Spider-Man: Brand New Day General News and Discussion Thread

[psylockolussus]

Hopefully it’ll be a step up from NWH, but this doesn’t excite me in the least. Especially if this takes place in the Void.

I don't think they'll feature the void again, to the degree of how it was utilized in Deadpool & Wolverine.

If its a Multiverse movie, it could be something similar to the Spider-Verse movies, and we see Spidey visiting different worlds probably moreso than Doctor Strange in the Madness of Multiverse.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I wonder if Tom Holland Spider-Man will go the Sam Raimi Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man universes.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I'm gonna guess this was already posted

'Spider-Man 4' Reportedly Undergoing a Major Overhaul - Murphy's Multiverse

Unbelievably, the tenth anniversary of Marvel Studios and Sony’s agreement to enter into an unprecedented collaboration to produce…

www.murphysmultiverse.com

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm gonna guess this was already posted

'Spider-Man 4' Reportedly Undergoing a Major Overhaul - Murphy's Multiverse

Unbelievably, the tenth anniversary of Marvel Studios and Sony’s agreement to enter into an unprecedented collaboration to produce…

www.murphysmultiverse.com

This man is a Disney bootlicker. Good lord, the spin he is trying to do here

 

[AndrewGilkison]

There are ways to do another multiverse storyline for Spider-Man 4 that isn't just a retread of Spider-Man No Way Home.

 

[Venom 1988]

I don't think they'll feature the void again, to the degree of how it was utilized in Deadpool & Wolverine.

I'm 99% certain the Void is gong to become Battleworld.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I wonder if Tom Holland Spider-Man will go the Sam Raimi Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man universes.

that could be interesting... switch it up

would being cool to see what's going on this those universes since

maybe {Holland's} Peter realizes his spell might have effected their universes and has to go try to fix things there, too

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Basically kills my interest. Can't wait for this Multiverse **** to wrap up. I've had enough.

I was hoping so much for a grounded street level film with Daredevil, Kingpin and maybe the other Netflix heroes making a cameo appearance to kind of reintroduce them into the fold.

I get why they're doing a multiverse story, though. NWH was a box office success.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think they should save Andrew and Tobey for Avengers 5 and 6. And I simply don't think this next Spider-Man movie could top No Way Home, so I prefer if they just feature Tobey/Andrew in Avengers.

This next Spider-Man should feature other supporting cast. If Sony knows what they are doing, they would use this opportunity to bring some of their SSU characters into this, if not all of them. If we got Fox-F4 and Fox-Elektra in the MCU, I don't see Marvel Studios making an exception for SSU, if Sony makes a good deal with them.

 

[Boom]

Spidey and Daredevil vs Kingpin and Scorpion. Not that hard.

 

[BobJM]

Spidey and Daredevil vs Kingpin and Scorpion. Not that hard.

Plus Punisher too though; and bring Kate Bishop out of MCU purgatory.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Here is the thing. You could still have gang war stuff and street level stuff. But what if one of the gangsters like HammerHead or Tombstone gets their hands on TVA tech? Maybe they go to other universes to pull in powerful weapons or henchmen. So in that case its a really crazy escalation of a gang war.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Spidey and Daredevil vs Kingpin and Scorpion. Not that hard.

opposite of hard. easy win. there was just as much hype for Matt Murdock showing up in NwH as the legacy Spider-Men. Sony also put his face on the thumbnail of the first 10 minutes of the movie on Youtube. They gotta know the potential for a street level, duo team up film.

 

[sdgrandia86]

It will be a multiverse AND street level film. It will be Hollands Spider Man with Ben Affleck Daredevil and Dolph Punisher taking on Duncan's Kingpin and The Scorpion, The Vulture and Doc Ock (who just happen to be in actual animal form from the same universe as Loki alligator from season 1).

The Punisher will step on the scorpion who happens to be a nexus being and will send ripples across the multiverse in which Aaron Johnson's Kraven jumps to fight Spider Man causing an incursion between Sony-verse, 616.

