So How would you change the Star wars Prequel Trilogy?

Yeah, that's amazing, the prequels follow the structure of a tragedy. Any movie that follows the structure of a tragedy must always be hailed as perfection. Movies that follow tragedy structure can have no flaws! No dissenters! Kill the non-believers!
lol, I know.
How many horrendous movies have perfectly followed the Campbellian/Star Wars structure? :o
Logic just goes out the window.

If anything the P's weren't tragic enough, at all.
There was the whole wasted movie where Anakin did nothing (they even cut out the one interesting thing he did, the hint of darkness when he got into a fight), and Kenobi just met him real quick.

They obviously should've used all three movies to build up a strong affection between Anakin and Obi Wan, and then have it crumble without seeming forced, just in time for the end, over flimsy reasons.

One movie, they're strangers.
The next, they practically hate eachother.
Then, they're like schizophrenics, suddenly, best buds, then *pow*, "I'm gonna kill you."

terrible
 
Jesus christ you fanboys are ******s. Im glad lucas is to busy counting all of his money from the thousands of special edition SW dvds you guys keep buying to actually read this.

I didn't even buy Ep. 2. I would never, ever, buy more than one copy of any movie for any kind of feature. You could tell me Lucas was blowing Han Solo for all I care, I still wouldn't buy it if I already had it. It doesn't make you any less of a fan. So shut your mouth.

Your episode two is even worse. If the jedi are aloud to love(as they should be) then what real reason does anakin have to turn. For more POWAH!!!!!LOL.

Actually, that would've been an entirely better reason. For greed, power, etc. Not because his wife was dying. Boo hoo she wasn't even dying.

Some **** bounty hunter should not be able to wound a jedi master like mace windu. How does maul manage to walk through the senate building and straight to a high ranking official. It would be like sadam walking into the white house. Do you think anakin is as stupid as you guys. Why would he turn on the man who rescues him from tatoine because someone tells him that OMG OBI WAN IS A TRATA LOL111.
That already happened in Ep. 3 so it doesn't matter.

I was gonna shred your Ep III as well but it seems like you worked very hard on this so I wont. And one more thing why do you guys like boba fett so much. He's a nobody. He's no different than any of the other millions of stormtroopers in the galaxy. He was killed by a blind man.

I'd seriously like to hear your favorite movies/trilogy. Not to make fun, just to observe what crap you probably watch.
 
^Maybe so. But you cant deny the fact that these ideas are a million times worse than anything lucas could come up with.

Keeping Maul throughout the entire prequel trilogy was the best idea since Han Solo.
 
Hmmm... I can. A paragraph synposis of the prequel trilogy as is doesn't really read any better than anything I've seen here. There are some why's that naturally won't be answered in a simple summary. That doesn't mean the idea is weak, only unfinished. If you had a movie by Speedball and you could point out something that wasn't explained then, Triadkd, your complaints, which are really just questions, would have merit.

Anyways, obviously the biggies: different director, less CGI, less cutesey ness. More of the good stuff (and there WAS some, wasn't there?) and LESS of the weak stuff. I'd actuall suggest making the movies longer and LOTR-epic. My main thought is that all the pieces were there, and that a slight bit of tweaking could have made the prequels truly awesome.

First movie: Phantom Menace

Well, the FIRST and MOST important thing in TPM is: older Anakin. Make him 11, 12, or 13, the age of accountability. This is a child who has a capablity of showing a dark side, or showing hints of being already tainted, making the complaints about him being 'too old' and 'having much fear in him' have HUGE merit. A cute 8 year old who is scared of losing his mother is but two years older than a youngling, and hardly 'fear ridden' when compared with his peers. It also gives his facination with Padme a bit more oomph. And best of all, it gives him flying a ship and blowing up the enemy, fueled by his dark destructive tendencies and assisted by R2-D2 a great deal of credibility. Less of the Bad.

