Spider-Man 3 Hype through the roof

Hahahahaha.

Transformers being in the top 3 of the summer has two chances -- slim and none. And slim just went out of town.

Shrek alone would own Transformers. Do you realize how successful Shrek 2 was? Same goes for Potter. Plus, I'm sure that once the reviews of Transformers start piling in, that won't help the film much.

Can we make a bet on this right now? Like a friendly bet, since we can't really bet with anything.

But I bet you that Transformers will NOT be in the top 3 highest grossing movies this year. So after all is said and done with all these big movies this year, we can declare of winner of the bet. Deal?

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Also, I think you underestimate the power of these established franchises, like Shrek or Harry Potter. I mean, these are some of the most successful movie franchises ever. And in all honesty, I can even see FF2 beating Transformers. I just don't see Transformers being that huge of a movie. But these franchises are the ones that are going to be getting all the attention this year, more so than Transformers. That's why I can't see it beating out a movie like Shrek 3 or Harry Potter 5.
Agreed on the bet. I dont underestimate these franschises its just there time frame of being released is going to pit themselves against eachother especially next month. To me it just seems like Shrek 3 is caught in this deadzone between Spider-man 3 and POTC 3 with no room to breathe. Well trust me in the coming months you'll see why Transformes is so huge because if you track the film and dig deep to see eveything there doing with it you would see why its so massive. Also no offense but I really dont care what you say about FF2 because I know that theres no way that FF2 will beat out Transformers. And the fact that some of these movies are established franchises may bore people after a while. I know I want to see something new and Transformers is the Golden Ticket to me. :woot: And those movies you defend arent getting awhole lot of attention lately save for Spider-man 3. Heck theres more footage of Transformers out than Shrek 3 and POTC 3 right now. I'm sure that will change by next week or so but sheesh, talk about a slow start.:huh:
 
By the time TF hits, people will already be served with at least 5 fantasy movies and a new Potter coming right after, and only two "real world" choices left for the normal audiences: "Evan Almighty" and "Die Hard 4". Sorry pal, but as always, one summer movie will be a sleeper hit, and one of those two I mentioned is most likely to surprise everyone with their stories, acting, jokes, whatever. Or it will be another kids movie like "Little Miss Sunshine" last year. Ratatouille maybe??? You never know. "Knocked Up" looks good too, opens a month before but you never know how that turns out. It's predecessor "The 40 year old virgin" was a sleeper hit too and marched through the whole summer.

TF might have some decent action, but people want to see a good story too. It's Michael Bay for god's sake! His last summer movie (the Island) was a huge disappointment. Bay would've to really knock that one out of the park to impress anyone. The minute bad word of mouth hits the street it will be over and action-people go to another round of F4, DH4 or watch the new Potter one week later. TF might make F4 money but not a dime more than $180 million in the long run. Bank on it.

Or let's take another scenario: It's looks like "Superman Returns" again. Fans in that forum went crazy how great it would be and sink the Titanic again, but in the end it was all just hype, a mixed word of mouth backlash and a sequel to a former hit launched one week later and took it's little steam that was left away.

See what I mean? TF is in the worst position between all those sequels.
 
By the time TF hits, people will already be served with at least 5 fantasy movies and a new Potter coming right after, and only two "real world" choices left for the normal audiences: "Evan Almighty" and "Die Hard 4". Sorry pal, but as always, one summer movie will be a sleeper hit, and one of those two I mentioned is most likely to surprise everyone with their stories, acting, jokes, whatever. Or it will be another kids movie like "Little Miss Sunshine" last year. Ratatouille maybe??? You never know. "Knocked Up" looks good too, opens a month before but you never know how that turns out. It's predecessor "The 40 year old virgin" was a sleeper hit too and marched through the whole summer.

TF might have some decent action, but people want to see a good story too. It's Michael Bay for god's sake! His last summer movie (the Island) was a huge disappointment. Bay would've to really knock that one out of the park to impress anyone. The minute bad word of mouth hits the street it will be over and action-people go to another round of F4, DH4 or watch the new Potter one week later. TF might make F4 money but not a dime more than $180 million in the long run. Bank on it.