Post credit a portal opening with Tobey Spider Man entering the void on top of Dinopool voiced by Ryan Reynolds.

Boom! Everyone is happy. We get team red, Tobey and we get key players into Battleworld.

 

[sdgrandia86]

In all seriousness, as much as I would like to see Tobey and Andrew again I think they should hold back on them and/or (the hopeful on me) give them their proper closesure story instead of rehashing NWH.

As much as I dislike this initiation of Spider Man, I like the set up of Spider Man teaming or interacting taking a more mature tone by teaming with Punisher and Daredevil, introducing him to the symbiote and taking on the Kinping and Scorpion in a gang war. You can still include multiverse elements, as mentioned earlier, with some remnants of tva tech being introduced or just introduce Aaron Kraven and reveal an incursion taking place - that would be a bit close to the end of NWH but you can being Mordo back into the picture talking about he warned Strange about mis-using magic and how the bill always comes due, helping set up Secret Wars.

 

[Venom 1988]

Here is the thing. You could still have gang war stuff and street level stuff. But what if one of the gangsters like HammerHead or Tombstone gets their hands on TVA tech? Maybe they go to other universes to pull in powerful weapons or henchmen. So in that case its a really crazy escalation of a gang war.

Depending on the execution I feel I wouldn't be fully opposed to something like this. Sorta like Intergang. So long as the Multiverse aspect is treated as feature and not the main crux of the movie.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

It will be a multiverse AND street level film. It will be Hollands Spider Man with Ben Affleck Daredevil and Dolph Punisher taking on Duncan's Kingpin and The Scorpion, The Vulture and Doc Ock (who just happen to be in actual animal form from the same universe as Loki alligator from season 1).

The Punisher will step on the scorpion who happens to be a nexus being and will send ripples across the multiverse in which Aaron Johnson's Kraven jumps to fight Spider Man causing an incursion between Sony-verse, 616.

Post credit a portal opening with Tobey Spider Man entering the void on top of Dinopool voiced by Ryan Reynolds.

Boom! Everyone is happy. We get team red, Tobey and we get key players into Battleworld.

I know you are joking but you know that Duncan is dead, right?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Here is the thing. You could still have gang war stuff and street level stuff. But what if one of the gangsters like HammerHead or Tombstone gets their hands on TVA tech? Maybe they go to other universes to pull in powerful weapons or henchmen. So in that case its a really crazy escalation of a gang war.

That sounds like crap and exactly like what I just saw in D&W. So, absolutely no interest in this movie.

I am sort of at the point where like Avengers Doomsday, I am writing this movie off unless we learn later its closer to that Daredevil/Kingpin idea without the multiverse BS taking it over and making it a mess. If it's a bunch of multiverse crap, then I just cannot bring myself to care about it.

 

[Frodo]

The only street level stuff we'll see Spiderman do will likely be at the beginning of Avengers : Doomsday .

Otherwise , I think Spiderman 4 will likely be multiverse variants of Spiderman characters , fighting each other in Battleworld.


It may happen on the streets of dystopic, Battleworld version, of Manhattan, but that's not a street level story.

Marvel is basically giving us a multiverse trilogy with Avengers : Doomsday, Spiderman 4, and Avengers : Secret Wars .


Sony wants it , Marvel wants it , and D&W and NWH box office, in their minds, re-affirms that they're making the right call.

Again, this is what both studios think, not what may be the best creative direction for Spiderman 4.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I still say the concept of an in-betweenquel on Battleworld is not a good one. Going to make for a badly aged product in a few years and just sounds so exhaustingly dull. Make that an animated D+ show like What If. Full movie? Gag me

 

[Spider-Fan]

