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Discussion in 'X-Men 1, 2 & 3' started by bosef982, Apr 21, 2006.
This mass hysteria regarding the movie's running time has officially gone beyond the point of ridiculous now.
So you're all going to be boycotting a DVD of a movie no one has seen yet?
Do you honestly think that's going to get you what you want?
Like everyone says...it's all about the money. You skip the DVD, they don't make any money. Studio officials aren't going to look at that and say "Hey, we better start making these movies longer!" They're going stop making them at all because they're not making any money.
And do you think it would be better at any other studio? Hell no. Their job is (and always was) to make money.
Look, I've been a fangirl most of my life...I can understand the frustration when a movie doesn't work out the way you want it too. I waited 16 years for the Star Wars prequels, and I liked them...but I wanted them to be a lot better. I've seen my favorite Stephen King novel ("Salem's Lot") butchered into a movie version twice. And I want to kick the crap out of Chris Columbus every time he tries to explain why he cut the song "Goodbye Love" out of the movie version of "Rent."
But you have to remember, a ton of the people seeing these movies aren't fanboys/girls. They don't check message boards or read script reviews...I don't even think most of my friends even know what AICN is (and good for them!). They don't obsess over who's not wearing yellow spandex or where Superman's shield is located on his costume. They don't know that there's a new director...or care.
And they certainly won't be showing up at a screening of X3 on opening day with a stopwatch to track the running time and making signs they plan to use for their DVD protest at Fox. Honestly, I hate to say it...but they're sometimes more fun to see the movie with.
Movie studios do want to make their fans happy, that's the built-in audience. But they do also want to get as many butts in the seats as possible, so as long as there are movie adaptations, sadly, there are also going to be compromises.
Guys, it's been a said a million times since yesterday, but since everyone would prefer to overreact than listen to reason, I'll say it again. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET!!!
By the way...do you realize how silly that protest looks to the outside world at this point? "X-Men fans are fuming over the running time of the new sequel. Despite the fact that none of them have actually seen the film..."
See...this is when the non-fanboys/girls laugh at us.
So calm down. Put down your pitchforks and just relax, ok??
That's what I've been trying to say all day it seems like!! (Sigh...)
P.S. That sigh is my last comment on this ridiculous topic!!
I really love how simple conversations get spun into a debate over extremes... Not to pick on you, but you just played a little spin city with the comments made here.
if some outsider reads this forum and only walks away with the concept you posted above, then that's their 'single brain cell' having problem.
Yes, there have been a few people here who fumed over the run time of the movie and declared it a crapfest on these terms ... But the thread starter did not, in fact he stated his intentions several times. So why is it that the comments of a few are the highlighted and continued factor of the discussion? Why, because it's an easy position to attack the wingnut standing on the ledge and lump everyone else in with the lone wingnut instead of holding a discussion where you may actually be forced to contemplate something you won't like.
...because we all know how much we 'love' to accept things we don't like.
Hardly. I believe the original post was about a DVD protest.
Again, hardly. They're saying "these people are freaking out over a movie they haven't seen yet?? Get a LIFE!!"
A few? The running time thread had over 1000 posts when I checked this morning
No, his post acted like the studio heads at Fox were going to be denying us all food and water for the rest of our lives because the movie is 17 minutes shorter than we thought it would be.
Because like the AICN script review, the teaser posters, the wait for online updates, the status of a Gambit appearance, and the possible fate of Cyclops...it is the subject that just won't die.
Actually, I think the fact that the discussion (and overreaction) has gone on so long that the normal people are the ones out on the ledge at this point.
Great post. We all need to remember that we haven't even seen this movie yet. Anything we think we know is complete speculation.
Well said, danoyse.
No, he said this:
Let it not be the case this time. If X3 is not up to par with the franchise expectations, if its so short and so stunted that we are just appalled, we need to not settle for the DVD. We need to abstain. You want to hurt Fox, hurt them in their wallets. Hurt them by taking away their DVD, which is one of the major incomes for any movie production.
That, is a DVD protest. My argument was that protesting a DVD is not going to get anyone what the want. The movie loses money, they won't make any more.
I was never accusing him of telling people to protest a DVD of a movie they've never seen...it was the DVD protest in general that I was arguing against.
And it's the hysteria over several thread over the last day or so that suddenly the movie is going to "suck" because of it's running time that I just find ridiculous on general principle.
They don't have one brain cell. They have other things to do.
I barely have time to see X-Men 3 on opening day. My sister is getting married that weekend, I'm lucky to get the afternoon free to get out and see it. BUT I will see it.