Or let's take another scenario: It's looks like "Superman Returns" again. Fans in that forum went crazy how great it would be and sink the Titanic again, but in the end it was all just hype, a mixed word of mouth backlash and a sequel to a former hit launched one week later and took it's little steam that was left away.

See what I mean? TF is in the worst position between all those sequels.
Why do you keep saying FF 2 will make more money than Transformers?? No offense-Are you insane?? FF was complete garbage with numerous plot holes, medicore acting, action, and Special FX and just the story in general was stupid. I'm expecting more of the same from FF 2.

No Shrek 3 is in the worst postion of all the movies. Its placed between Spider-man 3 and POTC 3 and there going to tear eachother apart. Shrek 3 almost certainly will be lost in the shuffle and will have to play second fiddle once POTC 3 come out a week after it.

Whats with you naming a bunch of comedies and normal movies?? They have no chance of making it in to the top 5.

Transformers having "decent" action?? Ok lets get one thing straight, Michael Bay is a "action" director. Infact hes one of the best. Say what you will about the box office but saying the action will be ok is just mad. TF fans are whining because there afraid thats all thats going to be in the movie. Just giant robots fighting. Transformers has a massive marketing campaign. but you probably dont know much about it. Watch the campaign hasnt gone full force yet but come June there will be no avoiding Transformers and people will flood the theaters to watch it.

Also The Island bombed because Michael revealed way too much. Hell he revealed plot twists in the teaser trailer, hes watching himself this time.

Superman Returns sank because it was a snore fest. 2 hours of just meaningless gazing between Superduperman and Lois. Superman had no real opponent to fight with physically and thats what people wanted. Hell its been 20 years and we cant even get Superman to fight with a decent villain?? Not that Lex isnt a good villian its just that they should have maybe had 2 villians, Lex and some minion for Supes to fight with. And it didnt really bomb it just underperformed but it still earned back its budget.
 
How does Transformers have a slim to none chance of being in the top 3 of this Summer at the Box Office?? Why do you people keep underestimating Transformers?? It has all the makings to be a massive pop corn movie. It doesnt even matter about reviews. Look at 300. The reviews werent so hot and its still making money. What you dont seem to get is that Shrek 3 and POTC 3 are going to tear eachother apart. POTC 3 releases a week, not two weeks, one week after Shrek 3. Shrek 3 will have hardly anytime to gain the Shrek 2 gross. POTC 3 will most likely crush Shrek 3. Also Spider-man 3 will still be playing so its slim to none for that Shrek 3 will make as much as Shrek 2. Plus I've seen clips and the humor isnt all that great. Infact the only character that I have ever really enjoyed in the Shrek films was Puss N Boots and he came out in 2. Plus there introducing the IMO annoying concept of the Main Characters children which always leads to vomit and fart jokes. POTC 3 should be able to earn as much or more as POTC 2 but that just depends on FF 4 2(Ugh). Transformers has no real competition in the month of July save for Harry Potter a week later. Which doesnt matter because Transformers is fresh. I'm tired off seeing numbers on my movies. Lets get some new stuff in. Not to mention there hasnt been a Transformers movie in 20 years and fans might have to wait another 20 if they dont see this one. Transformers WILL be in the top 3.
1.Spider-man 3
2.POTC 3
3.Transformers
4. Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix
5. Shrek 3
6. FF 4 2
7. Live Free Die Hard.

Hmm, switch 3 with 4 and you could have something there. :hyper: I'm so tired of Shrek.
IMO, but the bottom two could be lower than that, and I'm hoping that their good.
 
Hmm, switch 3 with 4 and you could have something there. :hyper: I'm so tired of Shrek.
IMO, but the bottom two could be lower than that, and I'm hoping that their good.
Agreed. Transformers and Potter will be at eachothers necks but I'm leaning towards Transformers just because it's fresh. Same here about Shrek. I'm tired of it.
 
Agreed. Transformers and Potter will be at eachothers necks but I'm leaning towards Transformers just because it's fresh. Same here about Shrek. I'm tired of it.

