So, has X-Men earned the right to join "The cool trilogy club"?

[Assassin]

You're wrong. I enjoyed the movie, but I also recognize the flaws in character development, dialogue, and direction.

It's not a horrible movie in my opinion, it just could've been so much better than it was.

I view X3 as a good movie, but it's wasted potential

me 2

 

[The Kid]

same here

there'll be an extended edition coming out, so says Avi arad, in case anyone didn't know.

 

[The Dark Defender]

People that love X-Men 3 overlook important stuff.

Y'know, stuff like story, character development, dialogue, direction.

Things of that nature.

Same way I feel about people that love Singer's hackneyed, shallow as can be excuses for X-Men films with some of the most bland direction to ever disgrace the screen.

 

[Assassin]

side note. M night shamalan wrote Stuart Little.

 

[Darthphere]

side note. M night shamalan wrote Stuart Little.

House is in Stuart Little.

 

[Orko Is King]

"I'll find Tom Rothman and crush him into a ball. And then I'll pay Halle Berry a visit."

Hell yah!

 

[Assassin]

House is in Stuart Little.

yep, the father

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Same way I feel about people that love Singer's hackneyed, shallow as can be excuses for X-Men films with some of the most bland direction to ever disgrace the screen.

Yeah, what was Singer doing by making you give a damn about the characters.

God forbid anyone nearly choke up or cry when Cyclops watches Jean die, and proceeds to break down in Logans arms.



Personally your hate for Singers X-Men leaves you with zero credibility. What did Ratner do that was so much better than Singer? Ratner didn't allow anyone to connect with the emotional scenes, as he admits to being bored and wants it to go faster.

Least Singer took his time and allowed certain aspects to hit impact you.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah, what was Singer doing by making you give a damn about the characters.

God forbid anyone nearly choke up or cry when Cyclops watches Jean die, and proceeds to break down in Logans arms.



Personally your hate for Singers X-Men leaves you with zero credibility. What did Ratner do that was so much better than Singer? Ratner didn't allow anyone to connect with the emotional scenes, as he admits to being bored and wants it to go faster.

Least Singer took his time and allowed certain aspects to hit impact you.

Actually I didnt feel anything when Jean died in X2 because I really didnt give a damn about Cyclops in the movie or Jean Grey for that matter.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

How about it joins the "first two movies were good trilogy club"?

 

[The Kid]

Hell hath no fury like a franchise scorned.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Actually I didnt feel anything when Jean died in X2 because I really didnt give a damn about Cyclops in the movie or Jean Grey for that matter.

That's fine, no one is forcing you to like it. Quite a few people felt emotional during that scene and obviously I wasn't the only one.

But different strokes for different folks.

 

[X-Ray]

Nope. Only 1 really good movie in the bunch.

 

[livrule]

Yes.

They never drop below good and are often great.

Stewart and Sir Ian give a touch of quality that many fantasy epics lack.

Only rabid fanboys have problems with the X-men movies ... everybody else thinks they are fantastic.

 

[Savage]

Eh. Every trilogy has a Return of the Jedi. I'll say yes.

 

[Savage]

Yes.

They never drop below good and are often great.

Stewart and Sir Ian give a touch of quality that many fantasy epics lack.

Only rabid fanboys have problems with the X-men movies ... everybody else thinks they are fantastic.

You won't believe how impossible it was for me to even find somewhere where it WASN'T sold out. I had to buy a ticket to a later show and walk into an earlier one. There were people who had to sit on the steps. It was f**king pandemonium!

 

[Dr. Fate]

There are only 2 reasons for X-Men 3 to be in the cool trilogy club if there is such a thing.

1) Seeing a human Mystique completely naked.
2) Watching Ellen Page/Kitty Pryde running around in leather.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Yeah, what was Singer doing by making you give a damn about the characters.

God forbid anyone nearly choke up or cry when Cyclops watches Jean die, and proceeds to break down in Logans arms.

In order for that to make me choke up or cry, they would have needed to give Cyclops and Jean distinct characteristics that made them worth caring about, rather than just generic heroes #3 and 4, not to mention how pathetic the film adaption of Wolverine is, who they spend the bulk of the films, but still never came close to getting him right. Scenes are only emotional for me when I care about the characters involved.



Personally your hate for Singers X-Men leaves you with zero credibility. What did Ratner do that was so much better than Singer? Ratner didn't allow anyone to connect with the emotional scenes, as he admits to being bored and wants it to go faster.

I couldn't care less about my credibility, since I don't put any in others either, let alone someone that lauds Singer's X-Men movies. I have many, many mile long posts explaining in graphic detail why I detest Singer's work on this franchise so much and why I find Rattner's to be a vast improvement(though still flawed). Just search through my posts if you want to know why I feel Rattner did so much better than Singer.

Least Singer took his time and allowed certain aspects to hit impact you.

Maybe you, but all he hit me with was a bunch of generic, flat as can be characters that I couldn't have cared less about, not to mention films that were visually mediocre(at best)even when he was given over $100 mill and much more time to work with on the sequel.
If you enjoy his work, that's fine, but personally I think he's an utterly talentless hack, basically the Uwe Boll of big budget blockbusters.

 

[Dr. Fate]

Killing Cyclops and Xavier might keep X3 out of the cool trilogy club.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Spoiler

Technically, they didn't kill Xavior, and we never actually seen Scott's dead body.

 

[thealiasman2000]

You know, in the movie, they actually gave out solid, concrete evidence that Xavier isn't dead.

On the other hand, exactly WHAT evidence do you have to say Cyclops isn't dead, other than "we didn't see the body"?

 

[KenK]

You know, in the movie, they actually gave out solid, concrete evidence that Xavier isn't dead.

On the other hand, exactly WHAT evidence do you have to say Cyclops isn't dead, other than "we didn't see the body"?

Have you no knowledge of the Marvel Universe? Or soap operas?!? No body ALWAYS equals NOT DEAD! Hell, cremated body can even equal NOT DEAD. Colossus came back from the dead in the comics after Kitty scattered his cremated remains. Bringing back Cyclops would be a simple matter of introducing Sinister.

 

[thealiasman2000]

I'm sorry, I come from the Dana Scully school of thought.

If I don't SEE him resurrected, I asume he's dead.

And how the hell can someone survive a full blast from Phoenix WITHOUT a healing factor?

Cyclops is NOWHERE near as powerful as Xavier, mind you!

 

[Milkman95]

NO, it doesn't.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

full blast?

we never see cyclop's getting blasted

we don't see anything....

dude is alive, trust me...jean never said she killed him, she only believed what wolverine told her no big deal.