So, has X-Men earned the right to join "The cool trilogy club"?

[Savage]

You know, in the movie, they actually gave out solid, concrete evidence that Xavier isn't dead.

On the other hand, exactly WHAT evidence do you have to say Cyclops isn't dead, other than "we didn't see the body"?

What evidence do you have? They kissed. Scott looked terrified. Maybe she had salt water breath so he booked it.

 

[Kurosawa]

No, it's easily one of the crappiest trilogies ever made. Not to mention that it shouldn't have even been a trilogy.

 

[livrule]

No, it's easily one of the crappiest trilogies ever made. Not to mention that it shouldn't have even been a trilogy.

Are you talking about the Star Wars prequels ??

Seriously ... when you look at a trilogy its best to pull all three movies together into one six hour movie and judge what is there.

For example ... the Matrix : an awesome start that falls flat and slightly picks up at the end.

The X-men : Started well, got even better and had a loud, silly ending.


EVERY trilogy has a weak part ... we just have to accept them and remember that they are part of a bigger picture ... don't let them affect what comes before or after.

 

[DACrowe]

No.

This is the X-Men trilogy in a nutshell.

X-Men is like Star Wars.

X2 is The Empire Strikes BAck.

X3 is like we were expecting ROTJ (or even ROTK!) and got....Episode I with the Ewoks and Hayden Christensan thrown in.

Hardly a "cool" trilogy then.

 

[Chaos Bringer]

yes.

I thought X3 did what 1 & 2 only hinted at...
Finally got to see some Wolverine action.
Mystique Rocked it.
Iceman Vs. Pyro was really, really neat.
Main Characters getting blitzed and bam! it's onto the next scene! cool.
No soap opera drag dumb scenes that insult me as it projects onto the screen.

If X1 &2 had drama and character development than cool-X3 had the flash, action and mutant mania I craved. I liked it a lot.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

yes.

I thought X3 did what 1 & 2 only hinted at...
Finally got to see some Wolverine action.
Mystique Rocked it.
Iceman Vs. Pyro was really, really neat.
Main Characters getting blitzed and bam! it's onto the next scene! cool.
No soap opera drag dumb scenes that insult me as it projects onto the screen.

If X1 &2 had drama and character development than cool-X3 had the flash, action and mutant mania I craved. I liked it a lot.

So instead of wanting a good story, you rather see cool action scenes with no emotion and no plot?

Typical ADD fan.

 

[Darthphere]

So instead of wanting a good story, you rather see cool action scenes with no emotion and no plot?

Typical ADD fan.

Typical elitist response.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Typical elitist response.

Just saying there's more to a movie than action/eye candy. I don't mind action, but I also want a great story that says something too. Yeah, all those action scenes look cool, but do they say something?

No. There's nothing wrong with people liking action movies, but you also need to understand that people who consider emotional drama to be "soap opera", are nothing more than ADD people who can't appreciate storytelling.

So if that makes me an elitist then so be it, I'm proud to be one.

 

[Duende Verde]

for those of you who don't know what happened to cyclops in the movie, here's the "more accurate, official X-Men 3 wallpaper"

 

[livrule]

Just saying there's more to a movie than action/eye candy. I don't mind action, but I also want a great story that says something too. Yeah, all those action scenes look cool, but do they say something?

No. There's nothing wrong with people liking action movies, but you also need to understand that people who consider emotional drama to be "soap opera", are nothing more than ADD people who can't appreciate storytelling.

So if that makes me an elitist then so be it, I'm proud to be one.

As I said above you must view X3 as the final act of a 5 hour story .... which it is.

The characters and drama were built up in the first two ... You can't keep throwing words and plot at viewers ... many just wanted a fun, full-on conclusion to a quality trilogy ... and thats what we got.

As for Return of the Jedi ..... take away the Luke/Vader/Palpatine moments and whats left?

Not much.

 

[thealiasman2000]

Just for the record:

in order for a movie to join "the cool trilogy club", ALL THREE MOVIES must be loved and cherished by the fans.

Everybofy liked all three Lord of the Rings movies. Same with the original Star Wars trilogy, the Indiana Jones trilogy, the Scream trilogy...


On the other hand, all the "X-Men" fans HATE "The Last Stand", so I say no.

 

[livrule]

Just for the record:

in order for a movie to join "the cool trilogy club", ALL THREE MOVIES must be loved and cherished by the fans.

Everybofy liked all three Lord of the Rings movies. Same with the original Star Wars trilogy, the Indiana Jones trilogy, the Scream trilogy...


On the other hand, all the "X-Men" fans HATE "The Last Stand", so I say no.

??? ... Say what ???

Most Scream fans dislike number 3
Temple of Doom was average at best ..... and don't get me started on Return of the Jedi.

 

[Kroc1138]

No. IMHO Most good/great Movie Triologies have to have Movies that are at least on par with each other in quality. While X1 and X2 were good films X3 was a mess.

