Something We All May Need To Do Post-may 26!

Discussion in 'X-Men 1, 2 & 3' started by bosef982, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. RagingTempest Registered

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    HEY!!:mad: :p

    But seriously, the movie is still getting a lot of popularity!!! Just last month, yahoo said that the popularity for X3 grew 30% more!!! Plus, when I saw the teaser trailer in the theater, the audience reacted well. How can you say the trailers and tv spots didn't do anything, people have been raving about them on the internet. Trust me, this movie is attracting more people than you think!!:up:
     
  2. SuperT I See It, I Want It

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    Yea, but the Fantastic Four franchise didn't have two movies already under it's belt. ;)
     
  3. TheVileOne Registered

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    Yes we do have an idea. According to Avi Arad, bigger than X-men 1 and X-men 2. According to all the people a1ant is talking to its EPIC! More emotional, more action packed, and more dramatic. I find it hard to believe that can be done in a film that's shorter than the first movie.

    How do you know? This was a rushed train-wreck production. This running time we are hearing is comparable to just about every other Marvel Comic book movie they've released EXCEPT X-men 2.

    I never suggest it was edited down to meet a certain run time. I'm simply suggesting this is the run time Fox wanted from the start. A shorter movie.

    I'm not buying this distinction. The Phoenix arc needed to be there as it sets up the next movie. You can't just start removing integral character/plot arcs out of the movie to suit your argument.

    Once again I've already debunked this argument. X-men 2 had already established the characters as well.

    Don't give me this no time needs to be spent on development crap. Yes it does. They are already established but the characters need to continue to develop and grow. Just like Rogue, Iceman, and others did in the second movie and will continue to do in the third.

    This is a sloppy defense. Why does X-men 3 not need to do this? Oh right, its a rushed train-wreck movie with a rushed, train-wreck production schedule. Meaning? NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!

    Disregarding all of this, Avi Arad says this is an even BIGGER movie than the second one. We can see there are tons more characters and apparently according to everyone A LOT more going on than the last 2. So they can do all that in that short amount of time?

    The Incredibles was a kids movie too, but how long was that? Hmm . . . 115 minutes, the longest CG animated film of all time. Also longer than X-men, Daredevil, Elektra, and what was that? A KIDS MOVIE CALLED FANTASTIC FOUR.

    Titanic, Cast Away, Road To Perdition, and Fight Club were NOT Marvel Comic book movies. That's why I cited the others. I was pointing out Fox's track record and running times on previous Marvel Comic book based adaptations to movies.

    I'd say if the running time is what it apparently is, that's a pretty good symbol of how the studio wanted it to turn out.

    Yeah and the major creative forces behind X-men 1 and 2? Have nothing to do with this movie. Tom DeSanto? Gone. Bryan Singer? Gone. David Hayter? Gone. Dougherty and Harris? Gone.

    Instead we have the writer of XXX 2.

    I'm not calling boycott of Fox. I'm simply saying, I'm not surprised if this is the actual running time of the movie. It's exactly what I expected from this train-wreck, rushed production.

    It won't be a crap-fest because of a runtime. It will be a crapfest because it was a rushed train-wreck with a LCD-quality Hollywood director.
     
  4. oneteen James/Scott fan

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    People, this is an x-men forum. We are here to know everything there is to know about this 3rd and final movie. Why not enjoy (or ty to enjoy) every bit that is given to us. Sure it may not be perfect but hey, what is? I am here very excited about this movie which most of you all are but why pick out all the negatives? Sit back, relax. Take a breath if you need to. Don't be so down. :)
     
  5. TheVileOne Registered

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    I did that. For the last 2 movies ;) .
     
  6. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    I get deja vu reading these posts!!!
    Thankfully!! :up: :) Storm will FLY!! Woo-hoo!!!
    As opposed to a SciFi originals quality one!?! Sheesh. Are the only words you know crapfest, rushed and train wreck??? It will be fun to compare movies/directors/runtimes etc. etc. after May 26 and June 30! :D
     
  7. TheVileOne Registered

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    Yeah who cares if the movie is a disappointment, so long as you get to see your favorite movie star diva on wires you will won't even care.