Darth Maul. Add in a couple more fight scenes for him, giving him a chance to really show off the Sith's ruthlessness by slaughtering a city or something (and thus making resonance with Anakin's slaughter later). I'd also add a character building moment ( a conversation with Qui-Gonn during the tatooine duel) where his philosphy of death can be shown off, thus foreshadowing powerful both Qui-Gon's and his own deaths. I think having him defeated by Obi-wan on raw power was unwise, and I think a more 'outsmarted' approach (followed by a killing swipe) would be more interesting. I also think hinting at the existance of Teras Kasi, where an unarmed Maul battles against Obi wan with Saber would have been interesting. But, if it were me, I actually would have had a Maul with robotic legs show up in number 3 to cause havoc. MORE OF THE GOOD.

Jar Jar binks. What can be done to fix this? The comic relief is, unfortunately necessary, especially in a family film like this. I say let Ahmed Best have more say in his lines. Let him be more unintentionally funny than goofy slapstic. Oh, yeah... one, MAYBE two slapstick moments, not endless tounge electrocuting and "yousas." And let Obi-Wan's dislike of him be clear, giving the audience a vent for this, essentially, cartoon character stuck into a live action movie. LESS OF THE BAD.

Trade Federation. Good on the basis, one thing I ask: Let their home base not bear ANY resemblance to the death star... no big circles in the middle... let's at least PRETEND to be origional. I think the biggest and best arguement for the giving up on battle droids in favor of clone troopers would be to have the Jedi turn the battle droids on the trade federation by taking the main control panel. Thus, the droids could have been much better, MORE OF THE GOOD.

Podracing/Tatooine/Midiclorians: I say leave it in, and giving Anakin the handicap of being 'too big' this year after his growth spurt. And while I think the idea of him being immaculately concieved by the Force is utterly rediculous, I think I would have been happy with Shmi being found by Watto pregnant with no memory of where she came from. Everyone can believe what they want. LESS OF THE BAD.

Yep I think that takes care of that. I could speak on the other two movies, but honestly, that setup takes care of just about everything. (oh well, I'm long anyway)

Clone Wars

Foreshadow the clones in TPM and get to them quicker. Yoda should not be flipping like a green ball of fur. Let him strike with power and direct speed, but still be agile and hard to hit as a mother... I like his horizontal spins, but the vetical ones upset me. Yoda running through a crowd of stormtroopers relieving them of their feet would be so cool to me. Less Bad.

The overall issue would be to make Anakin and Padme's love affair interesting and less forced. They would have to travel (not from one field to another) and Anakin would actually protect her life from a viable threat, again, more of his darkside comes out. I would actually have them marry and in crisis to the point where Anakin is about to turn all on his own by the end of two, when the wars start. Someone's idea about Dooku being a mixed side jedi working the sith from the inside against the Jedi's protests is awesome to me. That would have been so hot.

Another small issue is the arena scene and battle. I think having a more varied terrain for Jedi battles: more on-the-steps action, battling in tunnels, jumping from platform to platform, tandem moves and such, would have given a much better picture of the scale of battle that was supposed to be occuring.

Revenge of the Sith

Anakins fall, was, imho the biggest shortcoming of the prequels. I never bought it. The jump from 1 to 2 was drastic an unforeshadowed as it was, but when Anakin went all out against everyone, I just didn't see the need for it... I didn't see Anakin as being that emotionally unstable. A more shakespearean approach: Anakin believing Padme to be dead, would have been FAR more believable a push to the darkside, and given credibility to everything he did after that: True desperation while giving the audience a real sense of the tragedy that is Darth Vader.

I also would have put him in Vader gear MINUS the helmet and chest plate with buttons (as though they were life support and the costume itself was symbolic) dramatically just before he stormed the Jedi temple, perhaps even still carrying Dooku's lightsaber for dual bladed fury... I would even get artful and have him only attack with the red and only defend with the blue. Heh.

