Sequels Sony Revives 'Venom' Solo Movie

[-JKR-]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this turns out.

 

[ironwez20]

Yes it will be very interesting. I can't wait to see how this plays out.

 

[I'm Venom]

I'm sure there are countless stories that don't involve Spider-Man, but his origin is tied to Spider-Man. They can alter it however they want, but when you change it much, it feels like, "Oh, let's capitalize off this brand name, but tell a different story." If the movie tanks, it will likely mean they won't touch Venom in the MCU for many years. Venom is a character who will be wasted in the wrong hands. Plus, having a Marvel Universe without Spider-Man is really dumb. What's the ultimate end goal of this "universe" - a team-up of Black Cat and Prowler or some ****? Just what the fans have been wanting for years!

 

[Spider-Aziz]

They can allude to a little history without going deep into it. I'm pretty sure I saw some great movies do that, I don't remember them at the moment.

 

[Shockdingo]

So, who would you guys cast alongside Hardy?

Ann Weying - I'm not sure, really. I'd like a compelling actress, but maybe someone not super A-list, in to keep people guess what she'd do, and disappear into the character.

Cletus Kasy- I'd like Jackie Earl Hayley or an unknown. I'd go for sinister with a few wise cracks from time to time, rather than slobbering mania. Certainly have some fun with it, but don't become Jim Carrey's the Riddler. Speaking of which, he could be a unexpected fit too.

Orwell Taylor- This man needs to be to be a lion. A guy who'd chase Brock to hell and back. I can easily see John Goodman bringing a larger than life gravitas to him and making audiences feel for him but be concerned with how far he's willing to go for justice.

What do you guys think? Who would you cast for this and future movies?

 

[PeterBenParker]

I'd honestly use anyone the MCU may not, and seeing how they're borrowing more from Miles' cast then Peter's, I don't see that changing too much.

Detective Terri Lee could be cool.

 

[The Joker]

Yea I get that but Sony had three times and also they have the same team that worked on the asm franchise so of course people are skeptical. So yea I don't see this being a success. Just a blantant cash grab.

With Avi Arad at the helm, that's exactly what it is.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

If the movie tanks, it will likely mean they won't touch Venom in the MCU for many years.

Music to my ears

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

Not true.

And Venom's first mini-series was set in San Francisco (wrote San Diego before - typo), so why can't the movie be? It's also a pretty underused location for these kinds of movies.

I just said it was impossible with regards to the Spider-Man connections now that Spidey is in the MCU, not that it was impossible to make it an enjoyable movie at all. It could have 100% on RT and critical acclaim, and I would enjoy it, but a little of that joy would be sapped knowing that it doesn't happen in-universe with my new cinematic Spider-Man, the one that audiences and fans have clamored for since 2008.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

For those wondering whether Tom Rothman learned his lesson or think that Sony wouldn't possibly be dumb enough to do VINO, go check out what he's doing to Nathan Drake.

 

[Nathan]

A Venom solo, a teenage Nathan Drake, can't Sony Studios just finally go under? They are already constantly tempting fate.

 

[samsnee]

They can allude to a little history without going deep into it. I'm pretty sure I saw some great movies do that, I don't remember them at the moment.

Logan most recently.

 

[Neno_Kos]

A Venom solo, a teenage Nathan Drake, can't Sony Studios just finally go under? They are already constantly tempting fate.

with those two and banking on Emoji to save them. It's guaranteed t:

 

[Spiderine]

A Venom solo, a teenage Nathan Drake, can't Sony Studios just finally go under? They are already constantly tempting fate.

This is great news. Because with each bonehead decision it makes they bring another nail in the coffin of Sony Pictures. Looking forward to more failures like Ghostbusters.

 

[Boom]

Sony can't go under until they've let Jordan Vogt-Roberts make Metal Gear. That is all.

 

[ironwez20]

Yea people tend to look past the people in charge of this thing. Just cause a director and cast are good don't mean it's a good movie. Garfield and Webb were both great but studio meddling ruined the franchise. Then we have tom rothman who is responsible for deadpool in origins. So yea big venom fans like me aren't really expecting a faithful adaptation. Just a soul less movie but we'll see.

