Spidy's Black Suit Problem

[General_Grievous]

Sorry if this has been already said, but Peter to begin with is not aware that the suit is a living organism.

He just recognises it as being basically the same as his made costume, only in black - as time goes on, he realises that it improves his powers and then slowly poisons his mind.

I like the shots of Tobey so far - he always seems to be wearing blue and black to visually show he is becoming a darker person, and then there's his hair which looks slick, oily, unkempt; another visual tone-in to say that this guy is changing.

I'm sure we'll see a fully-realised symbiote CGI full body take-over, if not with Peter, then with Brock.

So yes, to begin with and in the shots we've seen, I'm just reading it as he believes the symbiote is a suit, and not an alien creature. Why would he question it?

I just want to see how Peter receives the actual suit in the film...and from whom.

 

[Jestah]

From Santa Clause obviously....

Spidey: Hey Saint Nick , I kinda tore my costume in my last battle with Doc Ock , reckon I can have my christmas present early and get some new threads?

Santa: Ho ho , of course ....how do you fancy these in black?

Spidey: Yeaaaaaah bwoy!

....you get the idea :P

 

[hitpehoaos]

i get the idea

 

[Yurka]

on a related note, heath ledger was supposedly just cast as the joker

 

[daveswb]

Well it could be one of three things.

1. That yes, the symbiote doesnt mimic clothing in the movie. Maybe Sam thought that was dumb. He obviously doesn't like web shooters or spidey tracers.

2. Maybe it is the day after he wakes up in the black suite and doesn't realize yet it's power so he's still wearing clothes over it.

3. Maybe that shot is a fake out and won't even be in the movie. That does happen sometimes. They show stuff in the previews that never makes it to the bis screen. Aren't they still techinically filming?

 

[storyteller]

Though i think the suit morphs out and isnt simply a suit. The comics version of spiderman did this. When spiderman got back to earth wearing his new duds he took the suit off and hung it up(because he though it was just some fancy duds). The symbiote being alive an all simply oozed back onto peter and went out fighting crime while pete was asleep. When they got back, it oozed back to wear it was hanging. Peter would either wear the suit all day and use its transformation properties or wear regular clothes and wear his red and blues in the day and switch to black at night(uderstandable). Then he found out it was alive and you know that story. Then black cat made him a black suit in the style of the symbiote suit and he wore that in place of his removed symbiote.

 

[storyteller]

dbl post

 

[lordofthenerds]

I'm saying its either that the sybiote just isn't going to mimic clothing or that the symbiote's ability to mimic clothing wasn't revealed at that part of the movie.

 

[Hack and Slash]

I'm saying its either that the sybiote just isn't going to mimic clothing or that the symbiote's ability to mimic clothing wasn't revealed at that part of the movie.

Actually i think that the characterstics of the black suit will be different from the comics judging by the footage and trailer we saw

 

[LastSunrise1981]

It definitely is a living organism, the teaser trailer definitely provides the proof that it's alive.

 

[wolfsfang]

Well it could be one of three things.

1. That yes, the symbiote doesnt mimic clothing in the movie. Maybe Sam thought that was dumb. He obviously doesn't like web shooters or spidey tracers.

Who cares if he thinks it is dumb? The whole point of the symbiote is that it mimics clothing not that it dyes it.

I would rather the film have no symbiote, then one done by a director who does not appreciate it, and therefor will not do it any justice and / or change the things that the symbiote is famous for (i.e. becoming any item of clothing Peter wants)

 

[Sean Adisano]

Who cares if he thinks it is dumb? The whole point of the symbiote is that it mimics clothing not that it dyes it.

I would rather the film have no symbiote, then one done by a director who does not appreciate it, and therefor will not do it any justice and / or change the things that the symbiote is famous for (i.e. becoming any item of clothing Peter wants)

i share your moral outrage...but i can accept it for what raimi is giving us. i'm not going to let it destroy the movie for me. its not as big a deal as having sandman be the real uncle ben killer...now thats just destroying the first movie with the origin of spidey...thats something to be angry about.

 

[wolfsfang]

i share your moral outrage...but i can accept it for what raimi is giving us. i'm not going to let it destroy the movie for me. its not as big a deal as having sandman be the real uncle ben killer...now thats just destroying the first movie with the origin of spidey...thats something to be angry about.

I have to go with the idea that the symbiote is implanting the idea that the Sandman killed Ben in peter's head, it will slowly replace the face of the real killer with Marko's to make Peter more angry and therefor more susceptible to be taking over

 

[Sean Adisano]

I have to go with the idea that the symbiote is implanting the idea that the Sandman killed Ben in peter's head, it will slowly replace the face of the real killer with Marko's to make Peter more angry and therefor more susceptible to be taking over

thats exactly what i thought and hoping for.

 

[Hack and Slash]

i share your moral outrage...but i can accept it for what raimi is giving us. i'm not going to let it destroy the movie for me. its not as big a deal as having sandman be the real uncle ben killer...now thats just destroying the first movie with the origin of spidey...thats something to be angry about.

I sure hope so or it will certainly destroyed one of the most important plots in spidey 1

 

[Sean Adisano]

i would have liked to see the original comics symbiote in this movie, but were not getting it so all we can do is accept the one we are getting. i for one have no real problem with it...it looks awesome to me. the onle little thing i wish they would have done is have the symbiote attach to peter himself and not his suite, but like i said before, i'm not going to let this destroy the movie for me

 

[CrashNburn]

I Agree With You Sean.

 

[Topdawg]

Here's a screenshot of the teaser:


if you look at the spider on his chest it looks whiter for some reason.
and no i havent photoshopped it.

 

[wolfsfang]

I would have preferred the Venom logo. They could have kept it small like the one we are getting, but I still would have liked this one

that would have been a step in the right direction

 

[storyteller]

Then they would have just put in the all black suit. That symbol doesnt work becazuse it revolves around overlapping lines.

 

[Arcturus]

How can anyone not think the symbiote we've seen is not a living creature, didn't you see the god damn thing oozing over peters arm preparing to overtake him?

 

[Hack and Slash]

I would have preferred the Venom logo. They could have kept it small like the one we are getting, but I still would have liked this one

that would have been a step in the right direction

This will be good symbol on the black suit