Regardless, I feel all the pieces are there, but that some tweaking would have put the Prequel Trilogy on that LOTR level.

This is exactly what should have been done. Well done GL. WELL DONE!
 
^Face it you guys have horrible ideas. The stories to prequels were fine. Lucas is just a poor director and writer. Most of your complaints stem from the fact that you read EU and expected mandalorians and serial killer vader hunting down the jedi.

1.The star wars movies are the ONLY canon you should take seriously.

2. Having anakin doing bad deeds in the first movie is stupid and shows how little you guys really understand star wars.

3. Everyone wanted anakin to be like darth vader without the black suit. Anakin was once a GOOD person. He didnt come out of his mothers womb force choking the DR.

4.Boba Fett is a p.ussy a.ss bounty hunter. He is lame, he is not special, and I am glad that lucas had the balls to treat his charachter like the trash that he is.

5. The jedi are not warriors. Thousands of jedi charging an army of mandalorians lotr style is not what the series is about.

6. A movie about darth vader hunting down the jedi like halloween or freddy kreuger is ******ed. Vader is smart. He's not going to take the time to hunt a jedi down and tell his army to stand down while they duel. He's going to tell the clones to blast the hell out of them.

7. Darth maul was cool and I wish they could have found away to keep him around, but some half ass comic book villian escape wasnt gonna cut it.

8. And finally you guys ruined what could have been the greatest arc in the prequels next to anakins fall. Jar Jar binks was well on his way to becoming a brave warrior by the end of the series. Imagine the drama of a stronger jar jar standing up to anakin only to be brutalized. This would show how much both charachters had changed. Unfortunatley lucas actually listened to you whiny *****es and wrote him out of the series.

You whiny *******s ruined SW with your crappy mandalorians and OMG LIK ANAKIN IS SO WEAK.
 
^Face it you guys have horrible ideas. The stories to prequels were fine. Lucas is just a poor director and writer. Most of your complaints stem from the fact that you read EU and expected mandalorians and serial killer vader hunting down the jedi.

1.The star wars movies are the ONLY canon you should take seriously.

2. Having anakin doing bad deeds in the first movie is stupid and shows how little you guys really understand star wars.

3. Everyone wanted anakin to be like darth vader without the black suit. Anakin was once a GOOD person. He didnt come out of his mothers womb force choking the DR.

4.Boba Fett is a p.ussy a.ss bounty hunter. He is lame, he is not special, and I am glad that lucas had the balls to treat his charachter like the trash that he is.

5. The jedi are not warriors. Thousands of jedi charging an army of mandalorians lotr style is not what the series is about.

6. A movie about darth vader hunting down the jedi like halloween or freddy kreuger is ******ed. Vader is smart. He's not going to take the time to hunt a jedi down and tell his army to stand down while they duel. He's going to tell the clones to blast the hell out of them.

7. Darth maul was cool and I wish they could have found away to keep him around, but some half ass comic book villian escape wasnt gonna cut it.

8. And finally you guys ruined what could have been the greatest arc in the prequels next to anakins fall. Jar Jar binks was well on his way to becoming a brave warrior by the end of the series. Imagine the drama of a stronger jar jar standing up to anakin only to be brutalized. This would show how much both charachters had changed. Unfortunatley lucas actually listened to you whiny *****es and wrote him out of the series.

You whiny *******s ruined SW with your crappy mandalorians and OMG LIK ANAKIN IS SO WEAK.

Dude, I loved that. Passion is always cool. x
 
2. Having anakin doing bad deeds in the first movie is stupid and shows how little you guys really understand star wars.
Agreed on this point.

4.Boba Fett is a p.ussy a.ss bounty hunter. He is lame, he is not special, and I am glad that lucas had the balls to treat his charachter like the trash that he is.
Boba Fett was cool in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, when he was mysterious and eerie. Lucas then took a dump on the character in RETURN OF THE JEDI.