Wife was watching NWH, so I am watching the end with her. This is a great movie and all I need from the Multiverse and Spider-Man. This at least had an artistic purpose of being a tribute to Spider-Man on film and did so using the Multiverse. These various multiverse scenarios that keep showing up in speculation or in people trying to mind ninja it to work, the art just isn't there. This entire thing is being done cause Marvel was struggling and the nostalgia bait has been what worked, and Sony is desperate to recreate that NWH event. But just like Doomsday, this isn't coming together organically. They're trying to manufacture it. The result isn't going to be great cinema. It's going to be something painfully empty and exhausting to watch. That's my 2 cents. This entire Saga of making this another NWH and forcing the multiverse there again to make fetch happen is just giving me a migraine and turning me against it. The next Spider-Man has quickly went from high on my MCU anticipation list to the absolute basement. Right down there with Doomsday/Secret Wars in the wake of that wonderful casting

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Wife was watching NWH, so I am watching the end with her. This is a great movie and all I need from the Multiverse and Spider-Man. This at least had an artistic purpose of being a tribute to Spider-Man on film and did so using the Multiverse. These various multiverse scenarios that keep showing up in speculation or in people trying to mind ninja it to work, the art just isn't there. This entire thing is being done cause Marvel was struggling and the nostalgia bait has been what worked, and Sony is desperate to recreate that NWH event. But just like Doomsday, this isn't coming together organically. They're trying to manufacture it. The result isn't going to be great cinema. It's going to be something painfully empty and exhausting to watch. That's my 2 cents. This entire Saga of making this another NWH and forcing the multiverse there again to make fetch happen is just giving me a migraine and turning me against it. The next Spider-Man has quickly went from high on my MCU anticipation list to the absolute basement. Right down there with Doomsday/Secret Wars in the wake of that wonderful casting

you are being even more generous than I would be in describing NwH. that movie will always hold a special place in my heart for being the first movie date between me and my now wife, but I don't think the movie is that good. It absolutely excelled in what it set out to do, but when judged entirely on its own merits, it's quite disappointing as a Spider-Man/Spider-Verse movie.

 

[Frodo]

NWH is one of my favorite CBM in general and one of my favorite Spiderman films in general .

I just don't think every Spiderman film should, or has to be, NWH , the same way I don't want every Batman film to be The Dark Knight or The Batman.


NWH ending set up a great story of a kid becoming a man, and learning to stand on his own two feet.

I was really looking forward to seeing this Peter learning to juggle a job, school, while at the same time being his neighborhood's protector.

Smaller scale stakes .

But , it is what it is, and we're in for another Multiverse film instead.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

NWH is one of my favorite CBM in general and one of my favorite Spiderman films in general .

I just don't think every Spiderman film should, or has to be, NWH , the same way I don't want every Batman film to be The Dark Knight or The Batman.


NWH ending set up a great story of a kid becoming a man, and learning to stand on his own two feet.

I was really looking forward to seeing this Peter learning to juggle a job, school, while at the same time being his neighborhood's protector.

Smaller scale stakes .

But , it is what it is, and we're in for another Multiverse film instead.

The problem I see though is that the next multiverse film will probably be the first in a new trilogy. I feel like it would be jarring to go from a high stakes to a lower stakes street level film if we are actually getting that after Spider-Man 4.

And I agree that not every Spider-Man film has to have to keep the same scale and spectacle, if that's what you meant.

 

[Frodo]

The problem I see though is that the next multiverse film will probably be the first in a new trilogy. I feel like it would be jarring to go from a high stakes to a lower stakes street level film if we are actually getting that after Spider-Man 4.

And I agree that not every Spider-Man film has to have to keep the same scale and spectacle, if that's what you meant.

I suspect Spiderman 5, will be lower stakes post SW when the MCU is "reset " .
But again, that's what I suspect.

But , ultimately ,It will depend on how the audience responds to SW , i.e. if they eat it up Box Office wise, or if audiences are done with the Multiverse stuff post SW.
At the end of the day , that's what the studios are going to react to .

So, even though the intention right now, may be , " We'll do a grounded Kingpin / Daredevil Spiderman film post SW .", things happen, and plans change, so there's no guarantee come 2028,
that Marvel and Sony will desire to go that route for Spiderman 5.

I hope they do , but , this is Hollywood.