We know you're tired of Shrek, but what about the kids that help make Shrek 2 one of the most successful box office hits ever? You think they're gonna be tired of Shrek? Also, Potter may not be fresh, but he's more popular than ever, with the anticipation of this film and the newest book coming out later this year.

Ans as for FF2, yes, the original sucked. It sucked hard. However, it made a pretty good amount of money and was one of the most successful films of its year. No where near a flop. And this one does kindof look cooler, even though I have no plans to see it. I wouldn't count this out.

I have no doubt that Transformers will be a hit. But top 3? Not happening.
 
Whats with you naming a bunch of comedies and normal movies?? They have no chance of making it in to the top 5.

Transformers having "decent" action?? Ok lets get one thing straight, Michael Bay is a "action" director. Infact hes one of the best. Say what you will about the box office but saying the action will be ok is just mad. TF fans are whining because there afraid thats all thats going to be in the movie. Just giant robots fighting. Transformers has a massive marketing campaign. but you probably dont know much about it. Watch the campaign hasnt gone full force yet but come June there will be no avoiding Transformers and people will flood the theaters to watch it.

Also The Island bombed because Michael revealed way too much. Hell he revealed plot twists in the teaser trailer, hes watching himself this time.

Superman Returns sank because it was a snore fest. 2 hours of just meaningless gazing between Superduperman and Lois. Superman had no real opponent to fight with physically and thats what people wanted. Hell its been 20 years and we cant even get Superman to fight with a decent villain?? Not that Lex isnt a good villian its just that they should have maybe had 2 villians, Lex and some minion for Supes to fight with. And it didnt really bomb it just underperformed but it still earned back its budget.
SR was a snoozefest and also had a terrible story. It only made it's money back cause it was friggin Superman. Just adding high amounts of action doesn't do anything but create another X3, F4 type of movie. Big hype and a huge BO drop in the second week.

TF is not a sequel, it has to build some ground and impress with it's marketing, good actors, great story and visuals. Sorry but Bay = mediocrity! He's in the same league like Bratt Ratner.
All the other action movies already have a fanbase to build up on, even F4.
No way in hell is TF going to be in the top 5 this year. You're delirious just like the "Snakes on a Plane" and Superman fans last year. You actually believe the hype you created yourself. No one in the outside world gives a hoot about Transformers. Whatever action they put in the trailers, if the story sucks (and Bay pretty much guarantees it), it'll end up with a nice opening and huge drop when Potter hits.

Why am I bringing up the comedies and "normal" movies? Cause in the last few summers there always was at least one normal movie that outdid one or two highly anticipated movies. Not everyone likes sci-fi and fantasy or only in small amounts. You overestimate the publics interest in crazy action movies. Especially when they already got served several of them for 2 months in a row. "Evan Almighty" has the biggest appeal to families while F4, DH4 and Potter5 have the biggest chances to draw interest from the older crowds cause most people already know what to expect from them. TF doesn't bring anything new to the table. Fighting robots are nothing impressing in 2007. Neither is a flying man punching or lifting stuff. Anyone knows what CGI can do since LotR, Star Wars and the tons of Marvel movies coming every year. The actual story makes or breaks a movie.

But please, go on and delude yourself. Just don't start crying when everything you've dreamed of falls apart and you face the cold face of reality.
 
We know you're tired of Shrek, but what about the kids that help make Shrek 2 one of the most successful box office hits ever? You think they're gonna be tired of Shrek? Also, Potter may not be fresh, but he's more popular than ever, with the anticipation of this film and the newest book coming out later this year.

Ans as for FF2, yes, the original sucked. It sucked hard. However, it made a pretty good amount of money and was one of the most successful films of its year. No where near a flop. And this one does kindof look cooler, even though I have no plans to see it. I wouldn't count this out.

I have no doubt that Transformers will be a hit. But top 3? Not happening.
I agree! There's no way that "TransFormers" (as much as I'm awaiting that movie too!) will beat "3"! No way in hell... I dont see what the big deal is about Shrek either though, but it must have something I guess. I'm not too much in to Harry Potter either, but for some reason I always find my self sitting in the theater with someone on opening night:huh: ... FF4 DID suck huge balls... But again, with as lame as those superhero characters are to begin with, they did an ok job anyways... The sequel could very well be better though.
 