I stand by my assertion that Boba Fett shouldn't have been in the prequels. Period.

5. The jedi are not warriors. Thousands of jedi charging an army of mandalorians lotr style is not what the series is about.
Eh, it could have very well been a part of the prequel trilogy if Lucas had wanted to be, and it wouldn't have felt out of place if the prequel trilogy had been given a certain tone. If I do say so myself, it would have been pretty cool, though it wasn't at all necessary and isn't the kind of thing that was needed to make the prequel trilogy great.

8. And finally you guys ruined what could have been the greatest arc in the prequels next to anakins fall. Jar Jar binks was well on his way to becoming a brave warrior by the end of the series. Imagine the drama of a stronger jar jar standing up to anakin only to be brutalized. This would show how much both charachters had changed. Unfortunatley lucas actually listened to you whiny *****es and wrote him out of the series.
Thank god Lucas listened to us. Jar Jar would never be able to be taken seriously as a legitimate warrior. It's just not possible.
 
I stand by my assertion that Boba Fett shouldn't have been in the prequels. Period.
GL has said with his own mouth that there was never any idea to include him, and no reason to, but he saw how immensely popular the character had become since ROTJ came out and he put him in solely because of popular demand.......which makes it pretty amusing when Prequel-Lovers always say, "It doesn't matter if you didn't like the story, it's George's story. He's an artist and he does things his way."

similar to how you can watch George in the documentaries, gushing with enthusiasm about "the funniest character we've ever had in the saga" (JarJar)...so confident that he was going to be a Blockbuster legend that he spent way more on bringing him to life than he did on Yoda...and then when he was universally despised...*BlOiNk*, his role is reduced to almost nothing.
 
Most people pretty much covered all the bases, so I don't have much to say except...If you liked the prequels, you don't mind awful dialogue, terrible, stiff performances, weak storylines, character motivations and too much damn sometimes spotty CGI.:up: Good for you but I consider episode one, one of the worse movies ever, episode two is slightly better but still terrible and episode three is mediocre.
 
GL has said with his own mouth that there was never any idea to include him, and no reason to, but he saw how immensely popular the character had become since ROTJ came out and he put him in solely because of popular demand.......which makes it pretty amusing when Prequel-Lovers always say, "It doesn't matter if you didn't like the story, it's George's story. He's an artist and he does things his way."

similar to how you can watch George in the documentaries, gushing with enthusiasm about "the funniest character we've ever had in the saga" (JarJar)...so confident that he was going to be a Blockbuster legend that he spent way more on bringing him to life than he did on Yoda...and then when he was universally despised...*BlOiNk*, his role is reduced to almost nothing.
Absolutely, you would think that after all of his big talk he would have had the balls to keep JarJar as a main character, no matter what the fans said.
 
^ Thats my only gripe with the series. Jar Jar's arc could have been ****ing epic. Everybody wants cgi jedi vs sith battles, but something that could have been developed into a truly emotional and dramatic event was glossed over for boba fett and a ****ing chewbaca cameo.
 
^ Thats my only gripe with the series. Jar Jar's arc could have been ****ing epic. Everybody wants cgi jedi vs sith battles, but something that could have been developed into a truly emotional and dramatic event was glossed over for boba fett and a ****ing chewbaca cameo.
You misunderstand me, I think that JarJar is an awful character that should have never been created.
 
The only thing "Epic" JarJar could've been associated with is maybe an Epic fart joke. :down:o
Kind of like Adam Sandler's "Longest Piss".
 
I've seen this a lot from people who liked the prequels. So defensive.

If someone likes them, I'll say, "No WAY, dude!" and list the factors, not the matters of opinion, but the elements that were just empirically traits of "bad movies". That's about it.

But prequel-lovers have this extra need to "ban" people who didn't like them, and to equate them with "whiners" or use all manner of insults, for people who're just Star Wars fans who enjoy analyzing and talking about the films, for good or for bad.
For instance, if all these decades later, you go on and on, still, about all of the things that make the movies so much more than movies, and your affection for the movies?....that's great.

But, if you also go on and on about ANYthing derogatory, the things that weren't great....then it's always, "This has been covered a million times. Stop your whining. You're a broken record.", etc. :o

I can't imagine in a hundred years ever even thinking along the lines of "BANNING" "Emo-Lucas-Zombies" from watching certain films or from saying, "Hey, I liked the prequels."

Pretty telling.:o

A person who preferred the good trilogy, that started in the 70's, often has a boatload of hate for Lucas, for JarJar, for Anakin, for Midichlorians, for scenes, situations, dialogue, effects, etc.

But pro-prequel people often have a seething hatred for anyone who threatens their world view by daring to have a strongly-held, but contrary opinion. :o

I never said anything about banning them off a stupid message board. I just meant that people who are predisposed to ***** and whine-like emo crying netnerd fanboys-shouldn't even get in the door for these movies cos they're gonna hate them anyway. Honestly, I don't know why any of you guys even bothered to watch them. Most of you had already decided ahead of time that they were going to suck and that Lucas had raped your childhood or wtf ever.

99.9% of people on the internet hate the prequels.

I can't help it if I have the guts to go against the grain. I like what I like. They have their flaws, but to me they have more good moments than bad and ROTS in particular is as good as anything in the OT. So sue me.
 
I never said anything about banning them off a stupid message board. I just meant that people who are predisposed to ***** and whine-like emo crying netnerd fanboys-shouldn't even get in the door for these movies cos they're gonna hate them anyway.

By this logic I suppose you, in turn, should be banned from these topics, since you're pretty obviously predisposed to ***** and whine like "an emo crying netnerd fanboy" when it comes to these discussions eh?

Honestly, I don't know why any of you guys even bothered to watch them.

I watched Phantom Menace because I was hoping to see a great prequel to a scifi trilogy I had quite enjoyed. I watched the other ones because I was hoping for improvement. So sue me.

Most of you had already decided ahead of time that they were going to suck and that Lucas had raped your childhood or wtf ever.

How do you know this? Seriously... how? Oh, I'll answer... You don't! You're just trying to make observation (loads of people watching the prequels and thinking they sucked) fit your view of reality (no one could genuinely dislike the movies, they must have already made their mind up, or been brainwashed, or whatever... Quick everyone! Get your tin foil hats!), sort of like a small child trying to make the square peg fit in the circular hole.
 
I must be the only person on the internet who prefers the PT over the OT. The first time I saw PM I was about ten and I loved it. My older brother and all of his friends hated it. They started telling me all this stuff about mandalorians and the jedi purge, and I had never heard of any of that stuff. I never read Eu or any of that other crap. If it wasnt in one of the movies than as far as I was concerned it didnt exist. I think thats the main problem people have with the prequels. I will admit some of it is GL's fault. He should have kept a tighter reign on what was written about his series. But it is LUCAS'S series. If he doesent want the horribly overated boba fett, cgi jedi vs sith battles, and serial killer vader he doesent have to.
 
Just curious as to know what you would of done to make this trilogy better.

First I would get all copies of the prequel and all prints and all evidence, put them in a huge pile and then put a pile of my own fecal matter on top and light a match.



Then I would get a 3 of the best SW novel writers to flesh out the story. Then once completed I would have a 3 directors for each.

The first would be - Peter Jackson

The 2nd would be - Irwin Kershner (Back up would be Ridley Scott)

The 3rd would be - Steven Speilberg
 
Just curious as to know what you would of done to make this trilogy better.

1. NO JAR JAR BINKS

2. Padme doesn't lose the will to live in [Episode III] :cmad:

3. No Kid Anakin [In episode I]

IMO The OT is still 100 x 100 better than the PT .

THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY IS STILL A MASTERPIECE !!!!!!!!!!
 

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