 

[Shockdingo]

....wait....they're still trying to make an Uncharted movie and now Nathan's gonna be a teen?! *Sobs grossly as he remembers the joy the series brought him*

 

[harryoscop]

Interesting theory i found on Reddit:

Amid the news of Tom Hardy cast as Venom with the official tweet saying "Tom Hardy is Eddie Brock in #Venom, the upcoming film from Sony’s Marvel Universe releasing October 5, 2018 – production starts this fall." I thought this would be a good time to express some concerns i'm having.
Take Amy Pascal's comments from a while ago: “One of the things that I think is so amazing about this experience is that you don't have studios deciding to work together to make a film very often. In fact, it may never happen again--after we do the sequel." That quote sent most of us into a rage storm as she appears to be implying Spider-Man's departure from the MCU.
Kevin Feige even added to this saying "That's as far as it goes for now." when questioned on Spider-Man's MCU future after the 2019 sequel to Homecoming.
Given all this quaint uncertainty about Spider-Man in the MCU from Feige and Pascal, coupled with this new Venom development from "Sony's Marvel Universe" I think we should assume Sony is simply using Marvel to get the brand name back and then pull the rug out from under us, take the character back, and kickstart a spider-verse of Venom and Silver Sable and Black Cat movies that won't connect to Marvel and effectively kill one of the best cinematic incarnations of Spider-Man we've ever gotten. Hence I am deeply worried for Spider-Man's MCU future.


EDIT: Another worse case senario, which i've kinda noticed by the suspicious amount of "hammer hitting you over the head" MCU references in Homecoming is that Sony ends up using Tom Holland's spidey in their own Sony-verse trying to trick the average viewer it's the same one from the MCU when it isn't connected at all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Spiderman/comments/6cksgq/why_im_deeply_worried_for_spidermans_mcu_future/


This guy does put some pieces together.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I like him as a little of both. He's trying not to be a killer lunatic anymore. That's the entire point. He wants to be a hero. The actual character of Brock was a broken man with nothing left but hatred for an individual, and the suit used it to its advantage. Once Brock started to find himself and gain a measure of control over the suit, he probably started to become the man he was before his life was destroyed by Peter.

That's the strength of Eddie's character: unpredictability. He views himself as heroic, but his sense of right and wrong is severely warped. Even when his ultimate goals are just, he often does horrible things in the process that later mortify him. Likewise, the symbiote has a sense of nobility derived from the Klyntar hive mind, but separation from it's species, suggestibility from its host, and a tendency to be aggressive also make it volatile. Those two elements make a character with an unstable, explosive personality in Venom. It should be easy for Sony to come up with a tight story from that starting point.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Logan most recently.

I haven't tried that movie yet, I'm a home release anticipating man.

 

[-JKR-]

That's the strength of Eddie's character: unpredictability. He views himself as heroic, but his sense of right and wrong is severely warped. Even when his ultimate goals are just, he often does horrible things in the process that later mortify him. Likewise, the symbiote has a sense of nobility derived from the Klyntar hive mind, but separation from it's species, suggestibility from its host, and a tendency to be aggressive also make it volatile. Those two elements make a character with an unstable, explosive personality in Venom. It should be easy for Sony to come up with a tight story from that starting point.

Great post. My thoughts exactly.

 

[NotNickFury]

Perhaps Venom should be something akin to Split if we're talking about Eddie's warped personality and unpredictability.

 

[The Joker]

This is great news. Because with each bonehead decision it makes they bring another nail in the coffin of Sony Pictures. Looking forward to more failures like Ghostbusters.

 

[Mistah K88]

That's the strength of Eddie's character: unpredictability. He views himself as heroic, but his sense of right and wrong is severely warped. Even when his ultimate goals are just, he often does horrible things in the process that later mortify him. Likewise, the symbiote has a sense of nobility derived from the Klyntar hive mind, but separation from it's species, suggestibility from its host, and a tendency to be aggressive also make it volatile. Those two elements make a character with an unstable, explosive personality in Venom. It should be easy for Sony to come up with a tight story from that starting point.

I can see what you're saying with this. Even when he's more villainous when Spidey is around (when he knew who he was under the mask), sometimes he would do stuff just to eff with the superhero. Simple things like having tea with May, or even hanging around Peter's friends with NO plans to do anything to them at all but have Peter paranoid thinking the worse is going to happen. It was a "maybe he will, maybe he won't" situation compared to most villains who know their hero's ID; who can't help themselves but to attack anyone and anything that has to do with the hero when around them.

However, I'm worried about Sony's track record when it comes to Spidey related media. They've had some hits (SM1,2, Spectacular Spidey) but when they try to push something out just to spite Disney/Marvel, it doesn't go to well... but we'll see.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

Harry if that ends up being just 20% true, they will have earned Spider-fans wrath 1,000,000x over.