SR was a snoozefest and also had a terrible story. It only made it's money back cause it was friggin Superman. Just adding high amounts of action doesn't do anything but create another X3, F4 type of movie. Big hype and a huge BO drop in the second week.

TF is not a sequel, it has to build some ground and impress with it's marketing, good actors, great story and visuals. Sorry but Bay = mediocrity! He's in the same league like Bratt Ratner.
All the other action movies already have a fanbase to build up on, even F4.
No way in hell is TF going to be in the top 5 this year. You're delirious just like the "Snakes on a Plane" and Superman fans last year. You actually believe the hype you created yourself. No one in the outside world gives a hoot about Transformers. Whatever action they put in the trailers, if the story sucks (and Bay pretty much guarantees it), it'll end up with a nice opening and huge drop when Potter hits.

Why am I bringing up the comedies and "normal" movies? Cause in the last few summers there always was at least one normal movie that outdid one or two highly anticipated movies. Not everyone likes sci-fi and fantasy or only in small amounts. You underestimate the publics interest in crazy action movies. Especially when they already got served several of them for 2 months in a row. "Evan Almighty" has the biggest appeal to families while F4, DH4 and Potter5 have the biggest chances to draw interest from the older crowds cause most people already know what to expect from them. TF doesn't bring anything new to the table. Fighting robots are nothing impressing in 2007. Neither is a flying man punching or lifting stuff. Anyone knows what CGI can do since LotR, Star Wars and the tons of Marvel movies coming every year. The actual story makes or breaks a movie.

But please, go on and delude yourself. Just don't start crying when everything you've dreamed of falls apart and you face the cold face of reality.
SR Would have done alot better is Singer would have added more action. I wasnt talking about getting rid of the story which wasnt exactly terrible but was just long and tedious. And then going against the comics and suddenly giving SP the ability to resist Krypotinite?? That was the stupidest part of the film to me. SR's story was way better than X3s and F4 story ever was. It just put you to sleep, thats it.

TF is not a sequel, it has to build some ground and impress with it's marketing, good actors, great story and visuals.
Well many of those things are done and going to be done. The marketing campaign hasnt kicked into full gear because its only April, and its still farther ahead than Shrek 3 in terms of advertising. Good Actors?? Well we have Shia who has already proven himself as a actor. We have Tyrese who isnt a Oscar Winner but anyone who has seen Baby Boy knows that hes ok in his own right. We also have Jon Voight who some people may not like but hes still a good actor. Not to mention all the voice actors such as Peter Cullen, Keith David, and Hugo Weaving, and serveral other unknown voice actors one of which I'm betting will be Frank Welker. Visuals?? Are you serious?? The CGI is being done by Industrial Light and Magic one of the leading houses in Special FX, who created the CGI of the Original SWs and its Prequels(ugh), The Hulk, The Abyss( Mind you it had the first 3D CGI character ever), T2:Judgement Day, Jurassic Park, the Mask and POTC 2, so I think that would make you think were in good hands. Also ILM has stated themselves these are the most difficult and impressive CGI they have ever done, and Bay has already proven himself a excellent action director (for the good and bad) so you can expect a mind blowing experience in terms of visuals. The only thing thats iffy right now is the story and thats underwraps and cant be judged until it comes out.

TF doesn't bring anything new to the table. Fighting robots are nothing impressing in 2007.
Doesnt bring anything new?? Tell me a recent movie with CGI that had dueling races of aliens that transform from vehicles into robots that wage war on our planet. Sounds pretty new to me. Also in that case where TF does bring anything new to the table than neither does Spider-man 3, or F4, Nor Die Hard 4, or Potter 5.

Diehard 4 and F4 2?? Are you serious again?? Die Hard 4 has a better chance of getting farther than F4 2. You should hear with what there doing with Galactus. A cloud. Nuff Said. Diehard 4 wont be as big as you think it will. Its the fact that its so old the reason why its not going to be as big as its predeccessors, plus some stupid decisions( Justin Long?? Internet Terrorists?? come on now), its like wanting another Lethal Weapon with Mel and crew back in tow but there all too old. I'll keep a open mind about them so I wont bash them but I dont expect either to be good or do terribley well.

Not everyone likes sci-fi and fantasy or only in small amounts. You underestimate the publics interest in crazy action movies.
It appears you messed up in your grammar. You said I under estimate the publics view on action movie not over. Not everone like comedies. You over estimate the publics interest in comedies. Double edged sword.

You're delirious just like the "Snakes on a Plane" and Superman fans last year. You actually believe the hype you created yourself. No one in the outside world gives a hoot about Transformers.

But please, go on and delude yourself. Just don't start crying when everything you've dreamed of falls apart and you face the cold face of reality.
No one gave a hoot about 300 until they started seing the Trailers. Wait until June. No I'm not delirous like the SOAP fans or the SR fans. I dont but into the hype. I saw those movies on DVD. And I rented too. I never have goten on saying Transformers will be the greatest movie ever like the SOAP fans did. Hell I still have doubts about the movie. I just keep a open mind. So ok I will give you this. Transformers might not make it into the top 3 but without a doubt (and theres no way in hell im backing down from this) it will be in the top 5. Shrek 3 as stated before needs to get its act in gear already, its underwhelming so far the footage we have seen(of Shrek 3), and I have stated this multiple times that it is stuck between two juggernauts. POTC 3 can deliver funny and still be good for the kids seing how charming and witty Jack is and parents get a kick out of him too. The only thing is the violence that might set them off or the long run time. So no im not delirious over transformes nor will I shed a tear if its not in the top 3 this summer. I know that Spide3 will certainly beat it out as well as POTC 3 and most likely Potter 5 but thats it. Shrek is a no-no no matter what you say to me.
 
Uups, of course I meant "overestimate". But I don't overestimate the draw power of comedies resp. family movies. On of them will be a sleeper hit and crawl past the $150 million like the last years.

Anyway, I just checked IMDB again and DAMN is this summer packed with either big budget sequels or promising small movies. Spidey and the Pirates have the biggest chances to come out on top this year. The rest will tear themselves apart in June/July. And something else waits in the shadows of July we forgot to mention: The Simpsons Movie.

This summer is gonna be huge for the studios.
 
Uups, of course I meant "overestimate". But I don't overestimate the draw power of comedies resp. family movies. On of them will be a sleeper hit and crawl past the $150 million like the last years.

Anyway, I just checked IMDB again and DAMN is this summer packed with either big budget sequels or promising small movies. Spidey and the Pirates have the biggest chances to come out on top this year. The rest will tear themselves apart in June/July. And something else waits in the shadows of July we forgot to mention: The Simpsons Movie.

This summer is gonna be huge for the studios.
we finally agree on something ^^^^^^^^^ I also compeltly forgot about the Simpsons Movie.
 
Yeah, Transformers is going to be HUGE. Even if it only has a decent story, I personally liked it- I mean, heck I started feeling for Bumblee.

This movie is produced by who that will attract attention? Bingo. STEVEN SPIELBURG!

They're going to "milk" that name for all they got.

Plus, people- I think- are most interested in seeing these fckin' amazing robots and special effects tearing each other apart. ILM is behind this so expect something AMAZING.

I doubt 'The Island' failed at box office because of Bay- most likely the audience wasn't interested in the story... but using ONE movie against him? Lol.

Here: Big fckin' robots, awesome fight sequences, Steven Spielburg, Michael Bay, Transformers.

And first one? Other firsts- Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, etc. etc.

I am not say it's a definite, but if you (Grinder) are seriously underestimating it.

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STORY: When the trailer first premiered I was watching it before class. A student comes by, notices it's Transformers and says "dude, is that the trailer?" I say that it is. Next thing I know, most of the guys in my class were standing behind me wanting to see the trailer.

No hype? That's the FIRST time that I have ever seen anything like that happen- and that's your college population right there.
 