Just the ones who pointed out that none of us has seen the movie and it's a little early to judge. A little disappointing to hear, sure...but the conspiracy theory and death knells ringing over there were a little ridiculous.
And I wasn't arguing his distaste with the studio. Just the idea of a DVD protest actually making a difference.
But since when are we entitled to steak? How much damage control have they had do to thanks to sites like AICN leaking script reviews and unfinished set photos. I can't imagine how much Brett Ratner loves being called a hack by the entire internet community. Or how much Halle Berry or Bryan Singer love the names they've been called on some of these other sites.
Again, I'm not ripping this site or the people who post here. The mods here are great at keeping that nastiness off of here, which is why I enjoy reading these boards. It just the hysteria over things like this have me wanting to slam my head into the wall.
And it shouldn't be a battlefield. Bosef was never telling anyone to protest a DVD of movie we haven't seen, and it was a well written post. But my post was really in response to how silly this whole freakout is.
Thank you...some people on here need to chilax and settle the F*** down.
Danoyse could not have said it any better.... people lets just face the fact that is: WE NEED TO GET A LIFE IF WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FREAKING RUN TIMES... but since we can't seem to improve in that department... we complain for the hell of it... all we pathetic, hopeless romantic fans can hope for is getting our 9$ worth, the money we get from our minimum wage jobs, when we go see the film, and we all know it will be an enjoyable film...
if i like the film i will buy the DVD
if i dont i wont
isnt that what everybody else is planning to do already?
why do so many think this movie is going to bomb?
Monsieur Sentinel!! How's it going buddy?
Yeah I've been lurking for a couple of days and decided to start posting again.
Bienvenido de nuevo chico! Esto es últimamente un manicomio, así que mejor ármate de paciencia.
Hola señorita, como estas?
Ya he visto la locura por aca pero no te preocupes a estas alturas yo estoy curado de espanto, jej.
Al fin y al cabo la raiz de los problemas es que la gente no quiere dialogar y ver los puntos de vista ajenos, prefieren discutir como perros arrabiados.
Están angustiados, llevan mucho tiempo siguiendo esta peli y cuando casi todo parecía ir bien, va y sale lo de 103 minutos... Qué mes y dos días nos quedan!
My apologies if I misunderstood, but your repeated comments about seeing the movie first, lead me to believe otherwise.
There will always be idiots, this doesn't mean that the rest of the fan base that supported and popularized a property doesn't deserve the royal treatment for sticking with their fan favorites, in some cases, for over 4 decades. All those names you listed above owe us, there is no such thing as fame and success without fans.
I don't think a lot of people feel this way, most of the posters making comments about gloom and doom have always had the same outlook. It's just becoming more frequent as we draw near to the May 26th release.
muy bien, gracias
I had resolved to lurking for a while, and will probably return to the that mode real soon. I definitely will not be checking here in the weeks before the movie... have to clean the pallete so to speak.
Va a ser de madre la cosa! Pero bueno, a veces uno se rie con la boberias de algunos
I hear ya. For me it all depends on how volatile this place gets in the coming month.
You also have to look at it from a business point of view. Consider the number of lawyers and law enforcement agents they have to employ to combat piracy, merchandising infringements, and other profit grabbing dopplegangers. These things all cost money.
The last Star Wars film is a perfect example of why studios do what they do, and cut the product short. Imagine how much money Lucas and Fox lost out on when that (high quality) bootleg DVD came out the same day the movie came out. Don't you think they have a right to fight for the revenues lost? And what better way to pay for all these services (for their benefit, mind you) than to shorten the film, and jack up the price of merchandise. And like you said, there are hardcore people/fans that are going to see it regardless.
No matter how bad the film is, most people are going to buy the DVD anyway. I, for one have made that mistake with lots of trilogies and regular movies... The entire Alien collection, the Star Wars collection, Van Helsing, and a few others.
Bottom line, the studios have their reasons for short changing us fans and general public. It all boils down to technology & public access, and profit.
And people laughed when I made this thread.
I hate to say I told you so.
MOving on, I'm not buyin the DVD. I'm not recommending this movie to anyone. I was suppose to go with my entire family this weekend to go see it, I'm not and I'll advise them to do the same. Luckily, I work in the mall at a kiosk where I engage customer's in requent discusison -- the X-Men trailer is actually playing at my kiosk too. I'll be sure to warn each and everyone of them about this film.
Fox should learn its lesson about how to treat key franchises.
How prophetic bosef turned out to be.
And bosef, just like I didn't buy the DVD's for Daredevil, Elektra, or Fantastic Four, I'm not buying the DVD of X-men 3 either.
The only DVD of X-men 3 I will buy is a complete re-edit, supervised by Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto.