameron is a visionary. Zack Snyder, however, is NOT!!!!!! He is a capable director, I'll give him that, but considering that this guy's entire film resume consists of one remake of an unnecessary zombie picture, that was originated by an actual visionary, George Romero, and two adaptations of graphic novels, there's nothing there to even hint at "visionary" material. Now, everything I've seen from Watchmen has been top shelf, no doubt, but until Snyder decides to tackle a story which is NOT a straight remake or adaptation of something else, then we'll talk about being impressed with his stuff.

-so sayeth the mastermind-

You really are going to put Lucas and Cameron in the same camp as Wells? In that case, adding Snyder next to Cameron doesn't seem like that big a deal to me. And considering Snyder has a very distinct style (whether you like it or not) does lead him to being a possible auteur. Not in the same breath of say Ford, Hitchcock, Truffaut, Coppola, Scorsese, etc. but he has the potential. I'd say he is about where Cameron was when he made Aliens and if you are going to put Cameron on the great auteur list, then Snyder is not far behind.

 

[thejon93]

It would be intersting to see how Snyder would do Superman. I wouldn't mind it at all. But I want him to do TDKR!

As in: "The Dark Knight Returns"?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Correct.

 

[Stringer]

I dont think Snyder is a visionary either, but really, how many are there anyway?

Ridley Scott
Spielberg
Cameron
Lucas(not anymore)
Fincher(maybe)

Is there anyone else?

 

[Ender Durden]

Gilliam

Burton (i guess)

Alfonso Cuaron

Guillermo Del Toro

while i agree that the whole visionary thing is rediculous, its talking about his directing abilitities, and 300 was extremely stylized and awesome from a directing standpoint, but i mean not much going on as far as the story. With watchmen i think there is just as much stylization, i mean drawing everything in hues of purples and greens is one thing, using that color pallet on film is pretty well preposterous. Also hes filming the supposedly un filmable, i'll wait to pass judgement. I always thought that'd hed serve a movie far better as a director of photography or something, because his visuals and attention to set details is alway superb but i don't always necessarily like his directing. I do think he is a talented film maker though

why is that preposterous? Directors do it all the time, and from the looks of the previews, it certainly doesn't seem like what you're describing at all anyway.

 

[thejon93]

Correct.

I wouldn't mind to see that film... but I'd much rather see Nolan conclude the franchise, and possibly have Snyder take a shot at it later-on, or even with 'Daredevil' I wouldn't mind having him take part in.

 

[Fenrir]

What about Nolan? Would you say he's "visionary"?

"Ask in any top film school. Of all the directors out there, one is hailed as being cutting edge, innovative. His methodology´s being taught everywhere. Considered one of the great directors of the 21st century. It’s Chris Nolan", Michael Uslan

I'd call that a visionary.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

What about Nolan? Would you say he's "visionary"?

You should know better to start these things.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

IMHO he hasn't even directed a good movie yet, DOTD was fun but 300 was terrible, I'm hoping that Watchmen changes all of that.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

what exactly is so visionary about Nolan? He is lame.

 

[Majik1387]

what exactly is so visionary about Nolan? He is lame.

Not lame, but not visionary either.

 

[xisaacx]

wait the watchmen movie is going to be faithful to the graphic novel? soooo changing the ending is being faithful? ok I didn't realize that one