 

[Darthphere]

No. IMHO Most good/great Movie Triologies have to have Movies that are at least on par with each other in quality. While X1 and X2 were good films X3 was a mess.

Well then that pretty much takes Star Wars OT out the equation.

 

[livrule]

No. IMHO Most good/great Movie Triologies have to have Movies that are at least on par with each other in quality. While X1 and X2 were good films X3 was a mess.

Sorry ... Do not agree.

Godfather 3 ... Return of the Jedi .... I could go on.

Nearly EVERY trilogy has a chapter that is weaker than the others.
Just because Jedi is not as good as Hope and Empire does that make them any less impressive ?? NO.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Just for the record:

in order for a movie to join "the cool trilogy club", ALL THREE MOVIES must be loved and cherished by the fans.

Everybofy liked all three Lord of the Rings movies. Same with the original Star Wars trilogy, the Indiana Jones trilogy, the Scream trilogy...


On the other hand, all the "X-Men" fans HATE "The Last Stand", so I say no.

Wow, that's one big pile of wrong.

 

[Kroc1138]

Well then that pretty much takes Star Wars OT out the equation.

I disagree. The PT may have had it flaws. (minor one) but they were all solid films.

 

[Kroc1138]

Sorry ... Do not agree.

I think you misundertood me and I didn't make my point clear enough. While I know that movie have trilogies of variable quality, only the good ones have movies that still complement and supplement one another. Second the movies stand alone are good movies.

Godfather 3 ... Return of the Jedi .... I could go on.

Bad examples. In the case of ROTJ, I think that all three Star Wars movies are great for different reason so I really don't judge them side by side and say which one is better. As for Godfather 3, for all of it's flaws it's still is a good movie, IMO.

TO me a Good exaple would have been The Terminator series. T1 and T2 are great movie, while T3 is a flaming turd.

Nearly EVERY trilogy has a chapter that is weaker than the others.
Just because Jedi is not as good as Hope and Empire does that make them any less impressive ?? NO.

Sure, but still when you look at the classic trilogies, (regardless of our difference of Opinions) there has never been a decrease in quality on the level of an X3 or a T3.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Sure, but still when you look at the classic trilogies, (regardless of our difference of Opinions) there has never been a decrease in quality on the level of an X3 or a T3.

Sure there has, since X3 is the first decent one of the trilogy.

It'd be tough for there to be a decrease in quality for X3, since Singer's hackneyed films had little to none(leaning toward the latter)to boot.

 

[snowangel061989]

Yes, definently

 

[livrule]

I think you misundertood me and I didn't make my point clear enough. While I know that movie have trilogies of variable quality, only the good ones have movies that still complement and supplement one another. Second the movies stand alone are good movies.

Bad examples. In the case of ROTJ, I think that all three Star Wars movies are great for different reason so I really don't judge them side by side and say which one is better. As for Godfather 3, for all of it's flaws it's still is a good movie, IMO.

TO me a Good exaple would have been The Terminator series. T1 and T2 are great movie, while T3 is a flaming turd.

Sure, but still when you look at the classic trilogies, (regardless of our difference of Opinions) there has never been a decrease in quality on the level of an X3 or a T3.

Fair points well made but I will argue one thing.

Decrease in quality ....... Godfather 2 is the stuff of legend! ... Godfather 3 is a pale shadow.

Empire strikes back is one of the best movies ever made, almost flawless ... Return of the Jedi is average at best with a few decent moments.

X3 for all its faults was still an entertaining, full-on blast and closed the trilogy well ... it is not as good as X2 but the drop in quality is not massive, unlike the examples above.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

X3 is by far the worst of the trilogy: pointless deaths and the story was garbage(disoraganized)

 

[livrule]

X3 is by far the worst of the trilogy: pointless deaths and the story was garbage(disoraganized)

I agree the Death of Xavier was a strange choice but unlike the fanboys I have no problem with Scotts death.
In the comics he is a great character but his movie version was a bit stale ... I never saw any genuine passion between him and Jean and with Marsden busy with Superman I suppose It was an obvious idea.

The story is sound but is a bit rushed ...

 

[thealiasman2000]

I don't know if you watched the movie until all the credits are over, but Xavier isn't really dead.

Cyclops is, on the other hand.

 

[Chaos Bringer]

So instead of wanting a good story, you rather see cool action scenes with no emotion and no plot?

Typical ADD fan.

No my special olympic one. If you read my post without inferencing you may be surprised by what you see.

1&2 set up 3 to be what it was. I already spent over 3 hrs. watching and learning about these characters. I didn't need further tales from the lame. I wanted flash. 1 & 2 had little flash. These movies barely register as good but BECAUSE I'm such a huge X Fan I compensated.

I've been reading these books for over 20 years. Been watching films for more than that.

Too bad you're jaded and forgot how to have fun at the multiplex.

X3 was great, ADD and all.

now have a slice of kraft cheese.