    Thankfully. If it wasn't for Singer and his crew, they wouldn't have even gotten to a third movie so you could see her fly. Show some respect.

    Yes, and BO grosses I suppose.

    I've still yet to see Ratner make a better movie than Bryan Singer in all their films.
     
  8. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    Yup, that too! I'll check in with ya shortly after June 30!
    Just my HO but "Red Dragon" was "better" than X1/X2...totally different genres but hey...and don't get me wrong, I liked both X1 and X2! ;)
     
  9. flavio_lebeau Registered

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    i dont like Red Dragon at all, they way the missuse Hannibal...
    Anyway, i dont wanna make any strong opinion on the quality of the movie (X3)yet, simply because i havent watched. But its funny how every good news we have been received just disappear in front of a non-confirmed movie lenght news...
     
  10. TheVileOne Registered

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    Just my HO but "Manhunter was "better" than "Red Dragon".

    Also, if the running time is inaccurate, I will gladly eat crow because I don't want it to be true.

    But it doesn't seem wrong based off what Simon Kinberg has said before and Ratner saying he has a "short attention span."
     
  11. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    Bryan Singer did "Manhunter"? :D
     
  12. PhoenixRising Registered

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    *Claps*
     
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    No, the genius that is Michael Mann did
     
  14. BBraddockLover Registered

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    i love your avatar!!!
     
  15. TheVileOne Registered

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    No Michael Mann directed it. Manhunter is the superior version and was poorly remade by Brett Ratner into Red Dragon.
     
  16. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    Everyone has their HO, but I guess Anthony Hopkins thought it was OK...
    http://www.totalfilm.com/features/the_total_film_interview_-_anthony_hopkins
    Having played Hannibal Lecter three times, do you have a favorite out of the three films?
    "I actually think Red Dragon is the best of the three. It's the most interesting and frightening and scary. I tried to play him differently than I did in the other two films. I said to [director] Brett Ratner that I didn't just want to repeat what I did in Silence of the Lambs, so Lecter is so much angrier in Red Dragon. No charm. Just lethal."
     
  17. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    ^^
    By HO I meant humble opinion!! Doesn't look right! ;)
     
  18. Maze Proud AquaMomoa inventor

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    Hopkins is entitled to his opinion:

    rotten tomatoes has 70 prct fresh

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/red_dragon/

    Manhunter 91 PRCT
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1013248-manhunter/

    And imo Manhunter is a superior movie , indeed.
     
  19. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    Yup, and so am I...in that everything I have SEEN so far--with my own two eyes--leads me to think X3 will be GREAT, as opposed to a "train-wreck crapfest"! :D
     
  20. Maze Proud AquaMomoa inventor

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  21. Maze Proud AquaMomoa inventor

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    No problemo :)

    Now,let's get back in topic , let's respect bosef thread ok? :)
     
  22. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    And like I said, if the issue is Singer vs. Ratner, we will have a great chance to compare their work in the same genres this summer! But I'm not anti-Singer--just anti people bashing Ratner for ruining X3 when they haven't even seen the movie yet!! :)
     
  23. PhoenixRisen Registered

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    Deal. And I agree, if X3 is terrible no one should buy the DVD. To me that is a no brainer. Why would you buy the DVD of a terrible movie??
     
  24. BMM Registered

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    Regardless of what Anthongy Hopkins thinks, that quote still doesn't settle the comparison between Manhunter and Red Dragon, as it is referring to a different set of Hannibal movies. Besides, Hopkins is referring to the character's motivations--something previously established by the plot of Manhunter and the already established story told by both movies. It is not referring to Ratner's movie making ability.

    If we're not careful, this could turn into another Singer v. Ratner thread . . .

    Haha. You didn't mean ho?

    Agreed.
     
  25. Sun_Down Groovy

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    I vote that instead of "Spoiler" and "Non-Spoiler" forums, we have "*****ing" and "Non-*****ing" forums. This is getting ridiculous. No one here is in any position to say what the running time needs to be or why it is what is is/might be.
     

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