I think the Box Office this year will be:

U.S. Box Office:
1. Spider-Man 3
2. Pirates of the Carribean 3
3. Harry Potter 5
4. Shrek 3
5. Ratatouille
6. 300
7. The Golden Compass
8. Transformers
9. Ocean's 13
10. Die Hard 4
 
I think the Box Office this year will be:

U.S. Box Office:
1. Spider-Man 3
2. Pirates of the Carribean 3
3. Harry Potter 5
4. Shrek 3
5. Ratatouille
6. 300
7. The Golden Compass
8. Transformers
9. Ocean's 13
10. Die Hard 4
I'm not going off again. Another Transformers underestimater.:cmad: O well. I know what I think. One question. How do you think that 300, a R rated film. That basically rode on its coolness factor to box office glory will out gross Transformers, a PG-13 film, thats riding on the same horse?? I agree with you bottom and top 2 choices but you got the rest screwed up IMO.
 
Let me fix that:

1. Spider-Man 3
2. POTC 3
3. Shrek 3
4. Harry Potter 5 (3D saved it)
5. Transformers
6. Simpsons movie
7. 300
8. Oceans 13
9. Die Hard 4

I'm not familiar with Golden Compass, thus I didn't put it in there.

But, HP and Transformers are going to be running neck to neck.

Rat seems horrible by previews, but Simpsons has LOTS of fans over the generations- thus it and Shrek are going to be the top animation films of the year.

Rat will do about the same business as Robinsons or perhaps Ant Bully. It's not enough to be PIXAR and animated- name doesn't sell, the story and entertaining quality of the story does- Rat seems to be animated good, but doesn't seem entertaining.

And as for Shrek, that's being underestimated too. It's another good film in the trilogy that is really shaping up.
 
I am from the Philippines, a country that loves superheroes. Spider-man is the no. 1 hero here. The hype is too much to contain. Like many countries in Asia, the showing is on May 1(tomorrow). This is not a exageration but all theaters here will show spider-man 3. No other movie will compete tomorrow. This is the 1st time it happened to my country. All seats have been reserved since last week. Industry reports are already sure that SM3 will break the opening day record by a big margin which was previously held by SM2.
 
I talked to one of the people who runs the theatre in my town. It's the only theatre in a large suburban city, and they have 20 screens. Supposedly, they'll have 7 prints for Spider-Man 3 and are still organizing the schedules today for Friday.
 
From The Box Office Mojo Forums:
Reel Source and MTC BOTH have it [Spidey 3] over DMC's opening weekend. (They are tracking sources; RS has it at $137 million, while MTC is up to $153 million.)
 
Let me fix that:

1. Spider-Man 3
2. POTC 3
3. Shrek 3
4. Harry Potter 5 (3D saved it)
5. Transformers
6. Simpsons movie
7. 300
8. Oceans 13
9. Die Hard 4

I'm not familiar with Golden Compass, thus I didn't put it in there.

But, HP and Transformers are going to be running neck to neck.

Rat seems horrible by previews, but Simpsons has LOTS of fans over the generations- thus it and Shrek are going to be the top animation films of the year.

Rat will do about the same business as Robinsons or perhaps Ant Bully. It's not enough to be PIXAR and animated- name doesn't sell, the story and entertaining quality of the story does- Rat seems to be animated good, but doesn't seem entertaining.

And as for Shrek, that's being underestimated too. It's another good film in the trilogy that is really shaping up.

I like this list alot better! i think the next movie on my scope is transformers
 
You're all underestimating Transformers. It could EASILY be the number 3 movie of the year.
 
I believe that it has a chance to be #3. It's my second most anticipated movie of the summer, actually- I personally loved the screenplay and can't wait to see it brought to life.

Just saying how it looks so far- July will probably change that. But, for now it's HEAD-TO-HEAD with Harry Potter for forth. As I said earlier, I expect a 'Day After Tomorrow' or 'War of the Worlds' level turn out- thus, good.
 
I wouldn't underestimate, transformers or die-hard 4 to be honest.
 

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